High School, College and University Cringe MegaThread
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I'm also in my late 30s (40 this year... -.-!) and I did, but then I was homeschooled.
I expect a large part of why I became a professional tech editor was this kind of thing, it taught grammar and sentence structure in a way that otherwise you wouldn't see and work with them. That said, you don't generally break down a sentence that much EXCEPT in school, when doing actual editing you generally just find the specific parts to and work with them.
Bear Ribs
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Yeah, near as I can tell it vanished somewhere around 25 years ago. People in high school before that tend to have done it and everybody younger has no idea what a sentence diagram is.
Diagramming was a bit of a Sudoku for us in High School, I can recall us doing challenges to each other to diagram more obtuse and complex sentences. Simple sentences were easy but taking apart bits of a politician's speech to see what he really said was hard mode.
Diagramming was a bit of a Sudoku for us in High School, I can recall us doing challenges to each other to diagram more obtuse and complex sentences. Simple sentences were easy but taking apart bits of a politician's speech to see what he really said was hard mode.
Blasterbot
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I can't say I have seen that sentence diagraming thing before but it makes sense. I prolly picked it up reading old books and adopted the generalities of it. If it was talked about in school I likely ignored the lesson as boring since I already knew that stuff. for age I am 31. Educated in a rural public school.
Vyor
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It's a way of essentially drawing a sentence, allowing you to establish the structure and where each word fits regardless of how it's actually worded. Assuming they each communicate the same idea, the diagram for several different sentence structures will look essentially the same.
As sentence structure grows more complex, the diagram for it also grows and some sentences can get pretty wild.
Diagramming is "outdated" today because it encourages critical thinking and forces the student to develop an understanding of how to write with clarity and communicate ideas readily to others, things that the modern education system isn't fond of.
Why We Still Diagram Sentences: A Teacher's View on an "Outdated" Skill
There are some interesting points here!www.boredteachers.com
Both of these examples make me want to shoot someone.
Understanding such fundamentals is essential, but I'm the type of guy that learns especially fast from pre-existing examples; if you tried to explain it to me in a technical manner, like in that diagram, I'd be utterly lost.
However, by reading books and such that have such sentence structures? I'd be writing textbook examples by the end of the day without realizing it.
My brain is just wired in a fucked up way.
I remember when I was young and in primary school that the teacher kept trying to explain clock faces to us; I didn't get it. When I got home, my mother and father made a crude clock with a paper plate and showed me the times hour-by-hour.
I picked it up straight away, heh.
However, by reading books and such that have such sentence structures? I'd be writing textbook examples by the end of the day without realizing it.
My brain is just wired in a fucked up way.
I remember when I was young and in primary school that the teacher kept trying to explain clock faces to us; I didn't get it. When I got home, my mother and father made a crude clock with a paper plate and showed me the times hour-by-hour.
I picked it up straight away, heh.
Buba
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I was astonished to see the title - "Pathetic errand" - be used by a non-tabloid newspaper for the parade in which banners of disbanded "Irish" regiments were taken to their Last Post in the British Army's cathedral. That was 1922 or so.
I was taught that pathetic in English means "so lame that pitiful" etc., and not - as it does in my language (and the original meaning in English was, I guess) - "full of pathos", "lofty".
Sad. The Black, Asian and Latino Student Unions of Lincoln High School in Seattle won't be able to have a segregated potluck.
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Apparently there wasnationwide pushback a few local Conservative talk radio and Reddit posts that intimidated the School into allowing the White people to bring their crackers or whatever it is those oppressors eat to the Potluck after all. I'm sure they will be very welcome.
Seattle high school reverses course after forbidding whites and Jews from attending a school potluck
Earlier this month the principal of Lincoln High School in Seattle sent out a school-wide message advertising events for the school's "multicultural week."
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Apparently there was
Vetrom
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Let us not forget the fine example of "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo said:
It's a wild ride, all the way down.
Bear Ribs
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Not just failure to diagram sentences, New York has figured out how to fix their hideously poor scores on basic math and english: lower the bar so that only getting half the answers right is an A!
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"Yes, there's learning loss between 2019 and 2022, but in some ways we don't want to keep going backwards," Perie said. "We're at this new normal. So for New York we are saying the new baseline is 2022."
“The New Normal”: New York to Lower Math and English Proficiency Standards Due to Poor Test Results
I recently wrote how public educators and unions were methodically killing public education. The best example this week comes from New York where a school board committee has solved the dismal math…
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New York lowers bar for student math, English proficiency
archived 16 Mar 2023 12:13:17 UTC
"Yes, there's learning loss between 2019 and 2022, but in some ways we don't want to keep going backwards," Perie said. "We're at this new normal. So for New York we are saying the new baseline is 2022."
Bear Ribs
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How fortunate, they're not treating it as a warning.
They're treating it as a how-to guide.
sigh. Just sigh. I know Americans are becoming dumber on the whole, generation by generation, but this just takes the cake.
King Arts
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Bear Ribs
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Well, the text was:
Theres nothing more beautiful and powerful than organized workers fighting for justice.
We are writing a new chapter for LA Public Schools.
Yes, you read that correctly, they didn't remember the apostrophe in "There's." Bear in mind this is a group of LA Teachers demanding a 30% raise.
The actual cringe was the dance video they attached to it, showing that their union is about 75% landwhales by number (and much more landwhale by volume) as they jiggled about in an extremely uncoordinated and cringey fashion. Sadly I haven't been able to find a new upload of the video itself though here's one frame that was used as a title.
LA Teachers Union Roasted for Posting Dance Video During Strike
"Teaching students well would be pretty cool."
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Live-stream of the meeting at Chavez High School in Houston, Texas on Fox 26 KRIV-TV Houston.
Live-stream of the meeting at Chavez High School in Houston, Texas on Fox 26 KRIV-TV Houston.