Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

[King Arts]

What on earth do you mean "as a collective"? Are you even aware of how many different types of Jews there are? Despite how little they populate the planet, there are various different types of Jews. Ashkenazi. Sephardi. Mizrahi. Ontological/Spiritual (myself, with a Satanist/left-hand/Witch inclination). Zionists, anti-Zionists (also me) and everyone in between. And you could also be referring to ethnic Jews when you talk about Jews, which is usually what people are referring to. It's hard to define "da Joos" as a collective at all.

When I say America is safer individually, I mean a Jew living in America has less to worry about Jihadis or whatever stabbing him. But collectively it's unlikely but possible America could go the way of Nazi Germany and try to wipe out Jews.

Israel is more dangerous to Jews individually since they live near Jihadis who want to blow them up. BUT the state of Israel is unlikely to want to wipe out the Jews any time soon. I mean when you look at some European nations I guess it's POSSIBLE that some sort of self hating ethnic group gets into power. But I doubt it.

 

[mrttao]

When I say America is safer individually, I mean a Jew living in America has less to worry about Jihadis or whatever stabbing him. But collectively it's unlikely but possible America could go the way of Nazi Germany and try to wipe out Jews.

Israel is more dangerous to Jews individually since they live near Jihadis who want to blow them up. BUT the state of Israel is unlikely to want to wipe out the Jews any time soon. I mean when you look at some European nations I guess it's POSSIBLE that some sort of self hating ethnic group gets into power. But I doubt it.

They could get outbred by muslim citizens though who would open the floodgates on immigration of non jews and then slaughter them.

 

[King Arts]

They could get outbred by muslim citizens though who would open the floodgates on immigration of non jews and then slaughter them.

I mean yes, if they don't look at/pay attention and learn from the mistakes of Western Europe. I don't think the Jews will fall for that. They might true it's possible, I'm not saying it won't happen or it's impossible.

 

[mrttao]

I mean yes, if they don't look at/pay attention and learn from the mistakes of Western Europe. I don't think the Jews will fall for that. They might true it's possible, I'm not saying it won't happen or it's impossible.

The jews in charge of the military literally ordered the troops away from the border on oct 7, as a result of seeing the buildup, to not "antagonize" hamas.

also, the jews that founded israel were already replaced. waves of mass migration. but hey, at least they were "all jews" so it makes it ok, right?

 

[King Arts]

The jews in charge of the military literally ordered the troops away from the border on oct 7, as a result of seeing the buildup, to not "antagonize" hamas.

also, the jews that founded israel were already replaced. waves of mass migration. but hey, at least they were "all jews" so it makes it ok, right?

I could make a pity joke that all mortals would be replaced eventually.

But I’ll be serious. Humans need in groups to function, the Jews who made Israel had a few motives for its creation one was wanting to avoid being in a position like the holocaust ever again. Since many people do group all Jews together and assign the actions of bad Jews to good Jews they decided that the in group for their nation would be being a Jew. If you are a Jew then you would be allowed to come in. It’s partly a necessity because Jews outside of Israel were not a large group so they need more people to come in to have enough people for a country especially since they were outnumbered by the Arabs.

Now the Jews in Israel are large enough where they can diverge from the diaspora and they might in the future. Or they may not as in groups can stay together as long as there is an outgroup to compete with.

 

[mrttao]

I could make a pity joke that all mortals would be replaced eventually.

But I’ll be serious. Humans need in groups to function, the Jews who made Israel had a few motives for its creation one was wanting to avoid being in a position like the holocaust ever again. Since many people do group all Jews together and assign the actions of bad Jews to good Jews they decided that the in group for their nation would be being a Jew. If you are a Jew then you would be allowed to come in. It’s partly a necessity because Jews outside of Israel were not a large group so they need more people to come in to have enough people for a country especially since they were outnumbered by the Arabs.

Now the Jews in Israel are large enough where they can diverge from the diaspora and they might in the future. Or they may not as in groups can stay together as long as there is an outgroup to compete with.

The jews in israel now are the jews that built israel though.
They made the wrong decision when they decided how to identify their ingroup.

Would it be ok if whites were replaced in america by a combination of christian mexicans and christians africans?

Would you dismiss such a replacement as "well they made their choice"?

 

[King Arts]

The jews in israel now are the jews that built israel though.
They made the wrong decision when they decided how to identify their ingroup.

Would it be ok if whites were replaced in america by a combination of christian mexicans and christians africans?

Would you dismiss such a replacement as "well they made their choice"?

That depends on the circumstances. What if Islam was on the rise and actually overtook us, and we needed every ounce of strength we can muster? In that case the in group would be Christians vs Muslims, or atheist communists, or satanists or whatever.

Note if all non Christians dropped dead the white christians, and black african christians and so on would be at each others throats soon enough.

Just like if every non Jew dropped dead the Jews would then fight amongst themselves the more right leading and the religious, and the Haredi, the super secular, the flat out commies. Those would be battle lines.

 

[mrttao]

That depends on the circumstances.

And this cuck mentality is why the cuck-asians are going extinct.
No ingroup preference.
Happy to get replaced and genocided.

 

[King Arts]

And this cuck mentality is why the cuck-asians are going extinct.
No ingroup preference.
Happy to get replaced and genocided.

What are you talking about?

I literally said you need an in group to function. But it's a balancing act, if you open it too wide so there is nothing uniting people then like modern Europe your society will become trash. If you make it too small then you will be outcompeted by larger bigger nations.

Nations should be thought of as similiar to predators/single celled life forms. If your nation is bigger all things being equal that leads to more strength. You have to be able to fight off those that are competing for your resources, and being able to swallow up smaller nations/animals you gain their strength if you can get the former populace to accept your rule and become your people then you will get more resorces, land, and people. Russia is doing this with Ukraine, Rome did this.
You have to strike a balance though because opening the gates wide means people won't be loyal and won't see your nation as their in group. But if there is a dangerous outgroup like Islam or communists or anything then that can help smooth over that and make those people into yours.

 

[mrttao]

What are you talking about?

I literally said you need an in group to function. But it's a balancing act, if you open it too wide so there is nothing uniting people then like modern Europe your society will become trash. If you make it too small then you will be outcompeted by larger bigger nations.

Nations should be thought of as similiar to predators/single celled life forms. If your nation is bigger all things being equal that leads to more strength. You have to be able to fight off those that are competing for your resources, and being able to swallow up smaller nations/animals you gain their strength if you can get the former populace to accept your rule and become your people then you will get more resorces, land, and people. Russia is doing this with Ukraine, Rome did this.
You have to strike a balance though because opening the gates wide means people won't be loyal and won't see your nation as their in group. But if there is a dangerous outgroup like Islam or communists or anything then that can help smooth over that and make those people into yours.

You literally say there are scenarios where you would be ok with being replaced in your nation by foriegners. because they share your religion.

You can ally against islam without applying replacement genocide to your own race.
There is no scenario where you should ever ok such replacement.
Unless you are a cuck.

And you live in utter fantasy if you think the people replacing you view you as the same kind of essential Ally against Islam.

 

[King Arts]

You literally say there are scenarios where you would be ok with being replaced in your nation by foriegners. because they share your religion.

You can ally against islam without applying replacement genocide to your own race.
There is no scenario where you should ever ok such replacement.
Unless you are a cuck.

And you live in utter fantasy if you think the people replacing you view you as the same kind of essential Ally against Islam.

But you wouldn't be getting replaced. Again it depends on your in group.

Because if you take it a certain way we can look at America. When people said it was a "white" nation that's kinda concealing the truth it was not made for Caucasians it was made by colonists of Anglo descent for the most part, with a few scattering of Scots Irish, some Germans and French. The vast majority were of British descent like 80 percent. Ben Franklin even thought that Norse and Germans were not white and that white only referred to Britons and one certain group of Germans. Yet now the majority of whites are no longer British descended in fact I think most whites now adays are more German descended than anything else. Most of them in the Mid West. But now Irish are the whites that are in Boston, in New York lots of whites are Italian,etc.

I mean when you look at that do you think the original Americans were replaced?


History of immigration to the United States - Wikipedia

 

[GoldRanger]

Complete nonsense on myriad counts.
It isn't that people are choosing to be unarmed. But are forced to by law.

You can only request a pistol license and nothing else.
You need to prove you are at risk to even be allowed to own a gun. Most don't qualify.
You are limited to only storing 50 bullets at home. and can't use them to train in a firing range.
You need a seperate even more stringent license to actually carry that already licensed gun out of your house.
You need regular tests of physique and mental state by licensed psychiatrists

It is a long, costly, and ardeous process.
And the notion that anyone who served in the military (aka everyone. due to mandatory universal conscription) is utter nonsense too.

Nor can people just take their service weapons home.
Oct 7th proved this conclusively. as entire communities were unarmed.
heck they even had on unarmed on duty soldiers

meanwhile there are about half a million illegal guns in the muslim-arab community in israel.

It's worse.

Some communities were armed, but the military decided to collect all long arms a few years prior, leaving them armed only with pistols.

Even worse, on the day of Oct. 7 some of the volunteers in the quick reaction groups couldn't access their pistols. Why? Because the law mandated they'll be stored in a central armory, and they couldn't access the safe on the day of the attack. Why? Because the safe lock was electric and the power was out because of the attack. I'm dead serious, I'll provide an article below as evidence.

Here's an article about collecting the guns from 2021:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-s...security-squads-operate-unarmed-for-past-year

The writing was on the wall.

And here's an article about the locked weapons safe: Nahal Oz civilian emergency response team left with no guns on Oct. 7

And it's not like this was unforseen, the village mayors have screamed at the IDF and the government for years that these policies are leaving them vulnerable, but nobody wanted to listen. Because of complacency, and political convenience.

 

[mrttao]

Because of complacency, and political convenience.

I think it is more that the govt hates some people.
Villagers are viewed by the central govt the same way democrats view farm folk. As conservative hicks that they wish will just die.

 

[King Arts]

What kind of fucked up nonsense is that? If I was the leader of Israel, I'd make sure that the people on the frontier had actual weapons. The only reason I would not allow that is if they were part of a group that is not friendly to my government.

Isn't Bibbi part of the center right? They don't have a problem with most settlers so what is up with that?
Did he have to make a compromise with libshits or something?

 

[RenegadeInterrupt]

What kind of fucked up nonsense is that? If I was the leader of Israel, I'd make sure that the people on the frontier had actual weapons. The only reason I would not allow that is if they were part of a group that is not friendly to my government.

Isn't Bibbi part of the center right? They don't have a problem with most settlers so what is up with that?
Did he have to make a compromise with libshits or something?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

 

[King Arts]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

No I understand why Bibbi would help Hamas. He is a politician that is elected. So he has to play both sides, if he was a king then he would not have to do this bullshit double dealing. But Hamas actually helped him, because before Oct 7th he was facing charges, now since Israel is in the middle of a war he gets to stay in office. It makes sense for him to allow the attack to happen, while if he was a King he could just jail the judges who accuse him of coruption.

But still even if the villages wee armed the attack would happen. It would not be AS effective but it would still happen and he could still use it. So why stop private ownership?

 

[RenegadeInterrupt]

No I understand why Bibbi would help Hamas. He is a politician that is elected. So he has to play both sides, if he was a king then he would not have to do this bullshit double dealing. But Hamas actually helped him, because before Oct 7th he was facing charges, now since Israel is in the middle of a war he gets to stay in office. It makes sense for him to allow the attack to happen, while if he was a King he could just jail the judges who accuse him of coruption.

But still even if the villages wee armed the attack would happen. It would not be AS effective but it would still happen and he could still use it. So why stop private ownership?

I know, I was just adding onto what you originally posted

 

[GoldRanger]

What kind of fucked up nonsense is that? If I was the leader of Israel, I'd make sure that the people on the frontier had actual weapons. The only reason I would not allow that is if they were part of a group that is not friendly to my government.

Isn't Bibbi part of the center right? They don't have a problem with most settlers so what is up with that?
Did he have to make a compromise with libshits or something?

They're not "settlers", the Oct 7 attacks were carried out within internationally recognized Israeli borders.

 

[ATP]

They're not "settlers", the Oct 7 attacks were carried out within internationally recognized Israeli borders.

So? why Bibi do not let jews keep weapons? except cryminals stealing palestinian lands in WB,who do not need them,becouse there is no Hamas there.

 

[mrttao]

So? why Bibi do not let jews keep weapons? except cryminals stealing palestinian lands in WB,who do not need them,becouse there is no Hamas there.

Haven't you heard that "guns bad" and "guns kill people"?
Think of the strictest gun control blue state.
they are still more permissive about private gun ownership than israel.

As for Bibi. people don't realize how americanized he is.
age 0-5 = born in israel
age 5-7 = lived in USA
age 7-12 = israel
age 12-18 = USA (highschool)
age 18-23 = israel. (mandatory military service)
age 23-31 = USA (college & work. started getting into politics). although he did come back to israel for a short war before going to usa.

He went to MIT and worked at boston. two deep blue states.

Just because a govt is called "conservative" does not mean it aligns with american conservative values.

edit: to be fair, they are starting to loosen gun control after oct 7th hamas attack.
and already people are crying over the "horrible cost" of the occasional gun murder. Even though illegal guns were already a thing before.