Culture Gina Carano Cancelled by Lucasfilm, Goes Rebel

[Husky_Khan]

Bill Burr, very guardedly, made some commentary on the Gina Carano situation.



What isn't shown is that at the end of the video he apparently also stated: "I'm on the show, so now I have to watch what I say or I'll get fired."

Which IMHO is pretty impressive to think someone like Bill Burr would censor himself. Then again, even with how big and popular and seemingly unapologetic Bill Burr is as a comedian, he can totally get cancelled like Louis CK was so maybe he has some reason to not express his true feelings on the matter and just tiptoe around the obvious issue.

Up to this point the only other person involved in the show who even commented on this situation was Carl Weathers back on February 20th with a single Tweet which was indicated as at least being somewhat supportive of Gina Carano.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Disney CEO Bob Chapek finally was heard addressing the Gina Carano situation at an Investors call.

David from Alexandria, Virginia asked, “It’s clear that there is a new blacklist punishing conservatives in the entertainment industry. Disney+ actors Pedro Pascal and Gina Carano tweeted similar analogies of current political events to Nazi Germany. Yet, only Carano, who is considered a conservative, was fired from The Mandalorian. Regarding Disney and a blacklist, this is the way?”

Chapek, whose tone of voice notably changes in response to the question, says, “I don’t really see Disney as characterizing itself as left leaning or right leaning. Yet, instead standing for values. Values that are universal. Values of respect. Values of decency. Values of integrity. And values of inclusion.

He continued, “And we seek to have not only how we operate, but the content that we make reflective of the rich diversity of the world we live. And I think that’s a world we all should live in, in harmony and peace.”

“I also say that I think the fact that we have a tremendous opportunity, now, going forward, to bring this country back together. And unite people under a common vision of Disney magic and what’s good with this world.”

The most vapid political non-answer ever.

Disney CEO Bob Chapek Confirms Star Wars Is Dead And Provides Revolting Answer To Question About Gina Carano

Disney CEO Bob Chapek recently gave an update on The Walt Disney Company during the company's 2021 Annual Meeting of Shareholders.

boundingintocomics.com

 

[GoldRanger]

Disney CEO Bob Chapel finally was heard addressing the Gina Carano situation at an Investors call.



The most vapid political non-answer ever.

Disney CEO Bob Chapek Confirms Star Wars Is Dead And Provides Revolting Answer To Question About Gina Carano

Disney CEO Bob Chapek recently gave an update on The Walt Disney Company during the company's 2021 Annual Meeting of Shareholders.

boundingintocomics.com

Yes, unite the country together by blatantly discriminating against one political side. Sure. "Unity". Nobody on the right is buying this. Biden, Disney and the others are just as divisive as they ever were, while paying lip service to the idea of "inclusion".

 

[f1onagher]

I know Disney is functionally ever-present in the business and cultural world, but he can't think this won't at least tarnish his bottom line? Pedro made this argument easy by being just as much of social media dick as Gina (if not more, I don't follow Twitter enough to know about their usual posting habits) so its very obvious that there's a double standard.

Also what blackmail does Kennedy have on the Disney board? Even if all the stuff she's accused of was false the furor around her is typically enough to promote someone somewhere quiet and out of the way.

 

[Zachowon]

I know Disney is functionally ever-present in the business and cultural world, but he can't think this won't at least tarnish his bottom line? Pedro made this argument easy by being just as much of social media dick as Gina (if not more, I don't follow Twitter enough to know about their usual posting habits) so its very obvious that there's a double standard.

Also what blackmail does Kennedy have on the Disney board? Even if all the stuff she's accused of was false the furor around her is typically enough to promote someone somewhere quiet and out of the way.

They fear cancel culture ti happen to them or me too

 

[BlackDragon98]

They fear cancel culture ti happen to them or me too

The greater their virtue signal, the more skeletons they have in their closet.

 

[Husky_Khan]

They even discontinued the Cara Dune Funko Pops, the barbarians.

Star Wars: Cara Dune Funko Discontinued Following Gina Carano Firing

An email sent to an Entertainment Earth customer has revealed the Cara Dune Funko Pop Vinyl figure - based on her look in The Mandalorian - has been discontinued.

thedirect.com

Because you know, it's not like anyone ever buys toys for a character more then a few months after a major media release.

 

[gral]

Because you know, it's not like anyone ever buys toys for a character more then a few months after a major media release.

Given what happened to the TLJ toy line, they may think that's true...

 

[Bear Ribs]

If her toys continued to be made and sold well it would put a lot of political pressure on the people who fired her and make it clear it was a mistake. There's even a decent chance internal politics would force the re-hiring of Gina due to obvious demand vis a vis toy sales, But if there are no Cara Dune Toys sold, it will be more difficult to prove that the firing is a mistake because no merch numbers to point at. Remember that this isn't about what's good for the company necessarily, it's what's good for the Executive trying to wrestle more control over the company.

For the record:

Cara Dune Black Series:
Ranked #52,011 in Toys and Games

Rey Black Series:
Ranked #388,720 in Toys and Games

Cara Dune Vintage Series:
Ranked #20,368 in Toys and Games

Rey Vintage Series:
Ranked #261,667 in Toys and Games

This is after Cara Dune quit being sold so needless to say she's losing rank by the hour since it can't be sold and this ranking is based on sales. That says a bit about what the demand for her was. And for good measure...

Ahsoka Black Series
Ranked #5,339 in Toys & Games

 

[Typhonis]

Wow, Forbes is calling Disney on what they did.

Disney’s Firing Of Gina Carano Is Confusing And Hypocritical – Lacking Sound Management

Disney’s approach to cancel culture is woefully flawed, reflecting a crises management approach that does not provide clear guidance on when to act and why. Here's what Disney, and all organizations, should do.

www.forbes.com

 

[Husky_Khan]

Wow, Forbes is calling Disney on what they did.

Disney’s Firing Of Gina Carano Is Confusing And Hypocritical – Lacking Sound Management

Disney’s approach to cancel culture is woefully flawed, reflecting a crises management approach that does not provide clear guidance on when to act and why. Here's what Disney, and all organizations, should do.

www.forbes.com

Yeah I just saw that. It's about time someone in the mainstream actually gives it an honest, sane take.

Case in point from the article itself:

A new poll conducted by Public Opinion Strategies found that 58% of people opposed Carano being fired, but that jumped to a whopping 72% when they saw the post that she was fired for, leaving only 28% who felt Disney was justified. It makes Disney appear to be exaggerating when it later said that her social media posts were “abhorrent and unacceptable” in how they “denigrated people based on their cultural and religious identities.”

 

[Doomsought]

And that is when written by an author who still thinks anything wrong was done at all.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Just to show how petty Disney is in doubling down the utter cancellation of Gina Carano, she has also been removed from her upcoming appearance (which has apparently already been filmed) in Running Wild with Bear Grylls, a celebrity focused spinoff of Bear Grylls popular 'survival' themed television show Man vs. Wild which was going to air its next season this year. Gina Carano's episode was apparently removed from the upcoming episode lineup that was to be broadcast on the National Geographic channel.

Of course the National Geographic Channel is split owned by both Disney and the National Geographic Society (73% to 27%) so it's likely Disney decided to go out of their way to get her episode axed from the lineup which is pretty consistent with how the company has continued to purge Gina Carano and everything associated with her from their precious franchise.

Report: Disney Shelves Gina Carano Guest Appearance On Bear Grylls NatGeo Show | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

 

[Captain X]

I'm sure she still got paid for it.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Former North Dakota Attorney General and US Senator states Gina Carano is a Nazi... Then clarifies that What she meant was that she 'hangs out with White Supremicists' on Bill Mahers show.

Gina Carano Responds To Former Senator Heidi Heitkamp Calling Her A ‘Nazi’ On ‘Real Time With Bill Maher’

Gina Carano responded to former Dakota Democrat Sen. Heidi Heitkamp who labeled her a "nazi" and more during "Real Time with Bill Maher."

dailycaller.com

 

[Clanner Moment]

Libs be like "This popular actress is a nazi who rolls with White supremacists" and then be like "why mayo ghouls in the dakotas and montana no vote dem?"

And this woman is described by wikipedia as a "moderate democrat". 😂

 

[S'task]

Former North Dakota Attorney General and US Senator states Gina Carano is a Nazi... Then clarifies that What she meant was that she 'hangs out with White Supremicists' on Bill Mahers show.

Gina Carano Responds To Former Senator Heidi Heitkamp Calling Her A ‘Nazi’ On ‘Real Time With Bill Maher’

Gina Carano responded to former Dakota Democrat Sen. Heidi Heitkamp who labeled her a "nazi" and more during "Real Time with Bill Maher."

dailycaller.com

. . . I'm starting to think Trump and others are right, we really need to fix our slander and libel laws. This is textbook slander, yet I'd bet due to the "actual malice" requirement that the courts created out of thin air, Carano wouldn't have a chance in court to win a slander case...

 

[Captain X]

I am really disappointed in her. She had an excellent record of standing up for individual rights when she was Senator, which put her at odds with her own party when it came to gun control. I guess party won out in the end.

 

[Skallagrim]

I am really disappointed in her. She had an excellent record of standing up for individual rights when she was Senator, which put her at odds with her own party when it came to gun control. I guess party won out in the end.

Twenty-five years ago, if you asked a person in America for their opion on two out of ten common politically contentious issues, it only had about a 60% chance of allowing you to correctly predict their views on the other eight.

Today, it's in excess of 90% predictive.

The reason's really simple. People are tribal, and the external 'other' has fallen. The Cold War is no more. So now we seek the 'other' a bit closer to home. Political factionalism has gone through the roof. You disagree with 20% of what the party thinks? You're a traitor, then. So conformity wins out. If you don't walk the party line, you're a pariah.

Cancel culture means "exile from the tribe". Take a look at tribal peoples, and their names for themselves. Nearly always, it means "the people". Outsiders are usually called "the strangers", "the others" et cetera. Implication: we are real human beings, everyone else is not. Radical tribalism always means dehumanisation of outsiders. Dissenters are traitors and get kicked out. Which means they cease to be human. And standing up for the exiled means you'll get exiled yourself. Meaning you, too, get dehumanised.

This means that internal loyalty becomes fanatically enforced to a ludicrous degree, while all outsiders are dehumanised to a matching degree... and hated with matching fanaticism. At that point, the "us-vesus-them" dichotomy changes from pro-"us" partisanship to an active desire to exterminate "them".

Ironically, Gina Carano ultimately got cancelled for explicitly pointing out precisely that.

Granted, she suggested that the current situation is comparable to the ultimate consequence of such a process (an attempt to wipe out the demonised "other") which isn't the case. But she's on the money about the real risk of radical tribalism within society. To put it in a non-Godwinned context: the last time the USA saw such dramatic and sustained polarisation as we see over the past thirty years... well, that happened to be in the decades preceding the Civil War.

 

[Zyobot]

Twenty-five years ago, if you asked a person in America for their opion on two out of ten common politically contentious issues, it only had about a 60% chance of allowing you to correctly predict their views on the other eight.

Today, it's in excess of 90% predictive.

The reason's really simple. People are tribal, and the external 'other' has fallen. The Cold War is no more. So now we seek the 'other' a bit closer to home. Political factionalism has gone through the roof. You disagree with 20% of what the party thinks? You're a traitor, then. So conformity wins out. If you don't walk the party line, you're a pariah.

Cancel culture means "exile from the tribe". Take a look at tribal peoples, and their names for themselves. Nearly always, it means "the people". Outsiders are usually called "the strangers", "the others" et cetera. Implication: we are real human beings, everyone else is not. Radical tribalism always means dehumanisation of outsiders. Dissenters are traitors and get kicked out. Which means they cease to be human. And standing up for the exiled means you'll get exiled yourself. Meaning you, too, get dehumanised.

This means that internal loyalty becomes fanatically enforced to a ludicrous degree, while all outsiders are dehumanised to a matching degree... and hated with matching fanaticism. At that point, the "us-vesus-them" dichotomy changes from pro-"us" partisanship to an active desire to exterminate "them".

Ironically, Gina Carano ultimately got cancelled for explicitly pointing out precisely that.

Granted, she suggested that the current situation is comparable to the ultimate consequence of such a process (an attempt to wipe out the demonised "other") which isn't the case. But she's on the money about the real risk of radical tribalism within society. To put it in a non-Godwinned context: the last time the USA saw such dramatic and sustained polarisation as we see over the past thirty years... well, that happened to be in the decades preceding the Civil War.

Yeah, I'm starting to think Clown World's on track to become far less funny, if shit like this continues unabated. I'd ask where you think we'll go from here, but that seems inappropriate to discuss at length in this thread. We've talked about it plenty in other places, but still.

In any case, I think it's clear to us both that things will get heated in the next few decades, with the exact form and timetable remaining up for debate.