United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

LordsFire

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If where you are is a deciding factor as to whether or not you can trust the police, then the safest measure you can take is to simply not trust the police.

Even if some precincts may be more trustworthy, the overall nationwide result of how police act, is that the left gets free passes, and the right gets the book thrown at them.

This goes beyond police to include pretty much the entire law enforcement and justice system. While the lefties on the street night fight it, this is just another institution that's been taken over from the inside by leftists. Just like the education system, the media, a good portion of corporate America, big tech, etc.

Some different locales may vary, but the overall result is that the system gives an advantage to the left. All the while they shout about being oppressed and get more and more people and policy into place to solidify their power even further.

The right in this country is essentially dead. All the GOP does is talk a big game until they're in power, and then they don't do shit. This is why they're called controlled opposition. Even if they're the ones doing the controlling. They're just establishment. They talk big and do nothing. That's what they give us as "opposition."

This attitude you are demonstrating?

That gets you things like this:
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So now what happens when no honest person of good judgement is willing to work in the police force, because people refuse to have their back?

Police departments only being staffed by the untrustworthy and fools becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy is what happens.
 

Wargamer08

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This attitude you are demonstrating?

That gets you things like this:
EzTpi9xVIAohoqz


So now what happens when no honest person of good judgement is willing to work in the police force, because people refuse to have their back?

Police departments only being staffed by the untrustworthy and fools becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy is what happens.
The entire western world is going to have to take a good hard look at police soon and decide what needs to change. Part of the trouble stems from city prosecutors more interested in optics then stopping crime. Part of the trouble comes from police letting the city or state use them to enforce rediculous edicts on ordinary citizens. Like a lot of things right now, policing is in a very unstable place and something to going to give soon.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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The entire western world is going to have to take a good hard look at police soon and decide what needs to change. Part of the trouble stems from city prosecutors more interested in optics then stopping crime. Part of the trouble comes from police letting the city or state use them to enforce rediculous edicts on ordinary citizens. Like a lot of things right now, policing is in a very unstable place and something to going to give soon.
Another problem is that the cops, at least in the european nations, looove hiring the minorities that illegally immigrate into the nations. I'm sure you can put together why using the immigrants to police the immigrants is a bad idea. Just look at Britain and its rape-gangs.
 

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Cherico

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The entire western world is going to have to take a good hard look at police soon and decide what needs to change. Part of the trouble stems from city prosecutors more interested in optics then stopping crime. Part of the trouble comes from police letting the city or state use them to enforce rediculous edicts on ordinary citizens. Like a lot of things right now, policing is in a very unstable place and something to going to give soon.


the solution is to have fewer laws but ones pretty much every one agrees on.

the more byzantine the legal system the more bullshit and intrusive the laws the worse lawenforcement will be seen. Really its our political class thats at the heart of this particular fuck up.
 

Battlegrinder

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That's nice, demand police to protest you from the rampaging mob, so you can declare to rampaging mob that they should confront police more.

Per the article it's apparently just an escort within DC to the airport and back, not on the ground in Minneapolis.

I do wonder how law enforcement hasn't let at least one significant political figure encouraging mob violence be attacked by said mobs at least once over the course of last couple years

1. The people encouraging/supporting the mobs don't actually go near them, and vice versa. Want to see a bunch of riots end really fast? Have one them get near a affluent neighborhood instead of burning down a bunch of poor people's homes. That gets them squashed real fast.
2. The police don't get to say no when thier chain of command says to do something, for good reason.
 

Captain X

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2. The police don't get to say no when thier chain of command says to do something, for good reason.
This line of reasoning didn't work at Nuremburg, for good reason. They are only bound to obey lawful orders. They are duty-bound to disobey unlawful orders. They swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and they should be bound by that.
 

Battlegrinder

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This line of reasoning didn't work at Nuremburg, for good reason. They are only bound to obey lawful orders. They are duty-bound to disobey unlawful orders. They swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and they should be bound by that.

Well yes, but "go keep an eye on this person and make sure no one beats them up" is a lawful order.
 

DarthOne

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They are duty-bound to disobey unlawful orders. They swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and they should be bound by that.
Pfffhahahahaha!

Oh man that’s a good one. First off, most people are easily lead and will do what they are told.

Second, you think the average cop, especially in the cities gives a damn about the Constitution, especially when the political class and educational system have been wiping their behinds with it for decades? They care more about keeping their jobs then you and me.
 
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DocSolarisReich

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This line of reasoning didn't work at Nuremburg, for good reason. They are only bound to obey lawful orders. They are duty-bound to disobey unlawful orders. They swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and they should be bound by that.

See this is the problem with the farce of Nurenburg, it destroys centuries of legal tradition in the name of liberalism.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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See this is the problem with the farce of Nurenburg, it destroys centuries of legal tradition in the name of liberalism.

Nuremberg is rendered even more ridiculous by the fact that the equally absurd Tokyo trials ended with one of its Judges declaring the whole concept of following orders to be the ultimate defense. 492472391247593473.png

If the allies wanted to make a point they should have just killed them all and went "Thus unto the artificers of genocide" but as you note, instead they opened a door that's fucked everyone.

Speaking of precedent.

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Pfffhahahahaha!

Oh man that’s a good one. First off, most people are easily lead and will do what they are told.

Second, you think the average cop, especially in the cities gives a damn about the Constitution, especially when the political class and educational system have been wiping their behinds with it for decades? They care more about keeping their jobs then you and me.

I'm not sure why anyone would think Low IQ, Union attack dogs would do anything but serve the political bosses that pay them.
 

BlackDragon98

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Nuremberg is rendered even more ridiculous by the fact that the equally absurd Tokyo trials ended with one of its Judges declaring the whole concept of following orders to be the ultimate defense. View attachment 636

If the allies wanted to make a point they should have just killed them all and went "Thus unto the artificers of genocide" but as you note, instead they opened a door that's fucked everyone.

Speaking of precedent.

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I'm not sure why anyone would think Low IQ, Union attack dogs would do anything but serve the political bosses that pay them.
Tokyo trials were sham trials.

Sick bastards of Unit 731 were granted full immunity because the US wanted their research.

Other lesser criminals were released, all to gain the favor of a nation that the US thought would be strategic in the coming war against the USSR, despite many of the victims being US soldiers, sailors and airmen, tortured to death in vile and grotesque ways.

But then again, it's coming from the nation who tested deadly bio/chem weapons on it's own soldiers and then denied responsibility and recompensation for decades, so that's no surprise in the end.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Tokyo trials were sham trials.

Sick bastards of Unit 731 were granted full immunity because the US wanted their research.

Other lesser criminals were released, all to gain the favor of a nation that the US thought would be strategic in the coming war against the USSR, despite many of the victims being US soldiers, sailors and airmen, tortured to death in vile and grotesque ways.

But then again, it's coming from the nation who tested deadly bio/chem weapons on it's own soldiers and then denied responsibility and recompensation for decades, so that's no surprise in the end.

Don't forget Justice Pal a Gandhi approved "leader of Hindu law" considering Chinese people to be legally monkeys and thus "In good conscience I couldn't vote to condemn any of those heroes". Which is something he said in an interview later on zaru.png


You can either have a Nuremberg, or a Tokyo

You cannot have both and not set the stage for the mother of all clusterfucks down the line.
 

Zachowon

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I mean I am surprised the 16 year old or was it 13 uear old that got shot wasn't brought up
 

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