United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

[gral]

It's... complicated. It was "ok"(-ish) to "take", but to "give" very much not so.

Yup. Whenever people point to how homosexualism was accepted in Rome and Greece, they somehow fail to point out a self-respecting adult Roman or Greek citizen would never allow himself to be the passive member of the relationship - this was the role of boys and slaves.

 

[Doomsought]

It's... complicated. It was "ok"(-ish) to "take", but to "give" very much not so.

The Hellenistic world basically believed that rape was the sorting algorithm of manliness.

 

[MelancholicMechanicus]

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Minneapolis in June: ABOLISH THE POLICE! END THIS SYSTEMIC EVIL!

https://archive.is/ovELs

Minneapolis in September: WTF what's going on why so much crime and shit police help!

You can't make this shit up.

 

[Duke Nukem]

https://archive.is/4pXP7

Minneapolis in June: ABOLISH THE POLICE! END THIS SYSTEMIC EVIL!

https://archive.is/ovELs

Minneapolis in September: WTF what's going on why so much crime and shit police help!

You can't make this shit up.

Lol i predicted this shit would happen back when these riots started.

 

[ShieldWife]

On KF, there is screenshots of leftists saying that white people invented homophobia cause it brought about success and imposed it on all the poor minorities.

So yes, leftists blame literally everything on White people and want you dead.

Of course this is complete nonsense. The Roman Empire, the epitome of conquest was very gay. Entire lines of Emperor's kept wanting to fuck or fucked femboys.

And even if this is true, why is homophobia bad if it leads to success?

The left has a gigantic double standard for race on all of the social issues. Look at Middle Eastern nations, where they persecute gays and are far from being feminists. Not a peep from the great majority of leftists. In fact, leftists in France and Sweden actually do think that French or Swedish girls were asking to be raped because they aren't covering their faces around Muslim guys. The only time I've ever heard anybody say that a girl deserved to be raped for dressing like a slut is when a leftist is talking about Muslims raping non-Muslim girls.

 

[ShieldWife]

Homosexuality has existed all over the world and at various times and places, has been persecuted or tolerated to varying degrees. Though I can't think of any traditional society that has had the position on homosexuality that the modern left has - namely that it is the same as a heterosexual relationship, that gay and straight marriage are functionally the same, that a relationship between people of the same sex works more or less the same as a relationship between people of the opposite sex. The idea of being exclusively homosexual was historically unusual too. In Greece or Rome, where a man could get away with having sex with another man without too much stigma, it would have been an oddity for a man to say that he would only have sex with men and to completely reject marriage or sex with a woman.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Of course this is complete nonsense. The Roman Empire, the epitome of conquest was very gay. Entire lines of Emperor's kept wanting to fuck or fucked femboys.

They are rewriting history anyway so that the roman empire was founded, built, and maintained by africans. We wuz kangz n shieeeet!

 

[Rocinante]

If a couple of dudes wanna bump uglies, I couldn't give less of a fuck.

If people in love want to get married, I don't give a fuck what their genders are.

It doesn't hurt anyone.

Part of the reason I was a democrat before was because of the right's opposition to gay marriage. That fight is over. They won. That's a good thing. I'm glad they won that fight.

I am honestly laughing at people who are still against gay marriage. Get the fuck over it. (Not sure if that's anyone here, so not calling out anyoje specifically)

We have more important things to worry about than where other dudes put their dicks.

Putting a stop to the acceptance of pedophilia is one of those more important things.

And before anyone gives me the slippery slope argument: it might be a slippery slope that lead to this, but that doesn't make me against gay marriage and gays being accepted, and that doesn't mean we can't make a stand NOW.
Now that things are getting pushed in that direction.

 

[Deleted member 88]

Have you considered for a second that some 'white' people may not actually care about preserving 'whiteness', and do not care what color their child's skin turns out to be?

Have you considered some 'white' people actually want their kids to have darker skin, simply to reduce skin cancer risk from sun exposure?

Have you considered that human's evolved in Africa, and normal human skin color ISN'T 'white'?

Have you considered some 'white' people actually already have family with a different skin color, and find pol/ type rhetoric to be prettied up white supremacist/miscegenation arguments?

Some of us care more about preserving our nation and species more than something as stupid as skin color.

You may not care about race but race cares about you.

Bacle, when it comes down to brass tacks the people that hate Whites won’t care about your open mindedness. You will be forced to debase yourself for your skin color, or die. (Well the latter anyway).

The people who make a big deal about “whiteness” want all Whites dead everywhere.

This has been confirmed again and again in the last four months alone. Why do you not see this?

 

[ShieldWife]

If a couple of dudes wanna bump uglies, I couldn't give less of a fuck.

If people in love want to get married, I don't give a fuck what their genders are.

It doesn't hurt anyone.

Part of the reason I was a democrat before was because of the right's opposition to gay marriage. That fight is over. They won. That's a good thing. I'm glad they won that fight.

I am honestly laughing at people who are still against gay marriage. Get the fuck over it. (Not sure if that's anyone here, so not calling out anyoje specifically)

We have more important things to worry about than where other dudes put their dicks.

Putting a stop to the acceptance of pedophilia is one of those more important things.

And before anyone gives me the slippery slope argument: it might be a slippery slope that lead to this, but that doesn't make me against gay marriage and gays being accepted, and that doesn't mean we can't make a stand NOW.
Now that things are getting pushed in that direction.

I'm not saying that I'm against gay marriage. I was just making an observation about the history and acceptance of homosexuality. Personally, I'm fine with gay marriage, though from a Constitutional perspective, it should be a state issue and people should not be forced to participate (prepare food, photograph, provide venue, perform the service) if they don't want to. My policy is that, with a few rare exceptions, people should be left alone.

 

[Arch Dornan]

You may not care about race but race cares about you.

Bacle, when it comes down to brass tacks the people that hate Whites won’t care about your open mindedness. You will be forced to debase yourself for your skin color, or die. (Well the latter anyway).

The people who make a big deal about “whiteness” want all Whites dead everywhere.

This has been confirmed again and again in the last four months alone. Why do you not see this?

Lol.

 

[Rocinante]

I'm not saying that I'm against gay marriage. I was just making an observation about the history and acceptance of homosexuality. Personally, I'm fine with gay marriage, though from a Constitutional perspective, it should be a state issue and people should not be forced to participate (prepare food, photograph, provide venue, perform the service) if they don't want to. My policy is that, with a few rare exceptions, people should be left alone.

I'm with you on that. Sort of.

I used to be on the other side of the cake argument, but I thought about it, and I am torn on it these days.

It doesn't seem right to force a person or company to make something that goes against their beliefs....but turning away a customer from a regular business just because they're gay is pretty clearly discrimination.

If they refused to make cakes for blacks, I'd be pretty against that. So why is it okay to discriminate against gays? It seems 100% wrong to discriminate against someone over something that's out of their control.

At the same time, how can I force someone to do something that's against their beliefs?

I'm afraid I don't have a good answer for this. It's something I have pondered on for a few years now, and I think both sides of the argument make valid points that I can agree with...yet at the same time, those points are mutually exclusive.

It's a tough dilemma.

Damn if this isn't off topic. I'm going to drop this discussion from here.

 

[Tryglaw]

I'm not saying that I'm against gay marriage. I was just making an observation about the history and acceptance of homosexuality. Personally, I'm fine with gay marriage, though from a Constitutional perspective, it should be a state issue and people should not be forced to participate (prepare food, photograph, provide venue, perform the service) if they don't want to. My policy is that, with a few rare exceptions, people should be left alone.

Well that, and besides, if someone told me they don't want to take my money (because them reasons), well, their loss, I'll just go to and hire / buy from their competition. Free market capitalism, ho!

 

[ShieldWife]

I'm with you on that. Sort of.

I used to be on the other side of the cake argument, but I thought about it, and I am torn on it these days.

It doesn't seem right to force a person or company to make something that goes against their beliefs....but turning away a customer from a regular business just because they're gay is pretty clearly discrimination.

If they refused to make cakes for blacks, I'd be pretty against that. So why is it okay to discriminate against gays?

At the same time, how can I force someone to do something that's against their beliefs?

I'm afraid I don't have a good answer for this. It's something I have pondered on for a few years now, and I think both sides of the argument make valid points that I can agree with...yet at the same time, those points are mutually exclusive.

It's a tough dilemma.

I'm alright with any kind of discrimination, for what ever reason people like. I control my body, my businesses is my property, if I don't want to bake a cake for somebody because of their sexual orientation, race, sex, religion, or because I don't like their face - that is my right to refuse. So I do think that the same standard should exist for discrimination based on race and on sexual orientation, and that both should be allowed. I would only make a few exceptions, like doctors providing life saving treatment, but the imperative for a doctor to treat a dying patient exists in nearly any case, not just when one of the left's favored groups is being denied.

Well that, and besides, if someone told me they don't want to take my money (because them reasons), well, their loss, I'll just go to and hire / buy from their competition. Free market capitalism, ho!

Yes, I agree.

 

[Bacle]

I'm with you on that. Sort of.

I used to be on the other side of the cake argument, but I thought about it, and I am torn on it these days.

It doesn't seem right to force a person or company to make something that goes against their beliefs....but turning away a customer from a regular business just because they're gay is pretty clearly discrimination.

If they refused to make cakes for blacks, I'd be pretty against that. So why is it okay to discriminate against gays? It seems 100% wrong to discriminate against someone over something that's out of their control.

At the same time, how can I force someone to do something that's against their beliefs?

I'm afraid I don't have a good answer for this. It's something I have pondered on for a few years now, and I think both sides of the argument make valid points that I can agree with...yet at the same time, those points are mutually exclusive.

It's a tough dilemma.

With the Master Piece cake thing, what is often forgotten is that it wasn't just a cake that was demanded.

It was catering at the venue as well.

The guy was willing to sell them a cake, but not cater a gay wedding, and that is where the trouble arose.

This bit info about that case is often ignored in the overarching narrative of that case.

 

[Rocinante]

With the Master Piece cake thing, what is often forgotten is that it wasn't just a cake that was demanded.

It was catering at the venue as well.

The guy was willing to sell them a cake, but not cater a gay wedding, and that is where the trouble arose.

This bit info about that case is often ignored in the overarching narrative of that case.

Well that certainly changes things.

I'm pretty solid in that case. If you don't want to cater to a gay wedding, that's your choice. A cake is a cake. Pretty neutral. It's just a cake.

Catering to a gay wedding is different.

It's up to you, As a caterer, if you take the job or not. If it's against your beliefs, that's your choice. I don't agree with it, but it's your choice to make.

But I'd be against say, a mcdonald's or whatever restaurant saying "sorry no cheeseburgers for gays."

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Well that, and besides, if someone told me they don't want to take my money (because them reasons), well, their loss, I'll just go to and hire / buy from their competition. Free market capitalism, ho!

That's not the goal however.
It's forcing people to humillate themselves before their masters by partaking in rituals they don't agree with.
Humilation Rituals

 

[Tryglaw]

That's not the goal however.
It's forcing people to humillate themselves before their masters by partaking in rituals they don't agree with.
Humilation Rituals

It's a... multi-faceted issue no doubt...

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

It's a... multi-faceted issue no doubt...

It's why compromise is a word worth less than filth to me. You either submit to our rule, or you will be destroyed.
They set the rules out like that, so they don't get to bitch when we aim the same rules at them.

 

[Deleted member 88]

Anyone who doesn’t acknowledge BLM and Antifa are explicitly anti White to the core is either not paying attention or lying.