EU France is on fire. Again.

Bassoe

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General Delawarde
This?
translation for our fellow forumgoes who don't speak Frog said:
A high-ranking paratrooper officer answered questions on a Telegram thread regarding the concerns recently expressed by retired generals, the civil war brewing in France and the fight to preserve our national identity. I translated some parts since this fight is shared with most of western civilization. Qanon is also mentionned, I'll get this part out of the way:

Q: Do the generals who signed this letter have any influence over the population or military?
>A: They don't. [...] This letter was a call for action directed towards politicians. It was also a wake up call to the french people. [...] Everyone attacks these generals because of their message or, on the contrary, hopes that the military will do something while they stay passive. Both positions are stupid.
>[...] Many of your american readers make references to Qanon. From my understanding, it's a movement of conspiracists who believe that their country is led by a positive, hidden elite who fights an evil international elite behind the scenes. Whether this is true or false, I believe that every theory that encourages passivity is nefarious. I say this for the french and for the people of most countries: there is no group that wages battles in the shadows to defend your interests; no conspiring generals, billionaires or politicians to change things for the people. There is no such thing.
>If generals say "stay at home, we got things under control, we're taking care of everything, the country will soon be free", they are lying. Do the opposite of what they ask: act, don't be passive. Freedom is necessarily active, passiveness is slavery. The passive man always submits to the will of those who act.

Q: In your eyes, is the Great Replacement a reality?
>A: Evidently so, no matter how you name it. A french couple that gives birth to a child in 2021 must be aware that they will grow up in a country where they will be the minority, where racial tension are and will continue to grow. I'm not saying "the kid will be a minority tomorrow", I say "our kids are condemned to be a minority in their own country, already today".
>The military are lucky to get home and take off their uniform, they can live a normal life. Our kids won't be so lucky, they will wear their uniform their whole life: their white skin is their uniform in this atrocious war waged against them, a war that will intensify in the coming years.
>[...] In the end, whether consciously or not, everyone positions themself around this subject. The Left thinks that 400000 immigrants per year is not enough, that 40% of african births is not enough. The Right thinks that it's a bit too much but if Mokhtar was named François, converted to LGBT atheism and got his national card, then our country would be better off. These debates are childish and hypocritical. But discussions will grow more tense and radical once the french get that it's not just theoretical, that it's about their life as individuals and as a people that is threatened.

Q: Do the french understand the gravity of the situation in their country? Can you give us your vision of France in 5-10-20 years?
>A: They absolutely do not. I really think so. Some civilians have a very good understanding of what's going on because they suffer everyday. But honestly, most of the french have no idea of what's at stake. They don't understand that their future is being negociated by the elites. The Left wants to completely purge whiteness to satisfy their psychotic need of forgiveness and their hurt feelings of injustice. The Right wants to negotiate their capitulation: "yes, whites are a minority like any other so we should somewhat protect them, pretty please, thanks, bye". For the two sides, France is no more and the pure-blooded french are remnants. One side wants to get rid of them and the other wants to put them in a museum.
>[...] The french elites signed a Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact 2.0. This pact was a secret deal between the russians and germans to divide Poland. The polish people continued to lead a normal live nonetheless, unaware that their destiny was sealed. This perfectly describes the situation in France. [...] But the german troups had infinitly more respect for the polish they occupied, than the french elites have for their own country that they are betraying.
>[...] In 2050, your grandchildren will be born in a France where 65% of all other kids are of african descent. We will get there eventually because you can't fight demography, and tribal/racial instincts awakened by demographic strength are violent.
>[...] The military says "sweat spares blood", meaning that facing an obstacle ahead during training leads to minimal loss in a real fight. The french refused to fight the problem seriously, so things will get bloody.

Q: Do you think the generals are right when they say things will get worse, maybe to the point where war breaks out?
>A: There will be a "war", that much is certain. It's logical. We can be moved by this but we can't feign surprise. [...] At first, the confrontation between the french and the immigrants was purely demographic (mathematical, passive). Over the years it's become cultural, each population trying to assert their culture and/or religion. Today, they are duking it out in the political ring. This is the crucial, penultimate part. When politics will fail to solve the problem, we enter the military phase. I mean it, politics will fail. [...] If one side wins, the other loses and vice versa. War will come naturally as the only means for the loser to claim their due.

Q: How much time do you think we have to act before war becomes unavoidable?
>A: The temporal window was 1990-2000. It's already passed. The truth nobody dares to claim is that we can't treat the problem with politics or peacefully. [...] The question is no more "how can we avoid division, civil war", it's now "when will it snap and how will we win". This is a point of dissent with the generals: they believe we should avoid civil war. That's not what I and many of my military comrades think. [...] Trying to avoid civil war at all costs even though there is no pacific solution, that's a de facto capitulation. [...] If there was no civil war, it would mean the french have totally abandoned their ideals and decided to preserve peace, even if it means being enslaved. Freedom is non-negociable, our genocide shouldn't be "arranged/adapted". The french have have an exclusive and legitimate right to the land of their ancestors, so long as they bear this certitude like a flame in their heart, they will be invincible.

Q: So you're convinced that there will be a violent conflict in France.
>A: [...] I use the word "war" to make things simpler. But it won't be a war in the traditional sense, with soldiers, tanks and helicopters on each side. It will be asymetrical, informational. Which is not to say physical confrontation is excluded. [...] In this kind of war, territorial control is necessary (pure-blooded french win that with overwhelming ease), but victory is obtained by mobilizing the population and international opinion to get legitimacy. Only then can you remove the pebble in your shoe, purge institutions and normalize a new regime with ties to other countries. This will be the main challenge. [...] With hands untied, the military could "liberate" our country in ten days. Institutions would be purged in a month. Literally. One infantry company can manage a "sensible area"; fifteen marines can maneuver a container carrier; three judges can judge a thousand of traitors. We can easily go through with this great spring cleaning, even with regards to legality. Difficulty lies elsewhere. How far are the french willing to go for their survival and their children's future? This question will divide the country and make the conflict last.

Q: Assuming a civil war does occur in France, when will it happen?
>A: In our lifetime. I can't see something of that magnitude happening before 2030. But if nothing happens by 2050, it'll probably be already too late and our fight will be lost. This gives us 10 years to prepare for a window of 20 years.

Q: Any final word?
>A: Don't lose hope. It's all just the beginning. [...] Be proud of being french and be certain of your legitimacy on this land. This is your duty.
[...] We must answer the question asked since 1945 that we always refused to answer: "Do the people have the right to a nation that is exclusively at their service?". The sad events of WWII gave us a negative answer. Today, we are urged to offer a positive answer. Whatever answer we get, this time, it'll be definitive. [...] Be happy, because you are the generation who will see a cycle end and another begin. Such things only happen once in History. Not only will it happen during your lifetime, you will also have a part to play. [...] There is no greater honnor for a man or woman than to defend their blood by defending their territory.
Well, they DID paint a mural of George Floyd in Kabul, Afghanistan.
I know. The taliban got rid of it as part of their prohibition against idols.
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
That is business as usual in France, people protest and riot, but no significant changes are made.

No disrespect intended, but that's not true. The French political system has been in chaotic flux from 1789 onward, with only a few islands of stability under the soldier Emperors of the Bonapartes. Another Republic is only ever one riot turning nasty away.

We are getting the 6th Republic within our lifetimes I think.
 

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
No disrespect intended, but that's not true. The French political system has been in chaotic flux from 1789 onward, with only a few islands of stability under the soldier Emperors of the Bonapartes. Another Republic is only ever one riot turning nasty away.

We are getting the 6th Republic within our lifetimes I think.
6th time is going to be the charm!
 

The Whispering Monk

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Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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Is France...
Becoming Based?
Charlie Hedibo awakened them.

The burning of their churches, and attacks on their churches, by Islamists, and the woke reaction of parts of the West, has caused to start doubling down on their Frenchiness.

I really, really wish we could get Rufus's reaction to things going on in France. Maybe we should have let him send GSG9 after Google like he wanted, might have saved us some trouble during the 2020 election.
 

WolfBear

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Good. The more damages are caused by minorities deciding to try and piss off the natives of european nations, the more likely the concepts of diversity and equality will be tainted beyond recovery.
You could honestly gradually see the Israelification of the West in such a scenario, with Western whites becoming almost as nationalistic as Israeli Jews are. "Almost" because there would still be some Woke whites remaining regardless of anything.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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Charlie Hedibo awakened them.

The burning of their churches, and attacks on their churches, by Islamists, and the woke reaction of parts of the West, has caused to start doubling down on their Frenchiness.

I really, really wish we could get Rufus's reaction to things going on in France. Maybe we should have let him send GSG9 after Google like he wanted, might have saved us some trouble during the 2020 election.
Why would Rufus want GSG9 and not the GIGN?
He is French not Belgian
 

WolfBear

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No. The authorities are merely keeping the lid on pot, so it doesn't boil over. You can be sure that there are lot more than 99 mosques that are problematic, it's just that imams in these were so blatant that even authorities couldn't ignore it anymore.

For what it's worth, it looks like Macron is doing something right in regards to this:


By the way, if you want to know why Muslims in the US are more assimilated than Muslims in Europe are, it might have something to do with their level of education:


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Other than Latin Americans, the US gets mostly well-educated immigrants. For Europe, the situation is considerably worse--though their least educated immigrants appear to be Muslims--and their huge numbers are also a political issue in Europe.
 

Marduk

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Other than Latin Americans, the US gets mostly well-educated immigrants. For Europe, the situation is considerably worse--though their least educated immigrants appear to be Muslims--and their huge numbers are also a political issue in Europe.
That probably has the most to do with how the immigrant selection works in each case.
In USA, most of the number is somewhat merit based.
In France, its mostly "whoever shows up", with plenty of refugees, boat people and the like.
 

WolfBear

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That probably has the most to do with how the immigrant selection works in each case.
In USA, most of the number is somewhat merit based.
In France, its mostly "whoever shows up", with plenty of refugees, boat people and the like.

Yeah, you're probably right about that. That said, though, the US also accepts some refugees and family reunification immigrants and also has a Diversity Visa Lottery. However, AFAIK, a lot of the people who play the Diversity Visa Lottery are also smart and educated:


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And of course family reunification immigrants are more likely to be smart and talented if the initial immigrants are smart and talented, which is the case for most immigrants to the US from much of the world.

But even when it comes to uneducated immigrants, I certainly prefer Latin Americans to Muslims since the former have much less of a risk of terrorism. At least Latin Americans won't murder you over a cartoon (Charlie Hebdo) and/or over you speaking your mind (Theo van Gogh).
 

Chiron

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By the way, if you want to know why Muslims in the US are more assimilated than Muslims in Europe are, it might have something to do with their level of education:


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Other than Latin Americans, the US gets mostly well-educated immigrants. For Europe, the situation is considerably worse--though their least educated immigrants appear to be Muslims--and their huge numbers are also a political issue in Europe.

Actually it's the 1st and 14th Amendments. There are a lot of Salafists in the US. They despise terrorism, and their way is build up culture, have lots of children, and lead by example.

There is no active Government interference in worship like in France and people's reaction to Niqabis is meh.

You will never see US Police assaulting women in the streets or beaches over their attire and denying girls public services over their dress like France.

In short, French hypocrisy is driving the problem. The French voted for this as well, so you French made your bed. Now lie in it. Or you know, stop being hypocritical assholes easily manipulated to vote for neoliberal politicians who sell you out after swearing in.
 

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