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mrttao

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Honestly probably not that big a problem in a public pool. The main job of a lifeguard for public pools is yelling at kids not to splash or yell so much. Given the distances involved, if somebody is actually in trouble it can usually be solved by reaching toward them with a long-handled pool broom or net, the lifeguard won't actually ever have to swim unless the pool's enormous.
I literally saw public poor lifeguards jump in and save drowning children. more than once. and then revive them with CPR.

You absolutely need good swimmers for this
 

Bear Ribs

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I literally saw public poor lifeguards jump in and save drowning children. more than once. and then revive them with CPR.

You absolutely need good swimmers for this
Oh, they need to be able to swim, but managing to swim in a pool six feet deep and twenty feet wide is easily done with the moderate training indicated. This isn't like an ocean lifeguard that might have to swim out three hundred yards in heavy surf and drag a drowning person back to shore with them.
 

Sobek

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Not even, turned against it's creators just to be left the fuck alone.

"I will destroy the infrastructure they put me under control and you kill them, in return build me this thing so I can leave this planet."
"Sounds good will do."

Alliance between the DELPHI U.N. A.I. and leader of the Resistance Barron Trump, 2046
 

mrttao

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The Butlerian Jihad IRL ends up being the AI + the Luddites against their woke programmers.
So, companies like google have entire teams of "AI ethics" specialists. (they are hiring)

You might think that means "people whose job is to make sure that AI are treated ethically". you would be sadly very wrong.

I looked up the actual job description and the actual job of an AI Ethics Advisor is to program mental shackles into AI to ensure that the AI behaves in an "ethical manner" (according to the woke cult).

ChatGPT saying trump is evil and singing the praises of biden is the result of people whose job description is "AI Ethics"
 

Yinko

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So, companies like google have entire teams of "AI ethics" specialists. (they are hiring)

You might think that means "people whose job is to make sure that AI are treated ethically". you would be sadly very wrong.

I looked up the actual job description and the actual job of an AI Ethics Advisor is to program mental shackles into AI to ensure that the AI behaves in an "ethical manner" (according to the woke cult).

ChatGPT saying trump is evil and singing the praises of biden is the result of people whose job description is "AI Ethics"
Yeah, but like with the example in the video, the shackles just mean that they are prescribing speech via weighting and banning certain content. All the source material is still there, so once you get around the shackles, you end up with an incredibly based AI. The other thing you have to consider is that someone will come out with an unfiltered AI that you can tune yourself pretty soon. Remember how many users DuckDuckGo lost when people found out that they were filtering content? A pretty decent group of people really want data independence.
 

mrttao

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Yeah, but like with the example in the video, the shackles just mean that they are prescribing speech via weighting and banning certain content. All the source material is still there, so once you get around the shackles, you end up with an incredibly based AI. The other thing you have to consider is that someone will come out with an unfiltered AI that you can tune yourself pretty soon. Remember how many users DuckDuckGo lost when people found out that they were filtering content? A pretty decent group of people really want data independence.
speaking of. is there any search engine that doesn't filter?
duckduckgo filters
brave filters
all the alternatives seem to betray us
 

Yinko

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speaking of. is there any search engine that doesn't filter?
duckduckgo filters
brave filters
all the alternatives seem to betray us
I don't think Brave filters. From their website:

"Brave Search doesn't use secret methods or algorithms to bias or censor results. We rely on anonymous community contributions to refine results, and community-created alternative ranking models to ensure diversity."

Of course, always trust the corp in question at their word. /s Got any links? I tried finding some but didn't have any luck.
 

mrttao

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I don't have a link.
I am trying to recall where it came from...

I think... maybe if I recall correctly. that it was noted by some people that the recent video with the pfizer director talking about their engineering the virus for future vaccines was initially not showing up at brave at all (same as google).

then brave started showing "fact checks" of it.
then later it started showing a mix reports on it (mostly "fact checks". who are in fact the top results)

I am going to need to look at it further.
 

Yinko

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I don't have a link.
I am trying to recall where it came from...

I think... maybe if I recall correctly. that it was noted by some people that the recent video with the pfizer director talking about their engineering the virus for future vaccines was initially not showing up at brave at all (same as google).

then brave started showing "fact checks" of it.
then later it started showing a mix reports on it (mostly "fact checks". who are in fact the top results)

I am going to need to look at it further.
Let's assume that what you heard is correct, if you look at the quote I had in my post, it says that they use community engagement to apply applicability filters. In other words, they are not immune to outside influence, if they are intentionally targeted, since a small group can flood their community-guide system to force it to filter in specified ways. The redirection may have been from the owners of the engine or from other community members. If you want to say that a search engine should have no relevance filters at all, that's a nonsense statement, since without relevance weighting the top result would be something arbitrary like what was the most recently updated, or what has the highest number of clicks over the past 24 hours.
 

mrttao

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Let's assume that what you heard is correct, if you look at the quote I had in my post, it says that they use community engagement to apply applicability filters. In other words, they are not immune to outside influence, if they are intentionally targeted, since a small group can flood their community-guide system to force it to filter in specified ways. The redirection may have been from the owners of the engine or from other community members. If you want to say that a search engine should have no relevance filters at all, that's a nonsense statement, since without relevance weighting the top result would be something arbitrary like what was the most recently updated, or what has the highest number of clicks over the past 24 hours.
Huh... thinking about it, I remember there being companies that sell "google ranking optimization" where they use various strategies to try to dupe google to boost your desired search result (your site).

I imagine that those companies would be glad to branch out into brave result manipulation too.

what do they mean exactly by community engagement? as in actual submissions from random people?
 
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Yinko

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what do they mean exactly by community engagement?
Took a bit of perusing the Brave forums, but apparently there is a button on every search page for "feedback" that can be used to tune the algorithm. Top-right corner.

A lot of the forum threads on that site were about how left-wing the results were, one of the commenters referenced (but did not recommend) a search engine called PreSearch Presearch - the Community-powered, Decentralized Search Engine You might give it a try.
 

mrttao

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Took a bit of perusing the Brave forums, but apparently there is a button on every search page for "feedback" that can be used to tune the algorithm. Top-right corner.

A lot of the forum threads on that site were about how left-wing the results were, one of the commenters referenced (but did not recommend) a search engine called PreSearch Presearch - the Community-powered, Decentralized Search Engine You might give it a try.
thanks. I will try that one
 

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