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You believe some incredibly wrong things about them.

It's like you saw a top 10 most ridiculous lies people who hate evangelicals say but didn't realize the list wasn't reality.
Can you tell me what claim I made you think does not apply to evangelicals. I am willing to prove that evangelical leaders like John Hagee are heretics, and we can see mega church pastors acting evil and being greedy because they believe they won't be punished.


You're far too kind, assuming that he's a kind of victim, merely fooled by hateful bullshit.

In reality, he's the exact kind of ridiculous and hateful liar whose bullshit might be described by such lists as you mention. He's not a victim of insane nonsense; he's a peddler of insane nonsense.
Go suck off some Neo cons as you and your people are nothing but America's bitches. We say jump you follow through.
 
Can you tell me what claim I made you think does not apply to evangelicals. I am willing to prove that evangelical leaders like John Hagee are heretics, and we can see mega church pastors acting evil and being greedy because they believe they won't be punished.



Go suck off some Neo cons as you and your people are nothing but America's bitches. We say jump you follow through.
@Skallagrim

Anyway now that I've cooled off a bit. Let me apologize for telling you to go suck people off. I just don't like it when people lie and call me a liar.

I do dislike you personally though because you seem to be a hypocrite to me, the type of person that can dish out punishment, but can't take it when it's thrown back at you and cries.
 
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@Skallagrim

Anyway now that I've cooled off a bit. Let me apologize for telling you to go suck people off. I just don't like it when people lie and call me a liar.

I do dislike you personally though because you seem to be a hypocrite to me, the type of person that can dish out punishment, but can't take it when it's thrown back at you and cries.
Forget it. Even if you prove he's a liar, he'll just break off after declaring you're just too stupid to appreciate his genius.
 
They are a subset of Protestants. Most of their churches and doctrines only go back 100 years.

Famous evangelicals are John Hagee and Kenneth Copeland.
That is a very loose idea of rhem.
The general belief of them is..
"Evangelicals take the Bible seriously and believe in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. The term "evangelical" comes from the Greek word euangelion, meaning "the good news" or the "gospel." Thus, the evangelical faith focuses on the "good news" of salvation brought to sinners by Jesus Christ."
 
They are a subset of Protestants. Most of their churches and doctrines only go back 100 years.

Famous evangelicals are John Hagee and Kenneth Copeland.
This has the same energy as

"Of course I know about Star Wars.

Star Wars is an American epic space opera media franchise created by George Lucas, which began with the eponymous 1977 film[a] and quickly became a worldwide pop culture phenomenon."
 
It’s not stupid evangelicals are a death cult.
Watch it, you may have a right to your opinions but as a Southern Baptist which many might describe as 'Evangelical' I would prefer you refrain from putting such a broad and pretty offending label on a whole bunch of people I know.
How is a doomsday cult not a death cult?
How is taking the inevitability of Jesus's eventual Resurrection and the destruction of the world as detailed in the Book of Revelations as a fact a sign that you want death or misery? Indeed, the only reason you can describe it as a 'death cult' is by acknowledging you (and by extension the rest of the Orthodox Church) do not believe one of the central tenants of Christianity that Jesus will be resurrected or even more egregious that you view his resurrection, or the end as described as an inherently negative thing.

Furthermore, preparing your soul for the inevitability of Christ return or in absence your personal death is pretty much present in every sect of Christianity, so I don't see how that equation works...
 
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They are a subset of Protestants. Most of their churches and doctrines only go back 100 years.

Famous evangelicals are John Hagee and Kenneth Copeland.
Given I've never heard of either of those figures (maybe you brought up one of them once? I don't recall), but you're not naming other, much more well-known evangelical figures like Billy Graham, really says a lot about how little you understand of Evangelicals.
 
Given I've never heard of either of those figures (maybe you brought up one of them once? I don't recall), but you're not naming other, much more well-known evangelical figures like Billy Graham, really says a lot about how little you understand of Evangelicals.
He thinks the televangelists that are greedy men are the main evangelical crowd
 
That is a very loose idea of rhem.
The general belief of them is..
"Evangelicals take the Bible seriously and believe in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord. The term "evangelical" comes from the Greek word euangelion, meaning "the good news" or the "gospel." Thus, the evangelical faith focuses on the "good news" of salvation brought to sinners by Jesus Christ."
But Zach this is a way looser idea. Heck it's so broad it fits those who are definitely not Evangelicals like Catholics. Hell @ATP do you take the Bible seriously, and believe that Jesus is your lord and savior?

I mean that definition is what a CHRISTIAN is all Christians think of the Bible as a historical document and message inspired by God. They believe in the Old Testament, and they believe in the New that Jesus was born to a virgin, all of the miracles attributed to him in the Bible(water into wine, and walking on water, healing the sick, raising the dead, etc.) actually were done by him. He was crucified and died, and three days later he resurrected. He is the second person of the trinity.

That's basic Christianity, Lutherans, Calvinists, Catholics, Baptists, Orthodox all believe this.

Also funny story Martin Luther actually wanted his denomination to be called evangelical instead of Lutheran because in the past sects that were heretical like Arians, and Sabellians were named after their founders. Same reason Calvinists want to be called Reformed instead of after John Calvin.

This has the same energy as

"Of course I know about Star Wars.

Star Wars is an American epic space opera media franchise created by George Lucas, which began with the eponymous 1977 film[a] and quickly became a worldwide pop culture phenomenon."
How should I define evangelicals then? They are not an organized bunch, I mean it's similar to non denominational Christians. It's basically hipster new age Christianity, they basically took some of the basics of baptists and then added whatever heretical new age beliefs they wanted should I specify the new age things? Like prosperity gospel, the charasmatic movement with pastors running mega church's, worshipping Israel(it's ok to support Israel for secular reasons, but if you are tying the modern state of Israel to biblical Israel then you are a heretic)

Watch it, you may have a right to your opinions but as a Southern Baptist which many might describe as 'Evangelical' I would prefer you refrain from putting such a broad and pretty offending label on a whole bunch of people I know.
Evangelicals are similar to non denominational.

Now most of those are Baptists, but not all or even most Baptists are non denominational or evangelical.

As for the label death cult I guess we can talk below about how it applies to evangelicals.

How is taking the inevitability of Jesus's eventual Resurrection and the destruction of the world as detailed in the Book of Revelations as a fact a sign that you want death or misery? Indeed, the only reason you can describe it as a 'death cult' is by acknowledging you (and by extension the rest of the Orthodox Church) do not believe one of the central tenants of Christianity that Jesus will be resurrected or even more egregious that you view his resurrection, or the end as described as an inherently negative thing.

Furthermore, preparing your soul for the inevitability of Christ return or in absence your personal death is pretty much present in every sect of Christianity, so I don't see how that equation works...
First part you are combining two things, Christs return with all the other tribulations that are supposed to be happening in the end times. The End Times are bad, Christ's return is what saves the world. The book of revelations can be hard to read since not all of it is literal some of it is metaphorical so it's difficult to tell which is which since it deals with prophecy what WILL happen as opposed to history what HAS happened.
However the disturbing thing you said that indicates support for evangelicalism is that you think it's egregious or bad that someone would see the prophecy as a bad thing. Yes little one massive war, a coup by the literal child of the devil where he rules for at least 7 years, if it happens in current times that means that the Anti Christ's power/nation will be our country being the backbone of it, becoming the worst nation in history worse than the Soviets, or Mao's China, or the Nazis, and worthy of all souls looking down on it and spitting on it, also oppressing Christians before God finally comes back to destroy this wicked nation and save the faithful. Yes God coming to save the faithful is good, but all of the stuff before is not, you will have to live through a tyrannical regime that will impoverish you beat you, rape you, kill you maybe. Because guess what the rapture is not biblical it's a heresy that was added on in the 1800's.
Yes revelations is prophecy, and it will happen but wishing it to happen earlier instead of later IS death cult behavior. God has given bad prophecies before, both to Israel and others. I mean tell me did God not have Jonah a prophet give Ninevh a prophecy of their destruction(conditional on their wickedness or lack of repentence)?
Should they have been happy with that prophecy and tried to make it come about?

Same with revelation unlike with Nineveh's propecy revelations WILL happen eventually but it doesen't have to be in modern days. It could be 100 years from now, 1000, 10,000. As long as humans are around it is possible, trying to manipulate it to come earlier is arrogant and semi blasphemy, God moves at his own time.

There is nothing wrong with making sure your soul is ready for God's return or your death, as no human knows when either comes. But that's not death cult behavior. All Christians, heck all real religions have the goal of making sure they are able to enter a good afterlife after death.

Given I've never heard of either of those figures (maybe you brought up one of them once? I don't recall), but you're not naming other, much more well-known evangelical figures like Billy Graham, really says a lot about how little you understand of Evangelicals.
John Hagee you've never heard of him? Besides being a mega church pastor also is the founder and chairman of CUFI the largest Christian zionist group? Do you just not know who big well known figures are or do you try to avoid it for some reason?
 
John Hagee you've never heard of him? Besides being a mega church pastor also is the founder and chairman of CUFI the largest Christian zionist group? Do you just not know who big well known figures are or do you try to avoid it for some reason?
Unless a megachurch pastor writes a book like 'Purpose Driven Life' that becomes popular, Evangelicals generally have no idea a given megachurch exists, much less who is pastoring it, with the obvious exception of those who attend it or live relatively close to it. I think you may have brought this guy up before, but I've literally never heard any other Evangelical, or Protestant for that matter, bring him up. Most of us don't care that much about zionism, quite frankly. Even among Christians in general, I've generally only heard the subject brought up in a political context, not a theological or religious.

We're much more likely to know specific teachers for their solid Biblical doctrine, especially those who are good at communicating how it practically plays out in day-to-day life.

As examples, Matt Chandler, Judah Smith, Brennan Manning (though he's been dead for a while now), Tim Keller (died recently) or Francis Chan.

I think Judah Smith's church has gotten pretty big, no idea if it'd be considered a 'megachurch' or not. Chandler's got big, but they deliberately split it up.

For any others here who would consider themselves Evangelicals (or protestants in general), how many of the names I've just listed have you heard of?
 
Unless a megachurch pastor writes a book like 'Purpose Driven Life' that becomes popular, Evangelicals generally have no idea a given megachurch exists, much less who is pastoring it, with the obvious exception of those who attend it or live relatively close to it. I think you may have brought this guy up before, but I've literally never heard any other Evangelical, or Protestant for that matter, bring him up. Most of us don't care that much about zionism, quite frankly. Even among Christians in general, I've generally only heard the subject brought up in a political context, not a theological or religious.

We're much more likely to know specific teachers for their solid Biblical doctrine, especially those who are good at communicating how it practically plays out in day-to-day life.

As examples, Matt Chandler, Judah Smith, Brennan Manning (though he's been dead for a while now), Tim Keller (died recently) or Francis Chan.

I think Judah Smith's church has gotten pretty big, no idea if it'd be considered a 'megachurch' or not. Chandler's got big, but they deliberately split it up.

For any others here who would consider themselves Evangelicals (or protestants in general), how many of the names I've just listed have you heard of?
I don’t know any of those names. But I do know evangelicals and I’ve spoken to them and they are pretty hard core Zionist the reason she gave when I asked my aunt was “Jews are gods chosen people.”
 
I don’t know any of those names. But I do know evangelicals and I’ve spoken to them and they are pretty hard core Zionist the reason she gave when I asked my aunt was “Jews are gods chosen people.”
And I've never met a single evangelical who brought it up as a religious matter to me. I know one evangelical who brought it up as a political subject, and it was to talk about how Israel is mostly politically controlled by atheistic jews and rabbinic jews who've rejected Christ. He thinks they're a useful strategic ally in the middle east, but by New Testament doctrine, any who reject Christ are no longer God's chosen people.

Not a single time has any other Christian brought the subject up to me, not when I was part of a missionary family in the middle east, not when I was at missions conferences, not in any church I've attended in the midwest, not when I was part of Christian college orgs, not at any times or any places.

At most, you have your personal experiences against my personal experiences.
 
And I've never met a single evangelical who brought it up as a religious matter to me. I know one evangelical who brought it up as a political subject, and it was to talk about how Israel is mostly politically controlled by atheistic jews and rabbinic jews who've rejected Christ. He thinks they're a useful strategic ally in the middle east, but by New Testament doctrine, any who reject Christ are no longer God's chosen people.

Not a single time has any other Christian brought the subject up to me, not when I was part of a missionary family in the middle east, not when I was at missions conferences, not in any church I've attended in the midwest, not when I was part of Christian college orgs, not at any times or any places.

At most, you have your personal experiences against my personal experiences.
Yes personal interactions. But you can also find this stuff online.

What is happening in Israel is not about Palestine or the Palestinian people. And it is even bigger than Hamas and Israel. Plain and simple, this is about the hatred of the Jewish people. These are God's chosen people, and Christians should be ready to support Israel.

In the book of Joshua, the tribes of Israel took possession of the land as an inheritance from God Himself. The word "inheritance" is found 50 times in the early chapters of Joshua, reminding us that the Jewish people inherited their land. They did not win it as a spoil of battle or purchase it through a business transaction. They inherited the land.

This is also false. They won the land through battle. God helped them win. But it's not like it was just given, they had to fight for it.

It's important to also mention that there's a teaching happening in the Church called "Replacement Theology." It basically says that God is done with Israel and that the Church—believers in Jesus Christ—has taken their place. In other words, they are no longer God's chosen people, we are.


A governor having this worship of Jews with the whole they are god's chosen.



"There are right now Jewish people on this earth who have a powerful and special relationship with God… They have been chosen by the 'election of grace' in which God does what he does without asking man to approve or understand it. Let us put an end to the Christian chatter that 'all the Jews are lost' and can't be in the will of God until they convert to Christianity... There are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now through divine election." (Source: Hagee, Should Christians Support Israel?, Pages 124-25, 127)

"The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses… I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption." (Source: Julia Duin, "San Antonio Fundamentalist Battles Anti-Semitism," The Houston Chronicle)

"The law of Moses is sufficient enough to bring a person into the knowledge of God until God gives him a greater revelation. And God has not." (Source: Julia Duin, "San Antonio Fundamentalist Battles Anti-Semitism," The Houston Chronicle)

"If God blinded the Jewish people to the identity of Jesus as Messiah, how could He send them to hell for not seeing what he had forbidden them to see?" (Source: John Hagee, personal faxed correspondence to CRI, 18 October 1994, Page 3)

"Jesus refused to produce a sign because it was not the Father's will, nor his, to be Messiah." (Source: Hagee, In Defense of Israel, p 138)

"The Jews were not rejecting Jesus as Messiah; it was Jesus who was refusing to be the Messiah." (Source: Hagee, In Defense of Israel, p. 140)

"They wanted him to be their Messiah, but he flatly refused." (Source: Hagee, In Defense of Israel, p. 141)

"Jesus rejected to the last detail the role of Messiah in word or deed." (Source: Hagee, In Defense of Israel, p. 145)
 
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