Culture Female sexuality and the necessity of Patriarchy

Harlock

I should have expected that really
I look at that woman and I don't think she's saying rapists are fine, I think that she's taking the piss. I don't think she's even remotely in favour of it, she's just trying to get noticed and it worked.
I mean maybe there's an interview where she says all that and fine, maybe she does.

But first impression with no context, she's trolling
 

LifeisTiresome

Well-known member
ironically I think I did meet an Islamic extremist, more than one :p
And we should believe you why?

Nah fuck it. Just do me one favour, once a day every day ask yourself in perfect seriousness 'Am I wrong?' Just that but do it properly, don't fudge it, genuinely examine and ask whether what you think could in fact be wrong.
You have nothing of substance to say other then trust the normie and act like a normie. I have hated the normie long before I became what I am today.

Also, why don't you ask this yourself?

Leftists have already largely destroyed the family though haven’t they? Over half of children in the West are raised without an intact family - either because of out of wedlock birth or divorce - and a lot of rolls aren’t even having kids at all.

Feminism is like a giant shit-test which western men are failing. I mean seriously, look at this woman:

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She is basically alright with rape as long as the rapists aren’t white. Contrast that with the feminists who basically think that a guy looking at them wrong is rape.

If you don’t think that that extreme leftist is a dominant force in our society, it’s because you’ve already accepted aspects of their agenda as being normal.
Yes. But hey, the normies don't see it so @Harlock, it didn't happen. He is basically a liberal, they pretend that its doesn't exist or it doesn't happen because in truth they support it.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
Personally I don't think we need some kind of Orwellian police state, or controlling stuff to fix the problem.

Get rid of Alimony, get rid of child support and get rid of welfare for single parents.

Make who ever has custody have full fincial responsibility to go along with the power that custody represents. This is how it was done historically and divorce was rare as a result. The cure is to match power to responsibility once you do that I think things will fix themselves. Though admittedly there will be some pain as people are forced to adjust.
 

ShieldWife

Marchioness
Personally I don't think we need some kind of Orwellian police state, or controlling stuff to fix the problem.

Get rid of Alimony, get rid of child support and get rid of welfare for single parents.

Make who ever has custody have full fincial responsibility to go along with the power that custody represents. This is how it was done historically and divorce was rare as a result. The cure is to match power to responsibility once you do that I think things will fix themselves. Though admittedly there will be some pain as people are forced to adjust.

That is a the ideal way to fix this problem, at least from a legal perspective. Through out much of history in western nations, there weren’t really laws against promiscuity. In fact, prostitution was more often legal back then than now. It’s just that there was a lot of social stigma against promiscuity, especially promiscuous women, and combined with that there were far fewer laws or programs in place to mitigate the negative consequences of women acting inappropriate sexually.

In fact, as the natural consequences of promiscuity were reduced (the pill, welfare, child support, alimony, etc.) then promiscuity and the assorted social problems, including those mentioned in the OP, exploded soon after.
 

Harlock

I should have expected that really
And we should believe you why?
I have nothing to gain or lose either way, believe as you see fit. Met a lot of nasty people in my work, but a lot of good ones too. Helps a lot when it comes to weighing up humanity.


You have nothing of substance to say other then trust the normie and act like a normie. I have hated the normie long before I became what I am today.
Well firstly hate is a waste of energy that gives you nothing, anger can be useful but not hate. Also why do you hate almost all of humanity? The fuck is wrong with you?

Also, why don't you ask this yourself?
I do, all the time, whenever I form an opinion I try to debate against it and if I still think the same then I stand by it. You should absolutely question everything to guarantee your answers are still right.

Yes. But hey, the normies don't see it so @Harlock, it didn't happen. He is basically a liberal, they pretend that its doesn't exist or it doesn't happen because in truth they support it.
I believe in evidence, I believe in fact, I don't believe in unsubstantiated speculation from fringe groups that happens to fit your hatreds.

And don't you fucking dare insinuate I support drag kids and all that shit. Don't you fucking dare. Because it will be the last thing you say on this board.

EDIT --I can and will disagree with you on a lot, but that doesn't mean I think you are 100% wrong, and it sure doesn't mean I support the other bunch either
 
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LifeisTiresome

Well-known member
I have nothing to gain or lose either way, believe as you see fit. Met a lot of nasty people in my work, but a lot of good ones too. Helps a lot when it comes to weighing up humanity.
Very self-righteous you are.

Well firstly hate is a waste of energy that gives you nothing, anger can be useful but not hate. Also why do you hate almost all of humanity? The fuck is wrong with you?
I wasn't being serious. I don't much care what the normie thinks. What normies see as gold matters not to me. The normie looks down on me, I look down on them. I don't hate them, irritation at them is more what it is.

I do, all the time, whenever I form an opinion I try to debate against it and if I still think the same then I stand by it. You should absolutely question everything to guarantee your answers are still right.
Oh So you do care then. You just said earlier that you didn't. You seem to flip flop alot.

I believe in evidence, I believe in fact, I don't believe in unsubstantiated speculation from fringe groups that happens to fit your hatreds.

And don't you fucking dare insinuate I support drag kids and all that shit. Don't you fucking dare. Because it will be the last thing you say on this board.
It doesn't exist. You just said so. It doesn't happen. It doesn't affect the normies. You don't see it so it doesn't happen.

So don't act outraged. You just said outrage is bad. Why are you acting outraged? Going back on your self-righteousness now? You certainly flip flop alot.
 

LifeisTiresome

Well-known member
@Harlock

I feel that we should stop as we are derailing the thread into a pissing contest between you and me. Its pointless and a waste of a thread for @Lord Invictus and @ShieldWife

I apologize to the both of you.

And I also apologize to you @Harlock

I could delete the above post but that would be me hiding what I have said and I don't think that means anything. I will be dropping this and you can have the last word or insult if you wish. Take care.
 

ShieldWife

Marchioness
I look at that woman and I don't think she's saying rapists are fine, I think that she's taking the piss. I don't think she's even remotely in favour of it, she's just trying to get noticed and it worked.
I mean maybe there's an interview where she says all that and fine, maybe she does.

But first impression with no context, she's trolling
Well, with no context it’s impossible to know what she means. The context, though, is the real reaction of millions of feminists across Europe to epidemics of rape that are plaguing nations that had almost no crime in living memory. These feminists will viciously attack anybody who wants to talk about those rapes, they actively aid and abet the rapists by working to surprise knowledge of the rapes. Regardless of the intentions of that one woman, he sign describes the real policy of just about every nation in Western Europe - that it doesn’t matter if the Muslims commit rape, if they are making those nations less white then it’s worth it.

Edit: bad timing, we can get back on topic now.
 

LifeisTiresome

Well-known member
Personally I don't think we need some kind of Orwellian police state, or controlling stuff to fix the problem.

Get rid of Alimony, get rid of child support and get rid of welfare for single parents.

Make who ever has custody have full fincial responsibility to go along with the power that custody represents. This is how it was done historically and divorce was rare as a result. The cure is to match power to responsibility once you do that I think things will fix themselves. Though admittedly there will be some pain as people are forced to adjust.

That is a the ideal way to fix this problem, at least from a legal perspective. Through out much of history in western nations, there weren’t really laws against promiscuity. In fact, prostitution was more often legal back then than now. It’s just that there was a lot of social stigma against promiscuity, especially promiscuous women, and combined with that there were far fewer laws or programs in place to mitigate the negative consequences of women acting inappropriate sexually.

In fact, as the natural consequences of promiscuity were reduced (the pill, welfare, child support, alimony, etc.) then promiscuity and the assorted social problems, including those mentioned in the OP, exploded soon after.
While you both make good points, the issue is that there is little reason this will happen as feminism has too much power and prestige in society and there is nothing stopping feminism and supporters to push away those laws.

Feminism is like a giant shit-test which western men are failing. I mean seriously, look at this woman:
Its more Men in general are failing it rather then just the West. You have this problem in China too, freaking China!
 

Harlock

I should have expected that really
Well, with no context it’s impossible to know what she means. The context, though, is the real reaction of millions of feminists across Europe to epidemics of rape that are plaguing nations that had almost no crime in living memory. These feminists will viciously attack anybody who wants to talk about those rapes, they actively aid and abet the rapists by working to surprise knowledge of the rapes. Regardless of the intentions of that one woman, he sign describes the real policy of just about every nation in Western Europe - that it doesn’t matter if the Muslims commit rape, if they are making those nations less white then it’s worth it.

Edit: bad timing, we ca get back on topic now.

Not sure if it ties in so I'll keep it brief and just say at least in the context of a lot of these British Muslim rape gangs its less about them being Muslim and more about organised crime. That doesn't make it right, absolutely not, but it is more about grooming girls into sex trafficking and prostitution. They weren't sharing these girls around for free, they were doing it for gain.
Muslims also dominate the drugs trade in those same districts and ringing cars, there isn't a racial component there its just organised crime. They tend to have extended networks of relatives not unlike very low class mafia.

So all I'll finish with is be carefully about assigning too much power to the race element, mostly its just plain old organised crime and trafficking that happens to be Muslims in those regions
 

ShieldWife

Marchioness
While you both make good points, the issue is that there is little reason this will happen as feminism has too much power and prestige in society and there is nothing stopping feminism and supporters to push away those laws.


Its more Men in general are failing it rather then just the West. You have this problem in China too, freaking China!
I know. I fear that we may be beyond the point where moderate solutions will be accepted to implemented. The left has too much power and their ideology has been too broadly accepted and internalized even by people who consider themselves conservatives. Our current social issues probably won’t get better until they cause a total societal collapse, at which point the aftermath might be further to the right that any of us are comfortable with.

In fact, that is happening in a certain sense in Europe. The families have been destroyed, promiscuity is the norm, feminism is ubiquitous, anti-white hatred dominates every level of social and political thought. So Europe is dying and what arises in its place? Radical Islam, an ideology that for all its flaws can in fact keep women under control and also feels no shame about being religiously or culturally chauvinistic.

Yeah, these problems are plaguing other parts of the world too, maybe not as badly as the West, but they will suffer as well in decades to come. At least people in Asian nations don’t hate the Asian race though, that gives them some advantage over Europe.
 

LifeisTiresome

Well-known member
The left has too much power and their ideology has been too broadly accepted and internalized even by people who consider themselves conservatives.
Yep. Its why I have said that the war is not really between Conservatives and Liberals. Its Liberals or Liberal lite vs Leftists. This is plain to see with Trump. In no way is he an actual true conservative.

In fact, that is happening in a certain sense in Europe. The families have been destroyed, promiscuity is the norm, feminism is ubiquitous, anti-white hatred dominates every level of social and political thought. So Europe is dying and what arises in its place? Radical Islam, an ideology that for all its flaws can in fact keep women under control and also feels no shame about being religiously or culturally chauvinistic.
Not if liberalism destroys them first. Its why they tried to push LGBT studies in schools in the UK in majority muslim areas. Its likely also why they are given so much assistance by the government, need them to be affluent to start spending money on vices and thus drift leftward.

Yeah, these problems are plaguing other parts of the world too, maybe not as badly as the West, but they will suffer as well in decades to come. At least people in Asian nations don’t hate the Asian race though, that gives them some advantage over Europe.
Yes, though cause of dropping population, there is talk of importing foreigners thus the grievance blather can possibly begin once the migrants have a big enough number that they comprise a minority population group.
 

Fleiur

Well-known member
Personally I don't think we need some kind of Orwellian police state, or controlling stuff to fix the problem.

Get rid of Alimony, get rid of child support and get rid of welfare for single parents.

Make who ever has custody have full fincial responsibility to go along with the power that custody represents. This is how it was done historically and divorce was rare as a result. The cure is to match power to responsibility once you do that I think things will fix themselves. Though admittedly there will be some pain as people are forced to adjust.
How does any country get rid of those things? They're popular with half the electorate and immigrants coming in want the same or more.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
So, @LifeisTiresome how old are you? Have you been around the generation and age of those you claims re trying to do what you are saying?
I have and 90% of them don't.
 

LifeisTiresome

Well-known member
So, @LifeisTiresome how old are you? Have you been around the generation and age of those you claims re trying to do what you are saying?
I have and 90% of them don't.
What do you mean exactly? Claims of what?

While I am very right wing, I can't really support these schemes by some on the right to restrict people's freedoms like this.

I oppose the left because I don't want to be ruled over by a self-righteous elite that lord over the rest of us. I don't want them to just be replaced by a different elite.
Its why my position is separatism via artificial wombs and companion bots.

The only way @Lord Invictus will get what he posits is civilizational collapse which could well happen cause of whats happening.

But whats your proposed solution then?
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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What do you mean exactly? Claims of what?


Its why my position is separatism via artificial wombs and companion bots.

The only way @Lord Invictus will get what he posits is civilizational collapse which could well happen cause of whats happening.

But whats your proposed solution then?
I am of the generation you claim is the feminist wave trying to kill all men. I have yet to meet a single one and I have been in multiple major cities as well.
 

LifeisTiresome

Well-known member
I am of the generation you claim is the feminist wave trying to kill all men. I have yet to meet a single one and I have been in multiple major cities as well.
And what do you presume will be this feminist wave? Riding with guns and killing people? You are stuck in a past mindset.

You have reports of women saying they hated that they had a son and in the specific case I'm talking about, a vile white male baby. You have the drag and trans kids which are either pushed heavily on boys or at least advertised that its all about boys.

The feminist I posted before advocated for men to no longer exist in high population numbers via eugenics. not by war. She also advocated for men's groups to be destroyed which came to pass.

You have all the news articles saying women are superior and men are inferior and more men die from Covid but we should worry about the women or that them dying from Covid is their fault cause no wash hands or wear mask cause muh toxic masculinity.

never mind, you have social media with every now and then saying, kill all men.

You have this bias that cause you didn't see it, it didn't happen. And thats not reality.

Thats the last I have to say on this, think I'm wrong and full of shit if you want. But lets move on and not derail thread any further.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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And what do you presume will be this feminist wave? Riding with guns and killing people? You are stuck in a past mindset.

You have reports of women saying they hated that they had a son and in the specific case I'm talking about, a vile white male baby. You have the drag and trans kids which are either pushed heavily on boys or at least advertised that its all about boys.

The feminist I posted before advocated for men to no longer exist in high population numbers via eugenics. not by war. She also advocated for men's groups to be destroyed which came to pass.

You have all the news articles saying women are superior and men are inferior and more men die from Covid but we should worry about the women or that them dying from Covid is their fault cause no wash hands or wear mask cause muh toxic masculinity.

never mind, you have social media with every now and then saying, kill all men.

You have this bias that cause you didn't see it, it didn't happen. And thats not reality.

Thats the last I have to say on this, think I'm wrong and full of shit if you want. But lets move on and not derail thread any further.
How many have you seen in person? I have plenty of female friends. I have met one girl crazy enough to think like this, and she isn't even that crazy! Thes people you talk about are like the people that catch covid twice
 

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