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[Rocinante]

When the left doesn't hold both houses of congress, the presidency, the educational system, the media, big tech and corporate culture, all at the same time, then maybe I'll believe the right is winning something.

We may see some of that change in November.

But as of right now, the right holds no institutional power whatsoever.

We aren't winning shit.

Though I am using that as fuel to make sure I get to the polls and vote R down ticket, just to defeat democrats. I'm at the point of voting R no matter who it is, and I'm not even a hard right winger. Shit I'm more like a Democrat of 15 years ago.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

You're blackpilled and missing the goal.

The right should never try and hold institutional power.

The right's job should be to so utterly delegitimize the institutions so completely that 90% of them collapse over the next 40 years.

The idea should be to replace them and failing that humiliate them to the point that a parallel America exists that does whatever the fuck it wants, is as based as it wants to be and doesn't care about anything because it doesn't need too.

That's something its currently achieving.

 

[King Arts]

You're blackpilled and missing the goal.

The right should never try and hold institutional power.

The right's job should be to so utterly delegitimize the institutions so completely that 90% of them collapse over the next 40 years.

The idea should be to replace them and failing that humiliate them to the point that a parallel America exists that does whatever the fuck it wants, is as based as it wants to be and doesn't care about anything because it doesn't need too.

That's something its currently achieving.

No I’m sorry friend that’s a stupid idea. The left did its march through the institutes, and it gained power through that. Just saying the FBI, media, military, etc is not legitimate is a recipe for failure. It’s doing what sovereign citizens do on a large scale embarrassment the right needs to take the lever of power. Those it can’t control must be purged.

 

[Rocinante]

You're blackpilled and missing the goal.

The right should never try and hold institutional power.

The right's job should be to so utterly delegitimize the institutions so completely that 90% of them collapse over the next 40 years.

The idea should be to replace them and failing that humiliate them to the point that a parallel America exists that does whatever the fuck it wants, is as based as it wants to be and doesn't care about anything because it doesn't need too.

That's something its currently achieving.

I'm not black pilled. What I just posted was REALITY.

As far as I understand it, being black pilled also means you've given up hope.

I still believe that unless they get really fucking dumb with it, that we have a chance to take some power back in November.

And I agree that tearing down some of these institutions rather than taking control, is probably a better option. For example corporate culture and mass media. That could use some burning, as they really only benefit a small elite.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

No I’m sorry friend that’s a stupid idea. The left did its march through the institutes, and it gained power through that. Just saying the FBI, media, military, etc is not legitimate is a recipe for failure. It’s doing what sovereign citizens do on a large scale embarrassment the right needs to take the lever of power. Those it can’t control must be purged.

Who said stop at "claiming their not legitimate" I'm not suggesting they don't take the levers of power.

I'm saying they delegitimize the levers of power to such a degree that they must be broken and reconstituted.

I'm talking about ultimately pushing for a reversion of Federal power to pre Jacksonian levels by instilling extreme minarchism and institutional hostility in the citizenry. I'm talking about reverting the Republic by massed popular mandate.

 

[Jormungandr]

You're blackpilled and missing the goal.

The right should never try and hold institutional power.

The right's job should be to so utterly delegitimize the institutions so completely that 90% of them collapse over the next 40 years.

The idea should be to replace them and failing that humiliate them to the point that a parallel America exists that does whatever the fuck it wants, is as based as it wants to be and doesn't care about anything because it doesn't need too.

That's something its currently achieving.

You and others are still acting and thinking under the old paradigm of thinking/the old status quo.

That paradigm no longer exists. The Left crushed it, pissed on it, shat on it, then threw it in your faces.

You're still trying to play a fair and rehearsed game of chess with a monkey that's upturned the board and is smearing faeces into your tea/coffee.

 

[Megadeath]

The right should never try and hold institutional power.

I'm not suggesting they don't take the levers of power.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Typical bullshit

hmmm


I'm saying they delegitimize the levers of power to such a degree that they must be broken and reconstituted.

I'm talking about ultimately pushing for a reversion of Federal power to pre Jacksonian levels by instilling extreme minarchism and institutional hostility in the citizenry. I'm talking about reverting the Republic by massed popular mandate.


I know being a spergbattles mod comes with IQ issues but really, you can least not also be a lying clown show of a miserable leftoid.

You and others are still acting and thinking under the old paradigm of thinking/the old status quo.

That paradigm no longer exists. The Left crushed it, pissed on it, shat on it, then threw it in your faces.

You're still trying to play a fair and rehearsed game of chess with a monkey that's upturned the board and is smearing faeces into your tea/coffee.

play fair?

Me?

me?!

I've been accused of a lot of things but never of being naïve.

Especially when what I'm saying needs to be done would probably result in 30% of the US population being permanently and generationally disenfranchised.

 

[Megadeath]

I know being a spergbattles mod comes with IQ issues but really, you can least not also be a lying clown show of a miserable leftoid.

Lol! Quoting two of your posts next to each other makes me "a lying clown show of a miserable leftoid."? I sure can accomplish a lot without even saying a single word, huh?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Lol! Quoting two of your posts next to each other makes me "a lying clown show of a miserable leftoid."? I sure can accomplish a lot without even saying a single word, huh?

Deliberately misrepresenting them does, which you do all the time. Because you aren't actually here to engage in anything resembling good faith. What followed can be summed up as "they should take them and then break them or else failing that revert them to a period in US history where 90% of them didn't exist.

I mean you being you, also helps there.

 

[Megadeath]

Deliberately misrepresenting them does, which you do all the time. Because you aren't actually here to engage in anything resembling good faith. What followed can be summed up as "they should take them and then break them or else failing that revert them to a period in US history where 90% of them didn't exist.

I mean you being you, also helps there.

It's sad that you can't tell the difference between disagreeing with you and bad faith, but it's a common hallmark of the parochial egocentric.

And I know what you said. The lunatic wishful thinking in the second post doesn't actually change that you blatantly contradicted yourself. "We should never hold power in the structure!" "Well, of course we'll need to hold power in the structure, but only to break the structure." See, that rationalisation included in the second part doesn't effect the contradiction. It's just an attempt to excuse it, which seems to be something of a knee jerk reaction on your part.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

It's sad that you can't tell the difference between disagreeing with you and bad faith, but it's a common hallmark of the parochial egocentric.

And I know what you said. The lunatic wishful thinking in the second post doesn't actually change that you blatantly contradicted yourself. "We should never hold power in the structure!" "Well, of course we'll need to hold power in the structure, but only to break the structure." See, that rationalisation included in the second part doesn't effect the contradiction. It's just an attempt to excuse it, which seems to be something of a knee jerk reaction on your part.

"Your elaboration doesn't change my used car salesman tier interpretation of your posts" this would be why spergbattles is comedy fodder for other sites. Because only schizos run that asylum.

Uhuh, go make an absolute spectacle out of your miserable, low grade self somewhere else. I'm not here to fulfil your self flagellating fantasies.

 

[Megadeath]

"Your elaboration doesn't change my used car salesman tier interpretation of your posts" this would be why spergbattles is comedy fodder for other sites. Because only schizos run that asylum.

Uhuh, go make an absolute spectacle out of your miserable, low grade self somewhere else. I'm not here to fulfil your self flagellating fantasies.

No, evidently you're here to indulge in delusional fantasies about popular revolt and some kind of social and cultural shift time travel. Also to throw out childish, worn out and meaningless insults.

You realise I've had nothing to do with SB in literally years? What's next, you're going to make fun of my high school's sports teams? And what on earth do you mean by "used car salesman tier interpretation"? You're just a wannabe edgy idiot.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

No, evidently you're here to indulge in delusional fantasies about popular revolt and some kind of social and cultural shift time travel. Also to throw out childish, worn out and meaningless insults.

"delusional fantasies"

Country en masse is turning on the chosen few...but sure.

You realise I've had nothing to do with SB in literally years? What's next, you're going to make fun of my high school's sports teams? And what on earth do you mean by "used car salesman tier interpretation"? You're just a wannabe edgy idiot.

You're still a gibbering mong though, which was my point for bringing it up, as it's a lingering mark against you.

"Wanna be edgy idiot" it's 2009 again apparently.

 

[Spartan303]

The political teeter tottering we see today is the same thing we've seen for decades. That, at least hasn't changed much.

Obama and the Dems had full control of the government, they lost Congress first then the Presidency to the Republicans. Then it swung the other way. We've seen the same thing with Clinton to Bush and Bush to Obama. And so if that trend holds, especially given the Democrats absolutely dismal performance economically, then House and the Senate will swing Republican which will then be followed by the Executive branch.

 

[Cherico]

The political teeter tottering we see today is the same thing we've seen for decades. That, at least hasn't changed much.

Obama and the Dems had full control of the government, they lost Congress first then the Presidency to the Republicans. Then it swung the other way. We've seen the same thing with Clinton to Bush and Bush to Obama. And so if that trend holds, especially given the Democrats absolutely dismal performance economically, then House and the Senate will swing Republican which will then be followed by the Executive branch.

Some day some ones going to ask why we simply don't have a system where local communities decide local standards instead of having a bunch of techocrats shove crap down everyones gullet.

Then the idea of federalism will come back again.

 

[Sailor.X]

Some day some ones going to ask why we simply don't have a system where local communities decide local standards instead of having a bunch of techocrats shove crap down everyones gullet.

Then the idea of federalism will come back again.

If you want to change that. Just get parents to stop being idiots in trying to push their kids to go to college. And instead have their kids gain real world experience in the work force or the military. Then years later if they want to attend college they can go on their own dime. Things started to go down hill after World War 2 when parents put on the stupid hat and began to push college on their kids. Colleges create technocrats.

 

[Cherico]

If you want to change that. Just get parents to stop being idiots in trying to push their kids to go to college. And instead have their kids gain real world experience in the work force or the military. Then years later if they want to attend college they can go on their own dime. Things started to go down hill after World War 2 when parents put on the stupid hat and began to push college on their kids. Colleges create technocrats.

That's actually happening right now.

College degrees have become pretty much worthless and a lot of parents are not sending their kids to college anymore.

 

[Spartan303]

Some day some ones going to ask why we simply don't have a system where local communities decide local standards instead of having a bunch of techocrats shove crap down everyones gullet.

Then the idea of federalism will come back again.

It is coming back. Slowly but surely.

 

[S'task]

But as of right now, the right holds no institutional power whatsoever.

Excuse me?

I'd like to direct your attention to the MOST Institutional of the Institutional Powers in the US Federal government, known as the US Supreme Court which is basically under the sway of the single most conservative justice in American History: Clarence Thomas.

Also, people seem to forget that there's a lot of government Institutional Power outside of the Federal Government. Even now, with how much they've tried to pull power there, in everyday life and in everyday matters, US State governments have more power and influence over people's daily lives than the Feds do.

Have you recently looked at a map of US State by party control of their legislature?

30 of the 50 states are Republican controlled. 3 have divided control, and 17 are pure democrat.

Governors are a little less skewed Republican, with Republicans controlling ONLY 28 of the Governor's mansions to the Dem's 22:

That's a LOT of Institutional Power there that the Right is working to leverage. There's a reason there's so much pushback against the Dems, much of their power is illusionary and due to control of the media that unfairly portrays them as being the "default" position of the country when in actuality the media is so skewed to the left of the average American they are barely in the nation's Overton Window despite their best efforts.