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I think the conan the barbarian in some regards is a good source of inspiration for fallout. For instance I'd like to see things like snake men and ape men ect. Maybe things analogous to yetis in a colder climate.
 

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though, as I keep pointing out, it's the right scale for a skirmish scale game
I mean... we KNOW a skirmish level game works in the Fallout setting. That's what Fallout: Tactics was and it's actually quite good. It also included some vehicles for squad level mobility and because it was tactical level, basically every member of your unit had their own SPECIAL sheet and you leveled them thus allowing all kinds of specialization and differentiation... and that's BEFORE you get to have Ghouls, Super-Mutants, and Hairy Deathclaws in your team.
 

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Would a city builder work in fallout? Something like Anno series only set somewhere in Fallout?

It's called fallout 4.

More seriously, I think there's a line between "a game that could plausible be set in the fallout universe" and a "a game that would be worth setting in the fallout universe". You could make, say, some kind of slice of life dating sim thing set in a vault, and it would be a viable concept, but would doing that really add anything to the setting, vs just being a thing you can buy?

For a more real example, Hogwarts Legacy offers a much more meaningful and interesting look at the setting than something like a qidditich game or running a shop in diagon alley, even though all 3 are entirely viable gameplay concepts and fit into the universe.
 

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Would a city builder work in fallout? Something like Anno series only set somewhere in Fallout?
That's how you get House/NCR/BoS/Enclave/Commonwealth to reunite the country against a common foe worse than the Legion; have NERV/SEELE show up.

Edit: I mean Tokyo 3's Geofront could have probably easily survived the Great War, and the Great War might even have been some nice cover for 2nd Impact.
 

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I’d just like the Fallout franchise not to suck and go back to more along the lines of the tone set in the first game (and to a lesser extent the second, though I still have a major ax to grind with the sheer amount of side missions and over abundance of pop culture references).
 

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I’d just like the Fallout franchise not to suck and go back to more along the lines of the tone set in the first game (and to a lesser extent the second, though I still have a major ax to grind with the sheer amount of side missions and over abundance of pop culture references).

What is it about the first game you found appealing?
 

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What is it about the first game you found appealing?

Well for one the tone was much darker, gritty and more grounded. Not saying Fallout should be grim-dark, but it is a post-nuclear war setting. Things are going to be messed up and dark to some degree. That and the game had a certain dark humor to it, which the Bethesda entries lacked (or went over the mark with) and which I feel was also lost in the mire of 2’s more wacky elements.

As mentioned above, I like how the first game didn’t have a stupid amount of side quests that tugged you away from the main story. There was the freedom of being able to do whatever you wanted, albeit not without consequences. There’s the more grey morality and the fact that while the main player was important, they weren’t the center of everything while at the same time playing second fiddle to one or more NPC characters. (Such as your dad, Sarah Lyons and Madison in Fallout 3, Father in Fallout 4)

Plus there’s all the little things that just take me out of the games for Fallout 3, 4 and 76. Such as more or less perfectly preserved pre-war food, books and so on decades or even centuries after the bombs fell. Never mind all the wood houses and cars that should have long ago turned to mulch and rust.

I give Fallout 1 a bit more leeway, seeing as it takes place in the very dry Midwest, which would have preserved at least some stuff better. But even then, most of the pre war items were gone and those concrete buildings that remained were crumbling away, had been military bases that had been fortified against nukes or were underground Vaults or similar.

Also the soundtrack, though that’s more of a Fallout 1/2 thing.

Some videos that might help better explain what I’m going for and which helped me nail down what I dislike about the more recent Fallout games.




 

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Someone used a Deepfake AI to make a AI-generated recording of Joshua Graham reading the entirety of Genesis.



This is just...amazingly spot on.

We need the full Bible done as well as the Lord of The Rings this is terrific...

Moving on I have been really enjoying 76 lately, is it flawless? No. But it has gotten better, I just wish we could have gotten a single player game with a story in this backdrop.
 

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I'm somewhat annoyed that the .223 pistol (That Gun) is not present in fallout 4, and probably won't show up in future Fallouts.

Its a weapon which is sufficiently famous that it even has something of an easter egg in the STALKER franchise.

Additionally the original description of the weapon implies there's at least some .223 revolver-rifles in the wasteland, so there's even weapon customization potential.
 

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I'm glad it's gone. It was already self indulgent to cram it into NV (particularly when it was just being sold out in a main shop, as a hidden Easter egg it might have been more ok), constantly sticking it in every other game would be so much worse.

Fallout games work best when there's room for the devs to reimagine various details to line up with the rest of the game (something that NV actually understood for the most part), and cluttering things up with "iconic" weapons from games that most players haven't touched fights against that theme, hard. As it did in NV, where it game dominated by old west style guns there was this one blatant Blade Runner reference sticking out like a sore thumb.
 

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Posted this in the Fallout Speedrun thread a while ago but it's a Speedrun through the entire Fallout Anthology, so Fallouts 1, 2, 3, New Vegas and 4.

A Fallout Anthology run involves playing through Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas and Fallout 4.

The video in totality is about two and a quarter hours long and while its not a record breaking speedrun, the main speedrunner, named tomatoangus provides some really fun and off the cuff commentary about the tips and techniques and glitches etc that he takes advantage of while playing through all of these games as well as flexing some impressive Fallout lore knowledge and of course amazing gameplay (and clipping) skills.



Not the fastest speedrun through the franchise but its nice with all of the commentary.
 

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Been looking over the Fallout Role Playing Game and it adds quite a few good feats for the Fallout setting in terms of Vs debates.


Kinda reminds me of 40k codex, wish Fallout got a codex for various pre war and post war factions that added new never before heard of lore.


I really want more new lore for Fallout and big chunks like the 40k codex not scraps we get from Terminals.
 

ParadiseLost

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Been looking over the Fallout Role Playing Game and it adds quite a few good feats for the Fallout setting in terms of Vs debates.


Kinda reminds me of 40k codex, wish Fallout got a codex for various pre war and post war factions that added new never before heard of lore.


I really want more new lore for Fallout and big chunks like the 40k codex not scraps we get from Terminals.

Only a decade till Fallout 5, give or take two or three years.
 

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Is the Fallout P+P rpg book worth getting?
Modphius, who publishes it, has a fairly solid 2d20 system that's fun that they modify for their various games. They also care for the IPs they license and seem to generally be fans of them based on what I've seen of their Star Trek RPG books. Also they make very nice looking books that are laid out professionally and clearly.

So it's probably worth looking into, and I think they have a free starter for folks to look over.
 

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