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No one is able to love two people the same amount.
True, but it's also impossible to love the same person the same amount; if you were to quantify love, and track it on a day-to-day basis. Most people end up having to either rekindle their relationships periodically, or find themselves drifting apart.

There are as many types of relationships as there are people on this planet, and no two are ever exactly the same. As long as everyone involved are happy, I don't see how it's anyone's business to interfere with the romantic lives of others; whether they be monogamous, polygonal, or asexual.
 

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True, but it's also impossible to love the same person the same amount; if you were to quantify love, and track it on a day-to-day basis. Most people end up having to either rekindle their relationships periodically, or find themselves drifting apart.

There are as many types of relationships as there are people on this planet, and no two are ever exactly the same. As long as everyone involved are happy, I don't see how it's anyone's business to interfere with the romantic lives of others; whether they be monogamous, polygonal, or asexual.
Monogamous relationships are challenging enough. They take work and compromise. Polygamous relationships add a whole other dimension of drama.

Besides that point, societies that promote monogamy as the only way have thrived where polygamous societies suffer from a deprivation of spouses for low-status males. Historically, this has required war to correct.
 

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I'd dispute that. Aside from my own personal experience, I'd actually use otherwise monogamous relationships as an example in the form of people who remarry after losing or divorcing their previous spouse. Of course someone can love and respect more than one person at once, but that's hardly all there is to a relationship. The thing I think they're lacking is depth. It mostly just seems to be about sex with them. I just hope they never have kids. I know that's what they want anyway, but honestly it's for the better that these people don't reproduce. ;)
Okay. I see. I am talking about couple (married and not) who engaged in "polyamory " and/or "triad" as they called it.

About remaryying. Yeah. It is to each their own. There are people who don't remarry after their spouse died and there are couple who stay married and work on their marriage and don't divorce. It depends on each couple values. What they values.

Hmmm. I don't think so. I don't think that you love and respect your spouse and/or partner if you also love and respect another person besides your spouse and/or partner. It is called cheating. Because you are committed to the person. Why would you love and respect another person and have a relationship with that person too?
Yeah. But unfortunately, these people have kids and reproduce.
 

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Monogamous relationships are challenging enough. They take work and compromise. Polygamous relationships add a whole other dimension of drama.
Relationships period add drama; romantic or otherwise. Some particularly introverted people can't even handle having a single friend, let alone a romantic relationship.

Besides that point, societies that promote monogamy as the only way have thrived where polygamous societies suffer from a deprivation of spouses for low-status males. Historically, this has required war to correct.
Okay? That's not really relevant.



Okay. I see. I am talking about couple (married and not) who engaged in "polyamory " and/or "triad" as they called it.

About remaryying. Yeah. It is to each their own. There are people who don't remarry after their spouse died and there are couple who stay married and work on their marriage and don't divorce. It depends on each couple values. What they values.

Hmmm. I don't think so. I don't think that you love and respect your spouse and/or partner if you also love and respect another person besides your spouse and/or partner. It is called cheating. Because you are committed to the person. Why would you love and respect another person and have a relationship with that person too?
Yeah. But unfortunately, these people have kids and reproduce.
Some people, when they meet that special someone, find that they can no longer maintain any other relationship. They stop taking to their friends, their family never sees them again, and they never end up having children. Others, meanwhile, are not nearly so single-minded as that, and can maintain multiple relationships of varying types at the same time.

Basically what I'm saying here is that, if you think only your significant other deserves love and respect from you, you're probably a terrible friend.
 

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True, but it's also impossible to love the same person the same amount; if you were to quantify love, and track it on a day-to-day basis. Most people end up having to either rekindle their relationships periodically, or find themselves drifting apart.

There are as many types of relationships as there are people on this planet, and no two are ever exactly the same. As long as everyone involved are happy, I don't see how it's anyone's business to interfere with the romantic lives of others; whether they be monogamous, polygonal, or asexual.
It's what you call highs and lows in a relationship. Every relationship go through highs and lows, but that's not an excuse to cheat and/or involved another person in your relationship.

Yeah. If it is only them the people who are involve in the polyamory. And they don't reproduce. But unfortunately, there are cases that kids are involve.
 

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It's what you call highs and lows in a relationship. Every relationship go through highs and lows, but that's not an excuse to cheat and/or involved another person in your relationship.

Yeah. If it is only them the people who are involve in the polyamory. And they don't reproduce. But unfortunately, there are cases that kids are involve.
I don't think you understood what I was saying. Let me ask you something; do you love your parents? Do you have any friends? Do you find it difficult to care about more than one person at the same time? In your mind, what role does sex play in a relationship?
 

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Okay? That's not really relevant.
It is. I am very libertarian, but marriage affects society at large. Polygamy destabilizes society. That has been proven by history:

Polygynist cultures need to create and sustain an underclass of unmarried and undereducated men, since in order to sustain a system where a few men possess all the women, roughly half of boys must leave the community before adulthood. Such societies also spend more money on weapons and display fewer social and political freedoms than do monogamous ones.
When small numbers of men control large numbers of women, the remaining men are likely to be willing to take greater risks and engage in more violence, possibly including terrorism, in order to increase their own wealth and status in hopes of gaining access to women.
The Problems with Polygamy
 

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My personal opinion on sex dolls is this.

If you as a woman can not out compete a litteral inanamite object then there is some thing fundamentally wrong with you.

Seriously its not a person, think of all the millions of things a human being is capable of doing. That make you a better deal then a non moving object. If dispite all of this if you think a litteral doll is a better option then you?

Then fix yourself, try being nicer to your significant other, try doing things that actually make your partners life better. This isn't rocket science litteral cave women have figured this shit out.
 

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Relationships period add drama; romantic or otherwise. Some particularly introverted people can't even handle having a single friend, let alone a romantic relationship.


Okay? That's not really relevant.




Some people, when they meet that special someone, find that they can no longer maintain any other relationship. They stop taking to their friends, their family never sees them again, and they never end up having children. Others, meanwhile, are not nearly so single-minded as that, and can maintain multiple relationships of varying types at the same time.

Basically what I'm saying here is that, if you think only your significant other deserves love and respect from you, you're probably a terrible friend.
Ahh. Okay. It is rare to me those people who have special cases. I get it that you are talking from that perspective. But that is not what I am talking about in here.
 

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I don't think you understood what I was saying. Let me ask you something; do you love your parents? Do you have any friends? Do you find it difficult to care about more than one person at the same time? In your mind, what role does sex play in a relationship?
I do. And I get that you're coming from a different perspective. You are involving relationships with your parents and friends. Yes, there are different types of relationships a person involve in. Not just one relationship. Parents, siblings, relatives, friends, teachers, employers colleague, work friends, acquitances, strangers and others. But what I am talking about in here are couples who are engage in polyamory or multiple partners.

And sex is just one aspects in a relationship. It's one piece in the whole thing.
 
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My personal opinion on sex dolls is this.

If you as a woman can not out compete a litteral inanamite object then there is some thing fundamentally wrong with you.

Seriously its not a person, think of all the millions of things a human being is capable of doing. That make you a better deal then a non moving object. If dispite all of this if you think a litteral doll is a better option then you?

Then fix yourself, try being nicer to your significant other, try doing things that actually make your partners life better. This isn't rocket science litteral cave women have figured this shit out.
I wonder sometimes how much it has to do with competition. We're talking about people like those evil incels they wouldn't want to touch anyway. I think it actually has more to do with demonizing male sexuality. Think about it, whether it's sex dolls or porn, these busybodies are trying to get rid of these outlets. And then they wonder why they get called man-haters? ;)

Real fun, though, would be to propose that their sexual outlets get treated the same way - let's go back to banning dildos and vibrators and the like and see how they like it. :LOL:
 

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As long as everyone involved are happy, I don't see how it's anyone's business to interfere with the romantic lives of others; whether they be monogamous, polygonal, or asexual.
Sure, legally. But society will always promote something, and what should be financially and socially promoted is monogamy. It leads to much better outcomes overall and healthier marriages and relationships, especially as it relates to raising kids and the family which shouldn't even be questioned by society as something you should absolutely do.
 

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Sure, legally. But society will always promote something, and what should be financially and socially promoted is monogamy. It leads to much better outcomes overall and healthier marriages and relationships, especially as it relates to raising kids and the family which shouldn't even be questioned by society as something you should absolutely do.
I'm okay with that; as long as nobody is talking about punishing people who don't practice monogamy, or otherwise forcing them to do so. Honestly though, having parents who practice polygyny seems like it would be the least of a kid's problems, considering what often passes as parenting these days.
 

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I'm okay with that; as long as nobody is talking about punishing people who don't practice monogamy, or otherwise forcing them to do so. Honestly though, having parents who practice polygyny seems like it would be the least of a kid's problems, considering what often passes as parenting these days.
It is any kid's biggest problem.
I believe every man and woman should fight this third wave feminism agenda and this degeneracy. Don't bend to these.
 

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Monogamy is one of the foundations that civilization is built on. It is so important not only in regard to making a stable environment for children, but for maintaining peaceful relationships between and within the sexes. That doesn’t mean that everyone has to be monogamous, we have always had exceptions, but as those exceptions become more common then civilization starts to break down.

We are having that now. We don’t practice old time polygyny, but modern promiscuity is a kind of serial polygyny where some guys, the “alphas” or “chads”, get most of the women while other less attractive guys get little female attention.

This problem is massively exacerbated by the welfare state and numerous laws which encourage female misbehavior. If, for example, we had a libertarian society, women who get pregnant from scum bags would have no recourse when that guy walks out on them and leaves them with a baby they can’t take care of. But now that we have welfare and forced child support, the state mitigates the negative consequences of women succumbing to the worst aspects of their nature.

On some basic animal level, humans want polygyny, like so many other mammals practice. Women want the alpha’s babies and men want a harem. The problem is that the “alphas” aren’t always the best guys. Sometimes they are just useless wastes of organic material who for some inexplicable reason can turn on girls. Like human peacocks. If those guys are going to have harems, both them and their concubines are going to need the financial support of “beta” males who are often way higher in quality even if they don’t have the same mating display as the peacocks.

With left wingers casting out all the old social values which have allowed civilization to exist for thousands of years, modern people are forced to reinvent the wheel as they learn that those values actually existed for a reason.

Free love is a myth, a liberal fantasy. Marriage exists for a reason. Jealousy exists for a reason. Gender roles exist for a reason. Pretending that free love can exist just leads to exploitation.

We would probably be better off with formally recognized polygynous marriage, like Muslims or fundamentalist Mormons, than we would with casting away marital fidelity entirely which is the current trend. Then the situation is entered into honestly and with greater stability rather.
 

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In an interview with the Telegraph last year, she said: "We now know long-term relationships are harder on female desire than they are on male desire.

"Many experts now believe monogamy is a tighter fit for women than for men."
Speaks for itself.

Men. Let your wife fuck chad for christmas. Preferably an immigrant chad :D
 

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Speaks for itself.

Men. Let your wife fuck chad for christmas. Preferably an immigrant chad :D
Did this guy just say that women are hornier than men?

Kinda spitting on the near-Women are saints & angels sort of thing that Feminism’s got to make them better than all the horrible disgusting mysogynistic men
 
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