Marvel Every Star Destroyer and TIE Fighter in Marvel's Star Wars: Allegiance is a fan copy

[CarlManvers2019]

I think this is yet another example of a company not understanding the audience they have, or being arrogant enough to think they can alienate the existing audience because they think they're going to replace them with a new audience.

I am pretty sure that Marvel Comics has lost its ambition or desire to be known for selling lots of great comics

The MCU and the Star Wars New Sequels helped with that

The comics are just a side project and they don’t care that they are not successful

 

[Battlegrinder]

I don't think copyright law is really quite prepared to handle that kind of question. But using it in a Star Wars context like that creates art which is definitely incorporating Disney's property...

Sure, it's incorporating Disney property, but that doesn't mean the fan ship becomes Disney IP merely through proximity.

 

[Laskar]

The weirdest part is that it's not even the most recent snowspeeder model, that's the very first one back from 1999 when Lego started making SW sets. It's practically ancient as far as lego sets go, and I cannot fathom why you'd pick that one specific set to copy, or where you'd even find a 3D model of it in the first place (and a half completed model, at that).

Yeah, I know. I think I had that model when I was a kid. If I didn't, my brother did.
I know the Lego company fooled around with digital brickbuilding games like Lego: Creator and a web application that let you design your own sets, but I don't know how the snowspeeder got into either of those programs, or how the partially-complete model would land in the artists' lap.

How? How did this happen?

 

[Battlegrinder]

I know the Lego company fooled around with digital brickbuilding games like Lego: Creator and a web application that let you design your own sets, but I don't know how the snowspeeder got into either of those programs, or how the partially-complete model would land in the artists' lap.

Oh, yeah, Lego Digital Designer. That was pretty neat, though when they cut the feature that let you buy all the bricks needed to build you LDD model I think it lost a lot of utility.

As for how this model got into it, if that's what they used, I'd assume someone built it in LDD and uploaded the model, I know there were lots of people doing that (presumably as a reference for people who want to build those models but didn't have the instructions).

 

[Vargas Fan]

It does make you wonder how some got away with it in times past....

 

[CarlManvers2019]

It does make you wonder how some got away with it in times past....

Can’t see the pic, its just a small empty square

 

[Erwin_Pommel]

Can’t see the pic, its just a small empty square

 

[Captain X]

While it' vaguely the same shape, at least it isn't straight-up traced from a screencap or something.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

While it' vaguely the same shape, at least it isn't straight-up traced from a screencap or something.

It also looks like its got gold jewelry over it or something

 

[Vargas Fan]

While it' vaguely the same shape, at least it isn't straight-up traced from a screencap or something.

The interior art was far more simplified and looked a lot more like an Executor. I have the entire run and could get a picture later on. Funnily enough, the same issue featured a Space:1999 Eagle Transporter and another issue had a Nebulon B frigate in the interior art.

About 50% approximately of the comics run used agency art that already existed prior to the print.

 

[Laskar]

It does make you wonder how some got away with it in times past....

Perhaps it's because that's a British publication, and the artist changed enough that it's not quite a lift? It's got four engines instead of three large ones and a bunch of smaller engines, and the superstructure is changed enough that Lucasfilm might actually have to go to court to prove the similarities are enough to violate copyright law?

Oh, yeah, Lego Digital Designer. That was pretty neat, though when they cut the feature that let you buy all the bricks needed to build you LDD model I think it lost a lot of utility.

As for how this model got into it, if that's what they used, I'd assume someone built it in LDD and uploaded the model, I know there were lots of people doing that (presumably as a reference for people who want to build those models but didn't have the instructions).

But then the artist has to go to the trouble of exporting that model from whatever format LDD used, and then combine that model with whatever other model he stole for the flying Helicarrier dock.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Whelp, the theft keeps on coming.



They also messed up the Star Destroyer designs... oh well.

It's not just Marvel Comics f'ing up though and being "inspired/lifted totally," but officially commissioned Star Wars posters for the upcoming movie.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Man, Disney would be having fits if he was present for this.

 

[Husky_Khan]

In case you were wondering if Star Wars still steals fan art for official use...



Star Wars does still steal fan art for official use.

This time it focused on how Fantasy Flight Games stole cover art for its Star Wars RPG book.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

With such levels of laziness they'll inevitably try to pass a Covenant ship as a Mon Calamari one and get sued by Microsoft

 

[Husky_Khan]

It's been over a year... has Disney still been stealing fan art?

The answer is Yes.

Are they doing it for animations now as well?

That answer is also yes!

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Disney continues their downward spiral into theft and creative sterility. What else is new? I can only hope they collapse within the next ten years. The industries themselves, not western society, need a Great Reset, one where they are broken up, forbidden from reunifying under any pretext, and banned from accquiring new IPs save for rent and what they create themselves.

 

[ShadowsOfParadox]

It's worth noting for those wondering about legality.

It's entirely illegal.

How do we know this? Simple, why are games like Battle for Middle Earth no longer available? Because EA no longer has the license and the guys who own Lord of the Rings don't own Battle for Middle Earth. Similarly, authors usually avoid being anywhere near fanfic so they never have an opportunity to copy the fanfic because doing so would open them up to being sued. And yes, that has actually happened. Just because the fanwork is art doesn't mean the fan artist doesn't, in fact, own the specific thing they made.

 

[Vargas Fan]

It's worth noting for those wondering about legality.

It's entirely illegal.

How do we know this? Simple, why are games like Battle for Middle Earth no longer available? Because EA no longer has the license and the guys who own Lord of the Rings don't own Battle for Middle Earth. Similarly, authors usually avoid being anywhere near fanfic so they never have an opportunity to copy the fanfic because doing so would open them up to being sued. And yes, that has actually happened. Just because the fanwork is art doesn't mean the fan artist doesn't, in fact, own the specific thing they made.

The same has happened with some Telltale games. You can still buy Walking Dead easily enough because it was available right up until Telltale went out, but try getting their Guardians of the Galaxy game??

Ditto with the Deadpool action game for PC and consoles, not easy to get at all, especially on PC.

 

[LindyAF]

How do we know this? Simple, why are games like Battle for Middle Earth no longer available? Because EA no longer has the license and the guys who own Lord of the Rings don't own Battle for Middle Earth. Similarly, authors usually avoid being anywhere near fanfic so they never have an opportunity to copy the fanfic because doing so would open them up to being sued. And yes, that has actually happened. Just because the fanwork is art doesn't mean the fan artist doesn't, in fact, own the specific thing they made.

IIRC this was actually just a threatened lawsuit or the plaintiff lost.

IP that was created as part of a deal that's no longer on is pretty obviously different.