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ATP

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The Soviets and Russians saw Siberia as their territory, and at the time that area was under the control of parts of the white movement and the western intervention/occupation was seen as an invasion.The Japanese were basically opportunist expansionists.


We will not spy on your embassy, honest!
Said every unfriendly country ever.


Stalin wanted a sphere of influence/buffer, and most of the nonsense discussed prior to the end of WWII was just bullshit, IMHO.
I think in his memoirs Churchill just said he doesn't believe that any of the agreements for a post-War world would stick and the USA helped remilitarize Germany and Japan in short order.


That was North Vietnam, not the USSR.The soviets had a hell of a lot less control over there than you would think, and like with the case of Siberia the North Vietnamese saw it as national liberation and unification and kicking out the West's colonial puppets.
The North Vietnamese were driven primarily by nationalism and anti-western sentiment and Marxism and other such crap came a distant 4th, or 5th, right after their long-standing animosity with China and the desire to kick out the people who had:
Stolen their land.
Put in a nasty secret police.
Treated them as 2nd class citizens.
Tried to force a foreign religion onto them.
Made them uproot and move.
Bombed them.
Poisoned their land with Agent orange and burned much of their forests with napalm.
Killed their own puppet president in the South and replaced him with a military junta.





I will sort of give you 1 in 4, thanks to as you call him "Sralin".
I assume that means Shitter in Polish as it does in Bulgarian?

1.soviets do not cared about russian territories,they wanted entire world.Look at their crest.

2.But preparing revolution in other country is something else.Which soviet did.

3.Sralin wanted entire world,not sphere of influence.Only reason why he murdered "only" 200.000 of poles after 1945 compare to 5-10 miions of soviets killed by NKWD in that period,was becouse we would made uprising if he try so - and he prepared WW3 to take over Europe.

4.South Vietnam was paradise compared to North,so commies enslaved people there.People becomes catholics from 17th century on their free wil,and many times died for God there.And commies bring another,worst foreign religion - communism.
And soviets owned them,they would not start anything without their order.

Poland case - we made peace in 1921,soviets promised peace and not sending agents.We exiled russians and ukrainian anticommies,soviets paid their commies to attack Poland till 1939.
In 1939 started war against us with their german allies.
They genocided at least 500.000 poles til 1945.And enslaved us after that.

Our Home Army was ordered to help them as allies,so they did so.After each schared victory soviets send them to gulags or massgraves.

P.S yes,Sralin mean shitter.

Funny, I would have said the same about a so-called libertarian/American right-winger defending Ukrainian national socialists. :ROFLMAO:
It is called 'reality', sorry I'd your preferred narrative about international relations and stuff like the Vietnam war do not fit with it.

You do not undarstandt what reality means.South Vietnam was corrupted place,but compared to Noth they were stil paradise.Reality mean that we take lesser evil,not not -existing right.

Just like on Ukraine now.We could choose either strong KGB mafia which belive that ukrainians and belarussians do not exist,and poles should not exist,or weak ukrainian nationalist which barely could defend themselves.

Of course,that we support Ukraine.They could not genocide us when they win,but kgbstan woud do so.
 
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Agent23

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Okay! This will be a stern verbal warning not just for you but everyone who sees it so take heed.

The staff are not maids to be called to clean up derail messes at will especially if you were a big
contributor in making or maintaining that derail to begin with and have a history of regularly refusing to disengage when you have every opportunity to turn up your nose, walk away, then report those you feel may be attempting to bait you.

Furthermore, the fact that you only call us at the tail end of a debate that you initiated comes across as you weaponizing the staff to get the last word in, a fact that be it intentional or otherwise we aren't amused about in the slightest.

Bottomline we won't accept this being a repeated thing
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The staff would also like to demand a little bit of respect as we aren't
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You need our help? Thats fine but we would rather help with accidents over
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My problem is not as much with @ATP even if he is dragging the discussion slightly off topic.
My problem is with the DebilZov crybabies attempting to fling ad hominem spam at me.
 

Agent23

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Back on topic.Saudi Arabia is buying Russian oil.
They claim it is for domestic consumption and power generation, but maybe some private refineries are laundering it like it is happening in India.


Current year, the term oil laundering becomes a thing.

Peak clown world when?

In any case, according to Agorism black markets are free markets, mainly because they are more efficient than the regulated ones.
 

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My problem is not as much with @ATP even if he is dragging the discussion slightly off topic.
My problem is with the DebilZov crybabies attempting to fling ad hominem spam at me.
I don't care, as far as I am concerned you are both a part of the derail problem and now, I request you both man up and both be part of the solution.

You have a problem with ATP? report it. You don't have a problem that's against the rules? Then don't make one for others by helping break the rules yourself by causing a derail, it is a pretty simple thing to avoid.

This is my last post on the issue don't argue. If you think this is unfair go to staff comms and take it up with a higher mod or Lord Sunhawk.
 
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DarthOne

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We Are Going To See Energy Prices Go Absolutely Nuts This Winter Just As We Plunge Into A Horrifying Global Economic Crisis


How would you feel if your power bill went up by 50 percent this winter? How about 100 percent? Unfortunately, these kinds of price increases are already being announced. The world was heading into a major energy crisis even before the war in Ukraine started, and now that conflict threatens to create an extremely severe energy crunch that would have been unimaginable just a couple of years ago. If some sort of a miracle doesn’t happen, it is going to be a really, really cold winter for countless people in the western world.

The Russians have been trying to use energy as leverage, and on Monday they announced that the amount of natural gas flowing through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline will be reduced “to just 20% of its capacity”

The Biden administration is working furiously behind the scenes to keep European allies united against Russia as Moscow further cuts its energy supplies to the European Union, prompting panic on both sides of the Atlantic over potentially severe gas shortages heading into winter, US officials say.
On Monday, Russia’s state-owned gas company Gazprom said it would cut flows through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline to Germany in half, to just 20% of its capacity. A US official said the move was retaliation for western sanctions, and that it put the West in “unchartered territory” when it comes to whether Europe will have enough gas to get through the winter.
In essence, Vladimir Putin is “turning the screws”, and it may just be a matter of time before he cuts off the gas completely.

The Europeans never should have allowed themselves to become so dependent on Russian energy, and now a major crisis is staring them in the face.

Last Wednesday, a modest rationing plan for the member states of the EU was introduced

The “Save Gas for a Safe Winter” plan announced Wednesday sets a target for the 27 member states to reduce their gas demand by 15% between August and March next year. That reduction is based on countries’ average gas consumption during the same months over the previous five years.
The plan is focused on curtailing demand by businesses and in public buildings, rather than private homes. Among the proposed measures, the EU Commission is encouraging industry to switch to alternate energy sources — including coal where necessary — and to introduce auction systems that compensate companies for reducing their gas consumption.
Of course such a plan is going to be almost impossible to enforce, and even if all of the member states meet their goals it still won’t be enough if the Russians stop the flow of gas entirely.

The U.S. has been ramping up exports to Europe in an effort to help, and one official is openly admitting that this could cause a dramatic increase in prices here in the United States

“This was our biggest fear,” said the US official. The impact on Europe could boomerang back onto the US, spiking natural gas and electricity prices, the official said. It will also be a major test of European resilience and unity against Russia, as the Kremlin shows no signs of retreating from Ukraine.
Sadly, we are already starting to see the price of natural gas rise to very alarming levels.

According to Wolf Richter, the price of U.S. natural gas has “more than doubled” over the past year…

So here we go again. This morning, natural gas futures jumped to $8.29 per million Btu, adding to the jumps over the past week. The price has regained much of the lost spike, and is up about 30% from a month ago, and has more than doubled from a year ago.
Ouch.

Needless to say, U.S. consumers are going to be feeling a tremendous amount of pain this winter.

For example, just check out the rate hikes that were just announced in New Hampshire

Electricity bills in New Hampshire are about to get higher.
Eversource is raising its energy supply rate by about 50% on Aug. 1. With customers using, on average, 25% more energy in the summer, a typical customer could expect to see a $70 monthly increase, the utility said.
The energy service rate for New Hampshire Electric Co-op will go up 77%, Liberty Utilities will jump 100% and Eversource’s rate will rise by 112%.
In the coming months, we will see similar rate hikes all over the nation.

So are you ready for your power bill to soar into the stratosphere?

And all of this comes at a time when the percentage of U.S. adults that are “having difficulties paying their bills” has just hit a brand new high…

The share of Americans who report having difficulties paying their bills has surpassed its 2020 pandemic peak in a US Census Bureau survey, underscoring the toll of soaring prices on budgets.
Four in ten adults said it has been somewhat or very difficult to cover usual household expenses in a poll conducted end of June and early July. That’s the highest since the Census started asking the question in August 2020. It implies that more than 90 million families are struggling, up from about 60 million a year ago.
As I discussed yesterday, a recession in the United States is already here.

See also Can Someone Please Explain What’s Going On?
Will the entire world soon follow?

On Tuesday, the IMF warned that we could be on the verge of a major global economic slowdown

The global economy is already in trouble, yet risks keep piling up.
In a report released Tuesday, the International Monetary Fund once again lowered its world economic forecast as it predicted major slowdowns in the three biggest economies: the United States, China and Europe.
Those downturns, combined with the ongoing war in Ukraine, inflation surging faster than expected, and tighter monetary policy around the world have continued to slam the already fragile global economy, it said.
It is often said that “energy is the economy”, and global supplies of energy just keep getting tighter and tighter.

There isn’t any short-term help on the horizon, and if we stay on the path that we are on this new global energy crisis is just going to get worse and worse.

Of course there is also the possibility that something could come along that could greatly accelerate our energy problems.

A Chinese invasion of Taiwan is likely to happen at some point, and I have been warning that a war between Israel and Iran will erupt sooner rather than later.

In either case, our new global energy crisis would rapidly evolve into a global energy nightmare.

So enjoy this relatively quiet summer while you still can, because I have a feeling that this upcoming winter is going to be quite crazy.



After this, there is zero argument to be made that democrats don't purposely suppress the economy for their masters to speculate in the markets and ruin good hard working white folks so their livelihoods can be stolen and bought up on the cheap.

This is literally purposely causing shortages through govt policy and using the foreknowledge to profit from the results. This isn't capitalism, it is a scam meant to fleece useful idiots of their wealth by evil people who provide no good, and their only means of making money is from money.

And spitting in the face of every American praising high gas prices as incentive to buy an electric vehicle. Egregiously out of touch and just shitting on those of us struggling. Any politician who pulls this shit ought to drive their Tesla off a cliff to spare us the misery of listening to their bullshit.
 

Sobek

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The crisis isn't a accident, they planned it. They are delusional enough to think they can just engineer it and then provide the exact solutions they have planned for and have it work.

The WEF honestly thinks they can just burn it all and people will let them be in charge of the building back.
 

Cherico

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The crisis isn't a accident, they planned it. They are delusional enough to think they can just engineer it and then provide the exact solutions they have planned for and have it work.

The WEF honestly thinks they can just burn it all and people will let them be in charge of the building back.

To be fair it might have worked 20 years ago but over the last 20 the establishment across the world has burned their political capital like crazy. I honestly think we are hitting a pretty major crisis point soon.
 

DarthOne

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To be fair it might have worked 20 years ago but over the last 20 the establishment across the world has burned their political capital like crazy. I honestly think we are hitting a pretty major crisis point soon.

They might yet be able to pull it off, unless patriots manage to overthrow their stooges and stop those too blinded to see from helping the WEF.
 

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