Business & Finance Economic Fallout: Pandemic, Brandon, Money Printer Go Brr, Ukraine.

Terthna

Terthna

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Cherico said:
To be fair we didn't want to be in this situation no one did, but some Serbian asshole looked around saw a peaceful europe and proceded to fuck up everything.

And then after that when there was a defensible situation and everything was slowly rebuilding an austrian cunt with a bad mustash went out and fucked up everything.

Then the communists took up pretty much all of eastern europe and we here in america realized holy shit the euroes have shit the bed completely and were going to have to carry everything, and then the Russians pointed nukes at us and we pointed it at them and we got to have the absolute fun time of having them merryly set fires to every thing they could.

Could we have been nicer during the 90s? We could have been a fuck load meaner, most of the damage Russia is suffering is self inflicted, which you know is pretty much Russian history in a nutshell because no one has ever fucked Russia as hard as Russia.
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If we hadn't kept expanding NATO, I don't think this would be happening right now. At the very least, we might have avoided so many dead Ukrainians.



Tiamat said:
I would really, really like to know why you are so hellbent on sucking up to Russia (sorry, I can't put it any other way), while endlessly blackpilling, conspiracy talk and piling doom on the US at every turn. Hell, I'm the impression you WANT to see Russia expand the borders to the Vistula, and see that the US turns into a Balkanized hellhole, because in your mind, the US deserves it, right???
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I have been pushing incredibly hard against the prevailing narrative regarding what's been going down in Ukraine, so I don't begrudge you or anyone else for getting the impression that I'm "sucking up to Russia". That said, I don't actually approve of what Russia is doing right now; I just understand why they're doing it, and don't think we have any right to condemn them. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and all that.

I am something of an isolationist; I am not a fan of America's tendency towards military adventurism, and would rather we spend our resources pulling our country out of the downward spiral it's been in for decades (with a brief four-year pause thanks to Trump). It's not a question of who deserves what; it's a question of justification, and Russia has theirs to be doing what they're doing in Ukraine thanks to our government.



Cherico said:
To be fair to her, during the ending days of a modern period pretty much anything that can be called establishment leadership becomes some kind of cultish moronic asshole. Its really hard to see this as the civilizational problem it is instead of just mearly a national one.

Ideally people would just get their heads out of their assholes and stop trying to micromanage other peoples lives and live and let live but we do not live in an ideal world.
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Was that a mistype, or do I actually come across as a girl?



LordsFire said:
I am getting really sick of you claiming this is true, while refusing to present any kind of evidence that it was a US-instigated coup, rather than a local coup removing a Russian puppet that the US/west supported.

As the saying goes, either shit or get off the pot.
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I am not saying it was instigated by the United States; because while I strongly suspect that's the case, I haven't found anything conclusive enough as of yet. What I said was that the United States government supported it, which is blatantly obvious both from how mainstream media coverage over here insisted on painting the coup forces in the most positive light possible, as well as the simple fact that that they were immediately recognized as the new legitimate government of Ukraine by the west once they had taken control.
 
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Cherico

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Terthna said:
If we hadn't kept expanding NATO, I don't think this would be happening right now. At the very least, we might have avoided so many dead Ukrainians.




I have been pushing incredibly hard against the prevailing narrative regarding what's been going down in Ukraine, so I don't begrudge you or anyone else for getting the impression that I'm "sucking up to Russia". That said, I don't actually approve of what Russia is doing right now; I just understand why they're doing it, and don't think we have any right to condemn them. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and all that.

I am something of an isolationist; I am not a fan of America's tendency towards military adventurism, and would rather we spend our resources pulling our country out of the downward spiral it's been in for decades (with a brief four-year pause thanks to Trump). It's not a question of who deserves what; it's a question of justification, and Russia has theirs to be doing what they're doing in Ukraine thanks to our government.




Was that a mistype, or do I actually come across as a girl?




I am not saying it was instigated by the United States; because while I strongly suspect that's the case, I haven't found anything conclusive enough as of yet. What I said was that the United States government supported it, which is blatantly obvious both from how mainstream media coverage over here insisted on painting the coup forces in the most positive light possible, as well as the simple fact that that they were immediately recognized as the new legitimate government of Ukraine by the west once they had taken control.
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your not a girl? huh sorry about that.
 
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Cherico

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Terthna said:
You're actually not the first person to make that mistake; there's a Nanoha fanfic floating around on fanfiction.net that references a comment I made on one of the chapters in the Author's Notes section of the next chapter following it, in which the author refers to me as a girl.
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I grew up in the barrio names ending In A register as feminine to me, and names ending in O register as male.

Its not on purpose but habits like that are hard to break.
 
LordsFire

LordsFire

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Terthna said:
I am not saying it was instigated by the United States; because while I strongly suspect that's the case, I haven't found anything conclusive enough as of yet. What I said was that the United States government supported it, which is blatantly obvious both from how mainstream media coverage over here insisted on painting the coup forces in the most positive light possible, as well as the simple fact that that they were immediately recognized as the new legitimate government of Ukraine by the west once they had taken control.
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If the ruler prior to the 2014 coup was in fact a Russian puppet (last I checked he fled into Russia after the coup), then supporting and celebrating a domestic coup against a foreign-controlled puppet is virtuous.

Recognizing the replacement may be more questionable, given he's not necessarily going to be less corrupt, but it will help provide stability.
 
Lord Sovereign

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
Terthna said:
If we hadn't kept expanding NATO
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Then Russia would have swallowed up Eastern Europe. Russia's nature is imperial and expansionist, hence why everyone from Poland to Estonia, people who know what the Russians are like, came running to us the first chance they got.

Why do you feel the need to give The. Sodding. Kremlin. any sort of justification for this? Is "owning the libs" really that important?
 
Simonbob

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Lord Sovereign said:
Then Russia would have swallowed up Eastern Europe. Russia's nature is imperial and expansionist, hence why everyone from Poland to Estonia, people who know what the Russians are like, came running to us the first chance they got.

Why do you feel the need to give The. Sodding. Kremlin. any sort of justification for this? Is "owning the libs" really that important?
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As best I can tell? Russia's less imperial than the West.

That's what we're saying.
 
Lord Sovereign

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
Simonbob said:
As best I can tell? Russia's less imperial than the West.

That's what we're saying.
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Good God, that gave me a stroke. You do not understand Russia at all if you think that. They'd roll tanks across the whole of Europe if they could get away with it because Russia is, has always been, and will always be, an empire. Wokery and what happened in Bucha are not on the same sodding page.
 
The One Char

The One Char

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Lord Sovereign said:
Good God, that gave me a stroke. You do not understand Russia at all if you think that. They'd roll tanks across the whole of Europe if they could get away with it because Russia is, has always been, and will always be, an empire. Wokery and what happened in Bucha are not on the same sodding page.
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Wokery is worse because Imperialism doesn't produce 1984 as a best case scenario and reduce humanity 500,000 slaves ruled over by geriatric techno-god-kings as a worst case scenario.


LordsFire said:
I'm sorry, but how on earth do you justify this?

Where are the German puppet-states? The French? The English? The American?

Because it isn't hard to point out Russian puppet states and near-puppet states.
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The west is a puppet of the WEF.
 
Lord Sovereign

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
The One Char said:
Good to know you haven't been paying attention to the last two years, conspiracy theories are coming true.
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Some bits, yes. Other bits...not so much. You've picked up on trends, but have extrapolated those into something reminiscent of the plot of a James Bond book.
 
The One Char

The One Char

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Lord Sovereign said:
Some bits, yes. Other bits...not so much. You've picked up on trends, but have extrapolated those into something reminiscent of the plot of a James Bond book.
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Considering Klaus Schwab was seen dressing up as a Bond villain, if the shoe fits...

Also, just because the tech side of their plans aren't gonna pan out and their their immortally nothing more than mountains of drugs in the hope of keeping the reaper away for one more day. doesn't mean they can't kill billions before the lynch mob comes for them and/or New Zealand gets carpet nuked while they're on it.
 
Arch Dornan

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Terthna said:
I am not saying it was instigated by the United States; because while I strongly suspect that's the case, I haven't found anything conclusive enough as of yet. What I said was that the United States government supported it, which is blatantly obvious both from how mainstream media coverage over here insisted on painting the coup forces in the most positive light possible, as well as the simple fact that that they were immediately recognized as the new legitimate government of Ukraine by the west once they had taken control.
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The best I found were records that include Nuland and someone else supporting their preferred candidate in Ukraine while saying fuck the EU for dragging their feet. Nothing about a coup but they supported a candidate they liked. Pretty much how it goes with those kind of affairs.
 
Simonbob

Simonbob

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Gee, what's this?

www.smithsonianmag.com

This Map Shows Where in the World the U.S. Military Is Combatting Terrorism

The infographic reveals for the first time that the U.S. is now operating in 40 percent of the world's nations
www.smithsonianmag.com www.smithsonianmag.com

This says there are US troops in 40% of all the Worlds nations.



I wonder, just how many wars and invasions the US has done, since the fall of the USSR?

Timeline of United States military operations - Infogalactic: the planetary knowledge core

infogalactic.com infogalactic.com

More than 30, although many are minor.

Iraq, Haiti, Afghanistan, Iraq again, Syria, and a whole bunch of others, are not. "Regime change" has been tried a bunch of times, and since South Korea, every single time has been a disaster. Regime change, of course, is the toppling an existing govenment, in favor to one the US likes better.

Oh, and I'll point out, this is pure military, not counting whatever the State Dep or CIA has been doing.



Face it. The US is a massive empire. Americans just don't like to admit it.
 
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