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Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
unfortunately regime change has generally ended with an even worse government in place for the last 2 decades or so. after Ghadaffi got Ghadaffied (death by sodomy with a bayonet) the Libyan slave trade started back up. 20 years of blood and trillions of dollars have resulted in afganistan being controlled by a more extreme taliban. I think that trying that with a country with loads of nukes is a terrible idea.
It doesn't have to be by force you know.

They're just going to continue pressuring Russia through economic and cultural means even after Putin passes off the mortal coil until Western friendly Russians get into power to be their next Boris Yeltsin.

Much like how Imran Khan got forced out because he didn't pick their side.
 

Simonbob

Well-known member
It doesn't have to be by force you know.

They're just going to continue pressuring Russia through economic and cultural means even after Putin passes off the mortal coil until Western friendly Russians get into power to be their next Boris Yeltsin.

Much like how Imran Khan got forced out because he didn't pick their side.

Well, they're going to try.

Putin's 70, so he might not last too much longer, but, well, he might well last 15 years or more, too. He might go looking for a heir, heck, he might have one now.


If Putin nukes somebody, then is "cooped" into retirement, what will the West do? How far will they go?



I'm lucky I live in Australia. There's very little chance I'm on the target list.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Well, they're going to try.

Putin's 70, so he might not last too much longer, but, well, he might well last 15 years or more, too. He might go looking for a heir, heck, he might have one now.


If Putin nukes somebody, then is "cooped" into retirement, what will the West do? How far will they go?



I'm lucky I live in Australia. There's very little chance I'm on the target list.
Of course they would. How else are they going to implement their green agenda?
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
What does it mean, then, when you back a violent coup that overthrows the previous government, and replaces it with one more likely to acquiesce to our country's demands? Just because America managed to avoid getting its own hands dirty, does not mean that the dirt isn't still there; we invaded first.

I am getting really sick of you claiming this is true, while refusing to present any kind of evidence that it was a US-instigated coup, rather than a local coup removing a Russian puppet that the US/west supported.

As the saying goes, either shit or get off the pot.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
I am getting really sick of you claiming this is true, while refusing to present any kind of evidence that it was a US-instigated coup, rather than a local coup removing a Russian puppet that the US/west supported.

As the saying goes, either shit or get off the pot.
Uh, in the end, the difference between the two is rather moot, because the effect is the same.

Russia is not justified in thier invasion of Ukraine, and is effectively being cut off from a major part of thier supply chains as punishment for it.

However, that doesn't change that the US was fucking around in Ukraine even before the Maidan kicked off, and I have little doubt the US State Dept and clandestine services were involved in helping organize and escalate the Maidan.
 
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ProfessorCurio

MadScientist
Doesn't help that the people in Commiefornia imported fucking Eucalyptus trees back in the late 19th century.
Oh don't bash the poor darlings too hard, they are useful and have their place,
planted no nearer than a good ways away from any of the forests and dry fields.

I recommend burying the dry broken limbs at least 6 feet under to make sure they don't come back.

On a more serious note:
They smell nice, sometimes look nice as well, they can find gold, reduce local salinity (or if you are not careful make a draught worse), produce vibrant dyes, be turned into paper, repel at least some of the biting insect hoards, and even be used as an ingredient in foods and toothpaste.
 
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Blasterbot

Well-known member
Oh don't bash the poor darlings too hard, they are useful and have their place,
planted no nearer than a good ways away from any of the forests and dry fields.

I recommend burying the dry broken limbs at least 6 feet under to make sure they don't come back.

On a more serious note:
They smell nice, sometimes look nice as well, they can find gold, reduce local salinity (or if you are not careful make a draught worse), produce vibrant dyes, be turned into paper, repel at least some of the biting insect hoards, and even be used as an ingredient in foods and toothpaste.
all at the low low con of being extremely flammable and reproducing best in brush fires. like a fair amount of california's native wildlife. certainly this is the best plan.
 

Jouaint

Well-known member


Some real sus fires going on...

Carl actually states multiple times in the video he thinks the fires are just the work of normal accidents and incompetence since these places do have a lot of highly flammable materials in them and fires are relatively common. He thinks people are just experiencing selection bias since they are actually starting to notice and pay attention to this sort of thing.

I'm not sure if I necessarily agree with his conclusions but he did bring up some good points that made me think I need to reassess the situation to better form my own.
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
It less planned famine and more of unintended consequences are going to bite us in the ass. We have several factors here, with the biggest one in my opinion being managerialism, mangers today are totally interchangeable, usually don't know much about the industry they currently work in and worship cost cutting. It's easy to cut costs in maintenance and training, it doesn't show in productivity immediately, so the buck can passed from one financial period to another, until the manager goes to another job and another of same mould takes over ans continues the same way. And then came the kung-flu shutdowns, which pushed all the problems into overdrive and here we are.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
It less planned famine and more of unintended consequences are going to bite us in the ass. We have several factors here, with the biggest one in my opinion being managerialism, mangers today are totally interchangeable, usually don't know much about the industry they currently work in and worship cost cutting. It's easy to cut costs in maintenance and training, it doesn't show in productivity immediately, so the buck can passed from one financial period to another, until the manager goes to another job and another of same mould takes over ans continues the same way. And then came the kung-flu shutdowns, which pushed all the problems into overdrive and here we are.

its not just farming either we have a managerial class that is completely removed from how their industry or system works in every bit of our economy.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
its not just farming either we have a managerial class that is completely removed from how their industry or system works in every bit of our economy.

This is basically a result of the corruption of academic institutions.

You both have the students being taught less useful things, and more destructive indoctrination into false ideologies, combined with 'in-group' development.

To members of the Ivy-League educated elite, if you aren't educated at the same institutions, if you don't have the 'right' opinions, they don't want you as part of their club. And for every institution they capture, they expand the power their club holds.

Further, while they might think that people from 'lesser' colleges aren't properly part of the club, they do consider such people at least people, and thus worthy of middle-management jobs and the like. The schmucks who don't even have MBAs from a decent state school? Who, for some inane reason, think that they should be able to get promoted up from among the uneducated masses?

They might as well not apply at all.


Thus, every business that hits a point where it's mostly led and managed by the social elite and managerial classes, becomes closed to anyone else. Other perspectives and methods of thinking aren't accepted.

And the entire 'club' and hangers-on gets more and more detached from reality.
 

ProfessorCurio

MadScientist
all at the low low con of being extremely flammable and reproducing best in brush fires. like a fair amount of california's native wildlife. certainly this is the best plan.
Why do you think I mentioned planting away from forests and dry fields?
I was acknowledging the flammability while giving some examples of how placement matters and the flammability risks can be mitigated.
Little things like keeping them isolated from areas dense in flammable plant life, not grouping them close together, and not planting in already relatively dry fields do make a difference.
Most importantly and here's something you should know if you read the Wikipedia article Do Not Plant In Draught Conditions Or Areas Prone To Draughts because they can literally lower a local water table fairly easily when in abundance and will make things dryer due to how much water their extensive roots tend to suck up.

"Some eucalyptus species have attracted attention from horticulturists, global development researchers, and environmentalists because of desirable traits such as being fast-growing sources of wood, producing oil that can be used for cleaning and as a natural insecticide, or an ability to be used to drain swamps and thereby reduce the risk of malaria. Eucalyptus oil finds many uses like in fuels, fragrances, insect repellance and antimicrobial activity. Eucalyptus trees show allelopathic effects; they release compounds which inhibit other plant species from growing nearby. Outside their natural ranges, eucalypts are both lauded for their beneficial economic impact on poor populations[49][48]: 22  and criticised for being "water-guzzling" aliens,[50] leading to controversy over their total impact.[34]

Eucalypts draw a tremendous amount of water from the soil through the process of transpiration. They have been planted (or re-planted) in some places to lower the water table and reduce soil salination. Eucalypts have also been used as a way of reducing malaria by draining the soil in Algeria, Lebanon, Sicily,[51] elsewhere in Europe, in the Caucasus (Western Georgia), and California.[52] Drainage removes swamps which provide a habitat for mosquito larvae, but can also destroy ecologically productive areas. This drainage is not limited to the soil surface, because the eucalyptus roots are up to 2.5 m (8 ft 2 in) in length and can, depending on the location, even reach the phreatic zone.[citation needed]"

And guess under what circumstances they become invasive! Can't figure it out?
"Several species have become invasive and are causing major problems for local ecosystems, mainly due to the absence of wildlife corridors and rotations management."
They are a group of plants that includes some species that require regular maintenance to keep them from becoming invasive.
Guess what California tends to be really bad at? Forestry management.

California is literally one of the worst places in the US for eucalyptus trees to be planted.
 

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