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Carrot of Truth

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Ask someone with no job who lives in a car if they're more worried about gasoline or dinner and they'll say gasoline.

They can get a free meal with ease. They can not get gasoline for free.


Don't think ive ever met someone like that who wasn't a drug addict that I wanted nothing to do with.
 

bintananth

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Don't think ive ever met someone like that who wasn't a drug addict that I wanted nothing to do with.
I have.

The one I know doesn't do drugs. His priorities are gasoline, water, and food ... in that strict order. Water and food means a 6-pack of really cheap beer that's literally cheaper than cold bottled purified water.

EDIT: He has enough pride in himself that $1 24oz cans of bullshit and $2 40oz bottles malt liquor are beneath him.
 
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Carrot of Truth

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I have.

The one I know doesn't do drugs. His priorities are gasoline, water, and food ... in that strict order. Water and food means a 6-pack of really cheap beer that's literally cheaper than cold bottled purified water.

EDIT: He has enough pride in himself that $1 24oz cans of bullshit and $2 40oz bottles malt liquor are beneath him.

Okay so hes a drunk then not drug addict but still an addict.
 

bintananth

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Okay so hes a drunk then not drug addict but still an addict.
The six-pack he goes through every day is about equal to about 5/8 of a gallon of water and 1000-1200 calories for less than four dollars.

I did the math. He ain't stupid and could probably teach you a thing or two about how to stretch a buck. Last time I saw him he was taking a nap. He had a jury rigged sunshade consisting of a thick winter blanket, two gallons of water within arms reach, and was smoking a cigar while sitting in a lawn chair.
 

DarthOne

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Biden Apparently Thinks $5 Gas Isn't Painful Enough - His EPA Is Attacking America's Largest Oilfield



In case you were wondering whether the Biden administration could do anything more to cripple the U.S. fossil fuel industry, the answer is yes.

The Environmental Protection Agency is considering an “ozone violation designation” for portions of the Permian Basin, the largest oil field in the United States, according to Bloomberg News. The Permian Basin is located in West Texas and southeastern New Mexico.

In a letter to President Joe Biden on Monday, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott warned that this action “could lead to skyrocketing prices at the pump by reducing production, increase the cost of that production, or do both.”

The Permian Basin, he informed the president, accounts for 25 percent of our nation’s gas supply — 95 million gallons per day — and 40 percent of all oil produced domestically.

Abbott emphasized that this decision was entirely discretionary and that Biden had the power to stop it.

“If you do not, this action alone might serve as a catalyst for economic harm leading to an even deeper reliance on imported foreign energy and a faster economic decline into the pending recession by forcing even more pain for American consumers to pay at the pump,” the Republican governor wrote.

He concluded by saying, “Because time is of the essence in these EPA proceedings, I must hear back from you by July 29, 2022. If the EPA’s proposed redesignation is not suspended by that date, Texas will take the action needed to protect the production of oil — and the gasoline that comes from it.”




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President Biden's EPA seeks to stop gas production in the Permian Basin. This will raise gas prices EVEN MORE. This action is completely discretionary. Biden has the power to stop it. Read my full letter:
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A fact sheet on this proposal prepared by the U.S. General Services Administration says: “In 2017, EPA designated certain counties in southeastern New Mexico and West Texas located in the area known as the Permian Basin attainment/unclassifiable for the 2015 ozone NAAQS.

“EPA is now considering a discretionary redesignation for (portions of) these counties in New Mexico and Texas for the 2015 ozone NAAQS under Clean Air Act section 107(d)(3) based on current monitoring data and other air quality factors. If the area is redesignated to nonattainment, the state(s) will be required to submit a State Implementation Plan to bring the area into attainment with the 2015 ozone NAAQS.”

This action was instigated by the conservation group WildEarth Guardians, according to Bloomberg. It said monitors had found that “average ground-level ozone levels” had exceeded “the 2015 standard of 70 parts per billion several years running.”

The group petitioned the EPA in March 2021 and later threatened legal action if nothing was done.

Jeremy Nichols, WildEarth’s climate and energy program director, told Bloomberg this designation “basically says you’ve got to clean up this mess or the consequences are going to get even more severe as far as restricting your ability to permit more pollution and more development.”

If parts of this region are found to be in violation of the ozone limits, state regulators would have three years to bring those areas back into compliance.

Bloomberg spoke to Todd Staples, president of the Texas Oil and Gas Association, about the effects an EPA attack on the Permian Basin might have on future energy development.

“Creating uncertainty on permitting and inserting unnecessary regulatory barriers will only negatively impact the production necessary to meet the needs of consumers,” he said.

Why would this administration even consider moving forward now with a plan that would further discourage oil companies from starting new projects? A rhetorical question.



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REMINDER: President Biden is LYING when he says he is not restricting new oil and gas drilling The Permian Basin is the top producing oil field in the world -subjecting it to more regulations will worsen the pain American families are feeling at the pump


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World’s Biggest Oil Field Faces Pollution Rules That Could Curb Drilling
Biden administration is weighing tougher anti-smog rules that could curb drilling in the Permian Basin


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At a time when some Americans are forced to choose between putting food on their table or filling their gas tank, this idea should have been dismissed out of hand.

While Biden claims to care about the rising cost of gas, his administration’s actions say otherwise.
 

Carrot of Truth

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Like I keep saying - they want this. They want people to travel less. Whether this is out of some neo-feudalist desire to restrict travel, or because they think it will make people use public mass transportation more, or get electric vehicles, this is what they want.
 

Agent23

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Ask someone with no job who lives in a car if they're more worried about gasoline or dinner and they'll say gasoline.

They can get a free meal with ease. They can not get gasoline for free.
Since it takes double digit calories in energy to ship single digit calories in food to end consumers in the USA that "free" meal might also be affected severely.

Like I keep saying - they want this. They want people to travel less. Whether this is out of some neo-feudalist desire to restrict travel, or because they think it will make people use public mass transportation more, or get electric vehicles, this is what they want.
Yes, and they have no idea how hard it will bite them in the ass.
If travel is harder food will have to be sourced locally and there will be more reliance on local, informal support networks and forms of production.

Big cities will burn, megacorpos will go out of business or lose money, and the resources of the government will be curtailed severely due to black marketeering and lower taxes.Think family, neighbors, small town and village authorities and the like.

"These people think they are the future, but all they are is sewage flowing down hill." to misquote an once good scifi space opera book series.

The elite oligarchy is real, and they are dumber than a bag of hammers.
 
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Carrot of Truth

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Like I keep saying - they want this. They want people to travel less. Whether this is out of some neo-feudalist desire to restrict travel, or because they think it will make people use public mass transportation more, or get electric vehicles, this is what they want.

Well that is retarded, if you want to rule the world Brave New world is the better way to go about it rather than 1984.
 

Bassoe

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Like is he trying to get himself lynched or something?
Possibly. Well, not personally trying, he's never been the self-sacrificing type and he's too senile for successful scheming, but the guys who control his teleprompter and the release of his secret epstein island home movies and therefore his politics might have such an outcome in mind. Some jackass assassinates him, the status quo gets their reichstag fire to justify a War On Domestic Terror, complete with a Domestic Patriot Act Version 2.0, this-time-we're-not-even-pretending-it-isn't-aimed-at-our-own-citizens edition.
 

Cherico

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Possibly. Well, not personally trying, he's never been the self-sacrificing type and he's too senile for successful scheming, but the guys who control his teleprompter and the release of his secret epstein island home movies and therefore his politics might have such an outcome in mind. Some jackass assassinates him, the status quo gets their reichstag fire to justify a War On Domestic Terror, complete with a Domestic Patriot Act Version 2.0, this-time-we're-not-even-pretending-it-isn't-aimed-at-our-own-citizens edition.
The problem with such tactics is that if you piss off the general population too much you end up with a revolution French style
 

ATP

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The problem with such tactics is that if you piss off the general population too much you end up with a revolution French style

Maybe that is their genial plan? then they would hide and send their Napoleon to take over and rule as Emperor.
Problem is - if they had such person,they would use him now.

So,either stupidity - or,they are chineese agents who simply want USA gone.
 

BlackDragon98

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Maybe that is their genial plan? then they would hide and send their Napoleon to take over and rule as Emperor.
Problem is - if they had such person,they would use him now.

So,either stupidity - or,they are chineese agents who simply want USA gone.
both them and the CCP are members of a greater evil, the WEF.

they want to destroy the world as we know it and turn it into a sort of 1984 type world where they rule supreme
 

Cherico

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Maybe that is their genial plan? then they would hide and send their Napoleon to take over and rule as Emperor.
Problem is - if they had such person,they would use him now.

So,either stupidity - or,they are chineese agents who simply want USA gone.

That is a really bad plan.

If your lucky you get a Napoleon and the leftists get purged because their distabalizing society and are a threat to the new guys rule.

If your unlucky you get a Stalin and any leftist who breaths wrong ends up dead in the same gulague they sent everyone else into.

In no senerio do the worst actors win.
 

bintananth

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Since it takes double digit calories in energy to ship single digit calories in food to end consumers in the USA that "free" meal might also be affected severely.
Not really. There are always leftovers.

However, if food rationing becomes a thing we all have to comply with then we're all fucked.
 

Agent23

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Not really. There are always leftovers.

However, if food rationing becomes a thing we all have to comply with then we're all fucked.
Well, I think that most of you Americans can stand to lose a few (hundred) pounds.
Look on the bright side, with the Biden-Maduro diet you will liquidate obesity in the USA.
 

bintananth

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Well, I think that most of you Americans can stand to lose a few (hundred) pounds.
Look on the bright side, with the Biden-Maduro diet you will liquidate obesity in the USA.
"I'm not fat, I'm just big boned."

More seriously, a lot of Americans simply don't have the time or money for a proper diet and American meal portions are also enormous.

I'm not sure what it's called in Bulgaria, but a "large" Big Mac combo with a Coke from a McDonald's drive-through is 1,400kCal all by itself and that's just lunch.

Heck, if you're going cheap and have a BOGO coupon 2 triple cheeseburgers and a cup of water is 1,100kCal for three dollars. That's my McDonald's lunch order.
 

Marduk

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Since it takes double digit calories in energy to ship single digit calories in food to end consumers in the USA that "free" meal might also be affected severely.
Try some math with that dooming, it's good for you.
A small truck with a payload around 16,000 kg uses around 25 litres of diesel per 100 kilometres.

Let's take a small semi like that, not the most optimal, as our baseline option. 25l of diesel is about 20kg of diesel, which is about 11,000 kcal per kg, so 220,000 kcal per 100km.
1kg of potatoes has about 700 kcal. That means 16 tons of them that our baseline truck carries have 11,200,000 kcal.
Conclusion being, that in order to move around a common staple food by one of less energy efficient but common means (trains, ships and river barges take less energy for the same distance and cargo), you would need to carry it for ridiculous 5090 km to reach 1:1 caloric cost ratio of transport fuel to cargo, which means that to get to double digits, you would need to circumnavigate the Earth and then drive some more. I'm not a logistics expert, but i think that would be a pretty stupid way to supply potatoes to anywhere. A more reasonable distance in US context is 1000-2000 km, and that's already pretty pessimistic scenario avoidable for most states if things get rough (the idea of California being a major food exporter may suffer).
 

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