Ducktales (Woo-hooo!) Reboot Thread

[Big Steve]

A fair point.

Although I'll give the 80s one thing.. The intros were all freaking awesome. All the way, I'd say, until the pop music invasion of theme songs started in the late 90s. (Although not all of those are bad. The original Kim Possible intro - ugh, original, stupid reboots - was catchy for Disney pop music).

 

[Terthna]

Well sure but... well.

The 80s had all that sort of mass produced low effort junk too. Some of it may not have been as mass produced as modern stuff like TTG, but that has to do with changes to the industry in many respects (computer aided animation greatly reducing the cost of work and the internet allowing offshoring of animation production to Japan and S. Korea with quick turnaround time and greater producer involvement). I mean, look at this list and bear in mind that the majority of it isn't fondly remembered and was just junk shoveled out to sell toys.

The Disney Afternoon shows and the other "classic 80s cartoons" are just that, the classics, the ones that stood the test of time for us to become nostalgic for. Likewise shows like Avatar: TLA and the other ones you mention are likely to withstand the test as well (though I have my doubts on SU, but that's another thread), but again, they are the really good shows among a sea of drek, just like usual.

It's like the question of "why was music in the past so much better than modern songs?" It wasn't, it's just that the music that survives from previous decades usually is the really good stuff that people keep going back to because it was really good, while the junk stuff is left by the wayside and forgotten. This happens with all media, and has been happening since we first started recording media in a form that allowed redistribution.

Case in point, who the heck would willingly remember The New Shmoo?


I wish I could forget.

 

[LordSunhawk]

I admit I am weird because while I am vaguely conversant in Duck Tales and all, the series I mainly remember as magical, fascinating and inspirational when I was a child was Mysterious Cities of Gold. As Steve can attest it's influenced everything I've thought about since.

Ya know, I was a kid during the first airing of that on Nickelodeon, and I actually was very unhappy when my parents took me to the Bahamas on vacation near the end of the run and caused me to miss the final episodes, so I never got to see the finish as a kid! Abuse!

*starts singing* Children of the Sun... *misty eyed nostalgia*

 

[Deleted member]

Ya know, I was a kid during the first airing of that on Nickelodeon, and I actually was very unhappy when my parents took me to the Bahamas on vacation near the end of the run and caused me to miss the final episodes, so I never got to see the finish as a kid! Abuse!

*starts singing* Children of the Sun... *misty eyed nostalgia*

Now I know why we get along so well! Amazing!

 

[Terthna]

Now I know why we get along so well! Amazing!

I also quite enjoy the original French version:


But yes; plus one here for people who watched the show on Nickelodeon, back in the day. Didn't they do a sequel a few years ago? Maybe someone should make a thread for it.

 

[Big Steve]

There was a weekend in March 1993 when there was a nasty storm in the SE that caused a major rolling blackout across Central Florida. My biggest complaint? It kept me from watching the first part of the X-Men '92 animated series adaptation of "Days of Future Past" (which, granted, changed the comic story significantly and used Bishop as an actual time traveler).

And if you want to know another connection, X-Men was co-produced by Saban Entertainment, and Haim Saban of said company co-composed the music for the American release of Mysterious Cities of Gold.

 

[LordSunhawk]

Well, I was able to buy the original Mysterious Cities of Gold on Amazon *grins* Sometimes when I'm feeling particularly depressed I will fire it up and watch a few more episodes.

 

[Terthna]

Okay, yeah; that's three people, including myself, waxing nostalgic about The Mysterious Cities of Gold, in a thread that's supposed to be about the new Ducktales reboot. Time for a new thread, I think.

 

[Big Steve]

Okay, yeah; that's three people, including myself, waxing nostalgic about The Mysterious Cities of Gold, in a thread that's supposed to be about the new Ducktales reboot. Time for a new thread, I think.

Good thinking.

As for the main topic, I'm super-eager for Season 3. The season's big arc promises to be interesting with the premise, and it's likely going to be Huey's season, so I'm wondering what his character arc will be compared to Dewey's in S1 and Louie's in S2.

 

[BF110C4]

Personally I'm hoping to see what are they going to do with Drake Mallard and Gosalyn, in the original the meeting between those two was what made Darkwing Duck raise the bar out of spooking carterists and into the big leagues, not only due to the quality of his enemies but more important because the paternal love DW had for Gos gave him the motivation to Get Dangerous.

As for Huey, I think that he is finally going to understand what does being the older brother in charge of protecting the younger siblings is really about, not only from their enemies which are going to be ruthless criminals instead of the usual losers but also protect his more impulsive brothers from themselves, even if it means occasionally putting his foot down.

 

[Big Steve]

Personally I'm hoping to see what are they going to do with Drake Mallard and Gosalyn, in the original the meeting between those two was what made Darkwing Duck raise the bar out of spooking carterists and into the big leagues, not only due to the quality of his enemies but more important because the paternal love DW had for Gos gave him the motivation to Get Dangerous.

As for Huey, I think that he is finally going to understand what does being the older brother in charge of protecting the younger siblings is really about, not only from their enemies which are going to be ruthless criminals instead of the usual losers but also protect his more impulsive brothers from themselves, even if it means occasionally putting his foot down.

Looks like next Monday, you get your answer. Aw hell yeah.

 

[Terthna]

For anyone who was hoping for a fourth season, I've got some good news, and some bad news. First up, the bad:


So yeah; season four is not going to happen. On the plus side, season three will not end in a cliffhanger; it will end with a series finale. Regardless, this is yet another example of how Disney seems to keep making terrible decisions as of late.

 

[Big Steve]

Disney animation is known for wanting series capped at about 70 episodes, IIRC. As opposed to the old days of Disney Afternoon stuff where they wanted that magic syndication number.

 

[Terthna]

Finally got around to catching the finale; all in all, it was a good send-off. Not everything was wrapped up of course (we never did get to see Darkwing face off against Negaduck), but it was among the better endings I've ever seen for a western cartoon; even though it just gave us a resolution to that season's conflict, and left off with a heavy "And the Adventure Continues" vibe.

Now I'm wondering what they're going to do with the Darkwing Duck reboot. As much as I would like them to treat it like a sequel to the Ducktales reboot, that's not going to happen. The show has completely different people in charge of it, and the whole "Disney Afternoon shared universe" thing was very much a creation of the the latter's staff; Disney execs never seemed too keen on the concept.

 

[BF110C4]

Now I'm wondering what they're going to do with the Darkwing Duck reboot. As much as I would like them to treat it like a sequel to the Ducktales reboot, that's not going to happen. The show has completely different people in charge of it, and the whole "Disney Afternoon shared universe" thing was very much a creation of the the latter's staff; Disney execs never seemed too keen on the concept.

I do hope that they keep the reeboot Darkwing characters even if they limit the crossover elements. Just having a teen Gozalyn who is actually aware of the risks of being a masked hero (or in her specific case a sidekick) is going to change a lot of things compared with the old series.

Another interesting change is going to be the Muddlefoots, Tankard and Honker interactions are by necesity extremely different when they interact as teens rather than children. Tank is probably going to be either a teen bully or if redirects his agression to sports the classic jock, while an older Honker with the tech skills he was known plus the far greater relevance of the internet can easily gain a little confidence as a white hat hacker or a propective MIT candidate or at least gain that confidence after befriending Goz.

 

[Terthna]

I do hope that they keep the reeboot Darkwing characters even if they limit the crossover elements. Just having a teen Gozalyn who is actually aware of the risks of being a masked hero (or in her specific case a sidekick) is going to change a lot of things compared with the old series.

Another interesting change is going to be the Muddlefoots, Tankard and Honker interactions are by necesity extremely different when they interact as teens rather than children. Tank is probably going to be either a teen bully or if redirects his agression to sports the classic jock, while an older Honker with the tech skills he was known plus the far greater relevance of the internet can easily gain a little confidence as a white hat hacker or a propective MIT candidate or at least gain that confidence after befriending Goz.

The problem with continuing on from the Ducktales reboot, is that it severely restricts what they can do; F.O.W.L. has already been defeated, and they can't use any of his rogues' gallery outside of Negaduck, Steelbeak, and maybe Taurus Bulba, because the rest of them are all fictional in-universe.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

The problem with continuing on from the Ducktales reboot, is that it severely restricts what they can do; F.O.W.L. has already been defeated, and they can't use any of his rogues' gallery outside of Negaduck, Steelbeak, and maybe Taurus Bulba, because the rest of them are all fictional in-universe.

I mean, there's a comic series called "Disney Ultimate" or something like that where Darkwing Duck has his complete rogues gallery and it's not tied to Ducktales.

 

[Terthna]

I mean, there's a comic series called "Disney Ultimate" or something like that where Darkwing Duck has his complete rogues gallery and it's not tied to Ducktales.

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I can only assume that's because it's based off of the original show; which is what I think they're going to end up doing with the Darkwing Duck reboot, with little to nothing taken from the Ducktales reboot version of the character.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I can only assume that's because it's based off of the original show; which is what I think they're going to end up doing with the Darkwing Duck reboot, with little to nothing taken from the Ducktales reboot version of the character.

I'm talking about this comicbook series: LTS Premium (in Germany) or Donald Duck Premium (in the USA):

It's basically a recollection of various stories with overarching plotlines, like the PK comic series or Donald Duck Spy. The comics of Darkwing Duck are also included, and there's also Mickey Mouse as a paranormal investigator.

 

[BF110C4]

The problem with continuing on from the Ducktales reboot, is that it severely restricts what they can do; F.O.W.L. has already been defeated, and they can't use any of his rogues' gallery outside of Negaduck, Steelbeak, and maybe Taurus Bulba, because the rest of them are all fictional in-universe.

Maybe having CyberBulba coming back from his multiversal exile with a DD villain gallery in tow, plus a few new players in both sides to keep things fresh?