Religion Does the New Testament teach that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, Yahweh?

[King Arts]

.i bolded the relevant parts, but here they are again:

"I believe in one God, the Father almighty,"
"God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. "
"I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, "

and i also pulled that from the CC's web page.

seeing as how this is the reason that the First Council of Nicaea was convened i have serious questions on your knowledge of history. you are using the Arianist heresy as the basis of your argument.

i'll see if a picture can get it through your thick skull:

God is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Jesus is the Son, ergo Jesus is God.

this has been the CC's stance since ad 325.

But the son is not the father. I think ATP is confused and thinks the Old Testament is only with the father, and the son and Holy Spirit came later.

 

[Stargazer]

But the son is not the father. I think ATP is confused and thinks the Old Testament is only with the father, and the son and Holy Spirit came later.

He's confusing Yahweh for the Father specifically. He did admit that the name of the one God of the Old Testament is Yahweh. He fails to see how denying Jesus is Yahweh but saying Jesus is God are mutually exclusive statements. Yahweh is the God referred to in the Nicene Creed when it says "God from God". To say Yahweh is only the Father turns the creed on its head.

And he just refuses to be corrected. He keeps dismissing Scripture as having any real authority, and hilariously just flat out ignores what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says so he can pretend that saying Jesus is Yahweh is "new heresy". He's either a troll, or he's really really really really really really really dumb. Either is possible, though I lean towards troll.

 

[ATP]

.i bolded the relevant parts, but here they are again:

"I believe in one God, the Father almighty,"
"God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. "
"I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, "

and i also pulled that from the CC's web page.

seeing as how this is the reason that the First Council of Nicaea was convened i have serious questions on your knowledge of history. you are using the Arianist heresy as the basis of your argument.

i'll see if a picture can get it through your thick skull:

God is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Jesus is the Son, ergo Jesus is God.

this has been the CC's stance since ad 325.

Of course,that Jesus is God.Just like Holy Spirit.But Jesus is not Jahwe.

Here,another:


Philippians 1:13-15


13 As a result, it has become clear throughout the whole palace guard[a] and to everyone else that I am in chains for Christ. 14 And because of my chains, most of the brothers and sisters have become confident in the Lord and dare all the more to proclaim the gospel without fear.

15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.

Here,Jesus is Lord and Messiah.

 

[ATP]

But the son is not the father. I think ATP is confused and thinks the Old Testament is only with the father, and the son and Holy Spirit came later.

Nope,Jahwe is not Jesus.That is all.

Here,another:


Philippians 1:19-29


19 for I know that through your prayers and God’s provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance.[a] 20 I eagerly expect and hope that I will in no way be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death. 21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. 25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith, 26 so that through my being with you again your boasting in Christ Jesus will abound on account of me.
Life Worthy of the Gospel
27 Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in the one Spirit,[b] striving together as one for the faith of the gospel 28 without being frightened in any way by those who oppose you. This is a sign to them that they will be destroyed, but that you will be saved—and that by God. 29 For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him,

Again,God is God,Jesus is Messiah.

 

[ATP]

He's confusing Yahweh for the Father specifically. He did admit that the name of the one God of the Old Testament is Yahweh. He fails to see how denying Jesus is Yahweh but saying Jesus is God are mutually exclusive statements. Yahweh is the God referred to in the Nicene Creed when it says "God from God". To say Yahweh is only the Father turns the creed on its head.

And he just refuses to be corrected. He keeps dismissing Scripture as having any real authority, and hilariously just flat out ignores what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says so he can pretend that saying Jesus is Yahweh is "new heresy". He's either a troll, or he's really really really really really really really dumb. Either is possible, though I lean towards troll.

It seems,that you knew better what Nicean creed mean that catholics.Tell me,when exactly even one pope or Saint say that Jesus is Jahwe?

Here,another:


Philippians 2:1-4


Imitating Christ’s Humility
2 Therefore if you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any common sharing in the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, 2 then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and of one mind. 3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, 4 not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.

Again,Jesus is Messiah,noy God.Not mention Jahwe.

 

[King Arts]

Nope,Jahwe is not Jesus.That is all.

Here,another:


Philippians 1:19-29


19 for I know that through your prayers and God’s provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance.[a] 20 I eagerly expect and hope that I will in no way be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death. 21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. 22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know! 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; 24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. 25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith, 26 so that through my being with you again your boasting in Christ Jesus will abound on account of me.
Life Worthy of the Gospel
27 Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in the one Spirit,[b] striving together as one for the faith of the gospel 28 without being frightened in any way by those who oppose you. This is a sign to them that they will be destroyed, but that you will be saved—and that by God. 29 For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for him,

Again,God is God,Jesus is Messiah.

Yes he is.
Jesus is Yahweh
the Father is Yahweh
and the holy spirit is Yahweh.

Yahweh is God, I am that I am.

 

[Stargazer]

It seems,that you knew better what Nicean creed mean that catholics.Tell me,when exactly even one pope or Saint say that Jesus is Jahwe?

Here,another:


Philippians 2:1-4


Imitating Christ’s Humility
2 Therefore if you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any common sharing in the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, 2 then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and of one mind. 3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, 4 not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.

Again,Jesus is Messiah,noy God.Not mention Jahwe.

I'm saying I understand the Nicene Creed better than you. I'm saying I am more Catholic than you. I'm not saying anything that the Catechism of the Catholic Church doesn't already say. Here's a section of the Catechism that I already quoted. Maybe you won't ignore it this time?

IV. Lord

446 In the Greek translation of the Old Testament, the ineffable Hebrew name YHWH, by which God revealed himself to Moses,59 is rendered as Kyrios, "Lord". From then on, "Lord" becomes the more usual name by which to indicate the divinity of Israel's God. the New Testament uses this full sense of the title "Lord" both for the Father and - what is new - for Jesus, who is thereby recognized as God Himself.60

447 Jesus ascribes this title to himself in a veiled way when he disputes with the Pharisees about the meaning of Psalm 110, but also in an explicit way when he addresses his apostles.61 Throughout his public life, he demonstrated his divine sovereignty by works of power over nature, illnesses, demons, death and sin.

 

[ATP]

Yes he is.
Jesus is Yahweh
the Father is Yahweh
and the holy spirit is Yahweh.

Yahweh is God, I am that I am.

Father is Jahwe.God of Old Testament.
Jesus and Holy Spirit are not.
All 3 are God/Trinity.

But even if that was true,New Testament still do not show that.

Here,another:


Philippians 2:6-11

6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

Here,Jesus is not egual to God,althought HE have the same nature.
0,5 point.

 

[ATP]

I'm saying I understand the Nicene Creed better than you. I'm saying I am more Catholic than you. I'm not saying anything that the Catechism of the Catholic Church doesn't already say. Here's a section of the Catechism that I already quoted. Maybe you won't ignore it this time?

IV. Lord

446 In the Greek translation of the Old Testament, the ineffable Hebrew name YHWH, by which God revealed himself to Moses,59 is rendered as Kyrios, "Lord". From then on, "Lord" becomes the more usual name by which to indicate the divinity of Israel's God. the New Testament uses this full sense of the title "Lord" both for the Father and - what is new - for Jesus, who is thereby recognized as God Himself.60

447 Jesus ascribes this title to himself in a veiled way when he disputes with the Pharisees about the meaning of Psalm 110, but also in an explicit way when he addresses his apostles.61 Throughout his public life, he demonstrated his divine sovereignty by works of power over nature, illnesses, demons, death and sin.

Of course,that you are more catholic then protestant.You belive that Jesus is God becouse of your tradition,just like i belive becouse of mine Tradition.

And What in veiled way you do not undarstandt?
I never said that JESUS is not God - only that HE never said it openly.And Apostles treated him almost always as Messiah.
Lord would be important - if New Testament named Jesus as God as freqently as Jahwe.
Which do not happened.


Philippians 2:13-16


13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.

14 Do everything without grumbling or arguing, 15 so that you may become blameless and pure, “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.”[a] Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky 16 as you hold firmly to the word of life. And then I will be able to boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor in vain.

Again,God is God,Jesus is Messiah.

 

[Stargazer]

Of course,that you are more catholic then protestant.You belive that Jesus is God becouse of your tradition,just like i belive becouse of mine Tradition.

And What in veiled way you do not undarstandt?
I never said that JESUS is not God - only that HE never said it openly.And Apostles treated him almost always as Messiah.
Lord would be important - if New Testament named Jesus as God as freqently as Jahwe.
Which do not happened.

No, I believe that Jesus is God simply because the New Testament teaches that he is, as we've repeatedly shown you. I've made no mention of any tradition I hold to besides what is written in the New Testament. Your continued insistence that I only believe because of my tradition is simply disconnected from reality and anything I've actually said. You are not talking about reality.

And I only bring up the Catechism to show just how ridiculous is your notion that saying Jesus is Yahweh is somehow "new heresy". It's what the Catholic Church itself officially teaches, for crying out loud.

If you deny that Jesus is Yahweh, you are denying that Jesus is God. As the Catechism says, "YHWH" or "Yahweh" is the name that God revealed himself with to Moses. That word was translated as the title "LORD" in the Greek translation of the Old Testament, and that title was applied in the New Testament in its full sense to BOTH the Father and the Son, Jesus. The Catechism says that is how we know that Jesus is God. If Jesus isn't LORD, if he isn't YHWH, then he isn't God.

That is what the Catechism teaches. It makes no mention of your nonsense about how frequently Jesus is called God. If you deny what the Catechism says, if you just act like the title "LORD" isn't important after being shown what the Catechism says, you really have no right to call yourself Catholic. Again, I am more Catholic than you because I actually agree with the Catechism on this point.

Learn to freaking read. Look up that section of the Catechism in Polish if you're having a hard time with the English. The Catechism was commissioned by John Paul II, your own Polish pope. I'm sure he had a good version of it in Polish made available.

 

[ATP]

No, I believe that Jesus is God simply because the New Testament teaches that he is, as we've repeatedly shown you. I've made no mention of any tradition I hold to besides what is written in the New Testament. Your continued insistence that I only believe because of my tradition is simply disconnected from reality and anything I've actually said. You are not talking about reality.

And I only bring up the Catechism to show just how ridiculous is your notion that saying Jesus is Yahweh is somehow "new heresy". It's what the Catholic Church itself officially teaches, for crying out loud.

If you deny that Jesus is Yahweh, you are denying that Jesus is God. As the Catechism says, "YHWH" or "Yahweh" is the name that God revealed himself with to Moses. That word was translated as the title "LORD" in the Greek translation of the Old Testament, and that title was applied in the New Testament in its full sense to BOTH the Father and the Son, Jesus. The Catechism says that is how we know that Jesus is God. If Jesus isn't LORD, if he isn't YHWH, then he isn't God.

That is what the Catechism teaches. It makes no mention of your nonsense about how frequently Jesus is called God. If you deny what the Catechism says, if you just act like the title "LORD" isn't important after being shown what the Catechism says, you really have no right to call yourself Catholic. Again, I am more Catholic than you because I actually agree with the Catechism on this point.

Learn to freaking read. Look up that section of the Catechism in Polish if you're having a hard time with the English. The Catechism was commissioned by John Paul II, your own Polish pope. I'm sure he had a good version of it in Polish made available.

Reality is what New Testament say.And Jesus HIMSELF never told that HE is God,only imlied that.And,Paul sometimes suggest it,too,but so far Jesus for him is Messiah,not God.

And if you belive that Jesus is Jahwe,ask any normal catholic priest about that.You are twisting Catechism,or you are unable to read.
Your heresy is really funny,but why pretend that we belive so is even more funny.

Here,another Paul for you:


Philippians 2:19-21

Timothy and Epaphroditus
19 I hope in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy to you soon, that I also may be cheered when I receive news about you. 20 I have no one else like him, who will show genuine concern for your welfare. 21 For everyone looks out for their own interests, not those of Jesus Christ.

Again,Jesus is Lord and Messiah,not God.

P.S since you are unable to undarstandt nicean creed,here athanasian creed which deal with your funny heresy:


Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

 

[Stargazer]

Reality is what New Testament say.And Jesus HIMSELF never told that HE is God,only imlied that.And,Paul sometimes suggest it,too,but so far Jesus for him is Messiah,not God.

And if you belive that Jesus is Jahwe,ask any normal catholic priest about that.You are twisting Catechism,or you are unable to read.
Your heresy is really funny,but why pretend that we belive so is even more funny.

Here,another Paul for you:


Philippians 2:19-21

Timothy and Epaphroditus
19 I hope in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy to you soon, that I also may be cheered when I receive news about you. 20 I have no one else like him, who will show genuine concern for your welfare. 21 For everyone looks out for their own interests, not those of Jesus Christ.

Again,Jesus is Lord and Messiah,not God.

P.S since you are unable to undarstandt nicean creed,here athanasian creed which deal with your funny heresy:


Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: that we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation; that he also believe faithfully the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess; that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God, of the Substance [Essence] of the Father; begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the Substance [Essence] of his Mother, born in the world. Perfect God; and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching his Godhead; and inferior to the Father as touching his Manhood. Who although he is God and Man; yet he is not two, but one Christ. One; not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh; but by assumption of the Manhood into God. One altogether; not by confusion of Substance [Essence]; but by unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man; so God and Man is one Christ; Who suffered for our salvation; descended into hell; rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty, from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead. At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies; And shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil, into everlasting fire. This is the catholic faith; which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.

How does the Athanasian Creed contradict anything I've said?

 

[ATP]

How does the Athanasian Creed contradict anything I've said?

So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
And,as we knew from New Testament,Jahwe is Father.

Here,another Paul:


Philippians 2:27-30



27 Indeed he was ill, and almost died. But God had mercy on him, and not on him only but also on me, to spare me sorrow upon sorrow. 28 Therefore I am all the more eager to send him, so that when you see him again you may be glad and I may have less anxiety. 29 So then, welcome him in the Lord with great joy, and honor people like him, 30 because he almost died for the work of Christ. He risked his life to make up for the help you yourselves could not give me.

Again,God is God,Jesus is Messiah,not God.

 

[Stargazer]

So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
And,as we knew from New Testament,Jahwe is Father.

Who is Lord?

 

[King Arts]

So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts.
And,as we knew from New Testament,Jahwe is Father.

Here,another Paul:


Philippians 2:27-30



27 Indeed he was ill, and almost died. But God had mercy on him, and not on him only but also on me, to spare me sorrow upon sorrow. 28 Therefore I am all the more eager to send him, so that when you see him again you may be glad and I may have less anxiety. 29 So then, welcome him in the Lord with great joy, and honor people like him, 30 because he almost died for the work of Christ. He risked his life to make up for the help you yourselves could not give me.

Again,God is God,Jesus is Messiah,not God.

Why do you think Yahweh is father? Explain it to me.

 

[ATP]

Who is Lord?

Another name for Jesus and Jahwe.
But,you need Catholic creed to confirm that - and catholic Creed is not part of New Testament.
Here,another Paul:

Philippians 3:1-3

No Confidence in the Flesh
3 Further, my brothers and sisters, rejoice in the Lord! It is no trouble for me to write the same things to you again, and it is a safeguard for you. 2 Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh. 3 For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh—

Again,God is God,Jesus is Messiash and Lord.

 

[ATP]

Why do you think Yahweh is father? Explain it to me.

Becouse when Apostles asked for new prayer to Jahwe,Jesus gave them "Our Father"
That is something which actually we have in New Testament.

Here,another Paul:


Philippians 3:7-15

7 But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in[a] Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. 10 I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.

12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
Following Paul’s Example
15 All of us, then, who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you.

Again,God is God,Jesus is Messiah.

 

[Stargazer]

Another name for Jesus and Jahwe.
But,you need Catholic creed to confirm that - and catholic Creed is not part of New Testament.
Here,another Paul:

I didn't ask what is the word "Lord". I asked who is Lord. If I talk about "the Lord", who am I talking about, exactly?

Becouse when Apostles asked for new prayer to Jahwe,Jesus gave them "Our Father"
That is something which actually we have in New Testament.

Here,another Paul:

What Scripture are you referring to, exactly? Because when Jesus teaches his disciples the Lord's Prayer, he doesn't actually directly mention the name Yahweh.

 

[ATP]

I didn't ask what is the word "Lord". I asked who is Lord. If I talk about "the Lord", who am I talking about, exactly?



What Scripture are you referring to, exactly? Because when Jesus teaches his disciples the Lord's Prayer, he doesn't actually directly mention the name Yahweh.

1.So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords.

2.They asked for prayer to God.And their God was Jahwe.


Philippians 3:20-21



20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

Again,Jesus is Messiah,not God.

 

[Stargazer]

1.So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords.

That is what the Athanasian Creed says. So, you agree that the Lord is Jesus?

2.They asked for prayer to God.And their God was Jahwe.

Yes...yes, the God of the Jews is Yahweh. In the context of the passages about the Lord's Prayer, the disciples just ask how to pray, not to pray to God specifically.