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Aaron Fox

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It's almost as if openly hostile anti-capitalist....are openly hostile towards capitalist. What did you think was going to happen Disney?!?!?

Well, the various Disneyland parks have been absolutely hemorrhaging money since this pandemic started (and before you go all 'Covid isn't bad', sure that tiny percentage of death is nice, the real nasty problem is the debilitating post-disease health problems rate) and with very little recourse to keep them running at effective levels.
 
Well, the various Disneyland parks have been absolutely hemorrhaging money since this pandemic started (and before you go all 'Covid isn't bad', sure that tiny percentage of death is nice, the real nasty problem is the debilitating post-disease health problems rate) and with very little recourse to keep them running at effective levels.

those debilitating post-disease health problems are the same complications you potentially get with every disease the difference is the media talks about covid.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
Well, the various Disneyland parks have been absolutely hemorrhaging money since this pandemic started (and before you go all 'Covid isn't bad', sure that tiny percentage of death is nice, the real nasty problem is the debilitating post-disease health problems rate) and with very little recourse to keep them running at effective levels.
It doesn't really matter how bad the Corona Virus is; it's the lockdowns that are screwing Disney over, whether they're justified or not.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.

Billions of dollars invested down the drain.
 

Bear Ribs

Well-known member
So it seems Disney has been refusing to pay Alan Dean Foster for the books he wrote, which they are currently still selling. The SFWA Grievance Committee isn't amused. I do rather like Foster's reply, "A contract is a contract." Disney's opener was to demand that Foster sign an NDA preventing him from speaking on the matter, before they were willing to speak to or negotiate with him at all, which has a lot of people scratching their heads, since that's not how things are done.



Is it wrong that a part of me hopes Disney wins, and winds up accidentally setting a legal precedent that utterly destroys all their own copyrights?
 

Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
It's bad enough they are doing this like that. But with how ADF and his wife are struggling with cancer, that's just a new low of Disney. They did the same with Mara Jade's model, so I'm not surprised they try to do this dickery. Fucking big corps, thinking themselves safe behind hordes and hordes of well-paid lawyers. Someone oughta teach these fat cats a lesson.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
It's bad enough they are doing this like that. But with how ADF and his wife are struggling with cancer, that's just a new low of Disney. They did the same with Mara Jade's model, so I'm not surprised they try to do this dickery. Fucking big corps, thinking themselves safe behind hordes and hordes of well-paid lawyers. Someone oughta teach these fat cats a lesson.

They can easily pay and willingly pay for crappy dudes in high positions who’re there via nepotism or cronyism and their really crappy creations

If they won’t pay for guys who’re actually getting them money or even just to look good for something legitimately good, then these guys are definitely worthless and stupid
 

Tryglaw

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They can easily pay and willingly pay for crappy dudes in high positions who’re there via nepotism or cronyism and their really crappy creations

If they won’t pay for guys who’re actually getting them money or even just to look good for something legitimately good, then these guys are definitely worthless and stupid

Especially as this is a huge message to all potential future authors that might work for them - "sign up with us and we won't pay you a dime of what we owe you".

Writers should boycott Disney from now on.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Especially as this is a huge message to all potential future authors that might work for them - "sign up with us and we won't pay you a dime of what we owe you".

Writers should boycott Disney from now on.

Honestly, if you choose to pay and keep the most worthless d-bags who even cause trouble and have very little in-terms of actual popularity and pay them millions whilst not paying the guys actually making you money via products people actually like

You're not just heartless and greedy, you're stupid

No wonder they're slowly going broke
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
Honestly, if you choose to pay and keep the most worthless d-bags who even cause trouble and have very little in-terms of actual popularity and pay them millions whilst not paying the guys actually making you money via products people actually like

You're not just heartless and greedy, you're stupid

No wonder they're slowly going broke
Welcome to modern business culture; where idiots who have no idea what they're doing coast off of the profits made from the good ideas someone else had decades ago, while also seemingly doing everything possible to undermine the viability of their business model going forward. Disney aren't exceptionally egregious in this regard either; they're the norm.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Welcome to modern business culture; where idiots who have no idea what they're doing coast off of the profits made from the good ideas someone else had decades ago, while also seemingly doing everything possible to undermine the viability of their business model going forward. Disney aren't exceptionally egregious in this regard either; they're the norm.

All while having a large number of guys with ACTUAL skills being made to work like slaves for shitty pay, who will never really be known for their work all while a bunch of weirdoes in charge get to be more or less immune from any consequences and fail “sideways” regardless of whatever fuss they make or how halfassed or how little they actually work
 
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Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
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All while having a large number of guys with ACTUAL skills being made to work like slaves for shitty pay, who will never really be known for their work all while a bunch of weirdoes in charge get to be more or less immune from any consequences and fail “sideways” regardless of whatever fuss they make or how halfassed or how little they actually work

It is pretty sad. What has the entertainment industry come too? I don't expect anything truly good most of the time, those are gems, but I expect decent works much of the time, and panem and circenses the majority of the time. These days I cannot get those gems anymore, nor even the works of middling quality...hell it is rare to properly have a hunk of bread while watching some clowns tumble out of cars anymore.
 

BlackDragon98

Freikorps Kommandant
Banned - Politics
It's bad enough they are doing this like that. But with how ADF and his wife are struggling with cancer, that's just a new low of Disney. They did the same with Mara Jade's model, so I'm not surprised they try to do this dickery. Fucking big corps, thinking themselves safe behind hordes and hordes of well-paid lawyers. Someone oughta teach these fat cats a lesson.
Mara Jade's model?
What happened there?
I thought Mara was Legends along with the rest of EU?

On another note, I have this interesting idea for a comic series that I've been working on for some time (I'm a writer, not professional yet but I'm getting there).
I plan to finish the concept plan and then send it in to Dark Horse, to see if they're interested in making it into a actual comic book series.
Does anyone have any clue how to send in concepts and stuff like that to a big publisher?
 

BlackDragon98

Freikorps Kommandant
Banned - Politics
Basically they had somebody dress up as her for publicity photos, trading card appearances and the like.
Disney did that?
And they didn't pay her afterwards?

This makes no sense, because I thought they completely ended anything that was from the EU.
Or have they brought the EU back?



bad time to be associated with disney/Disney+

GO WOKE, GO BROKE!
And such, is the way of the world.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
Founder
So it seems Disney has been refusing to pay Alan Dean Foster for the books he wrote, which they are currently still selling. The SFWA Grievance Committee isn't amused. I do rather like Foster's reply, "A contract is a contract." Disney's opener was to demand that Foster sign an NDA preventing him from speaking on the matter, before they were willing to speak to or negotiate with him at all, which has a lot of people scratching their heads, since that's not how things are done.


Is it wrong that a part of me hopes Disney wins, and winds up accidentally setting a legal precedent that utterly destroys all their own copyrights?

Alan Dean Foster apparently updated his blog stating:

“The irritating imbroglio with Disney, which you may have read about, is moving towards a mutually agreeable conclusion. A formal statement will be forthcoming.”

Apparently contacting Disney through respectful and private means or through legal representatives shockingly doesn't work. But getting your hashtag trending on social media and raising a stink through media interviews and various YouTubers (Star Wars Theory & Midnights Edge for example) and other independent outlets does... who knew?
 
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Urabrask Revealed

Let them go.
Founder
Alan Dean Foster apparently updated his blog stating:



Apparently contacting Disney through respectful and private means or through legal representatives shockingly doesn't work. But getting your hashtag trending on social media and raising a stink through media interviews and various YouTubers (Star Wars Theory & Midnights Edge for example) and other independent outlets does... who knew?
If you want your pay, then you gotta be prepared to drag your boss's reputation through the mud.
 

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