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How long till Disney supports the end of the lockdowns?

cosidering the people that run it, my guess is till the lock-down ends beginning of next year. If they manage to survive that long the stock oppurtunities are going to be YUGE!!!

call me twisted but there is still a part of me that would love to work my way up the ranks.
 

CarlManvers2019

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cosidering the people that run it, my guess is till the lock-down ends beginning of next year. If they manage to survive that long the stock oppurtunities are going to be YUGE!!!

call me twisted but there is still a part of me that would love to work my way up the ranks.

If you do work the way up those ranks, word of advice, fire all of the WOKE crowd as much as possible

Them and marketing

They put too many eggs in the Far Left basket
 

Culsu

Agent of the Central Plasma
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Probably because doing all the agreements would be a walk through legal purgatory, and because a tight grip on the IP guarantees the rights holder the means to do and plan as they please. Once you start loaning out your IP you run the risk of muddling the waters w/regards to where your rights end the rights of the licensee start.
 

Lord Sovereign

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Jesus Christ.

Doomcock was talking about this just yesterday. Seems there's a little more credibility to his sources now because good grief that is a massive blow for Disney. They are up shit creek without a paddle. I know it's probably not the primary reason, but their buggering up of Star Wars must have something to do with it: the films did not make the money they hoped for and the toys aren't selling.

Oh well. A little part of me honestly hopes this kills them as a world with one less soulless monopoly is a happier place.
 

Culsu

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A company as large and entrenched as Disney can run multi-billion dollar deficits for multiple consecutive years without the risk of collapsing, so I'd reserve all the doom and gloom for now. Their market position gives them an incredible credit score, and if push came to shove they could simply raise new capital by dropping new shares on the market. People who think this'll do more to the brand than temporarily inconvenience the empire are deluding themselves. If we're in 2022 and Disney is still running the deficit and we haven't really tackled the plague situation? Then we're talking.
 
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A company as large and entrenched as Disney can run multi-billion dollar deficits for multiple consecutive years without the risk of collapsing, so I'd reserve all the doom and gloom for now. Their market position gives them an incredible credit score, and if push came to shove they could simply raise new capital by dropping new shares on the market. People who think this'll do more to the brand than temporarily inconvenience the empire are deluding themselves. If we're in 2022 and Disney is still running the deficit and we haven't really tackled the plague situation? Then we're talking.

ultimatly somthing will need to change in the long run though. right now they are going backwards and they were having trouble well before the pandemic.
 

Sixgun McGurk

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ultimatly somthing will need to change in the long run though. right now they are going backwards and they were having trouble well before the pandemic.

Disney started as a maker of cartoons in a homogeneous society, points of cultural continuity which people laughed at and the rest built up from that. Their fundamental issue is that they are facing a balkanized crowdscape that's been taught to despise the culture, is too woke to take a joke and has been trained to go for the jugular as a first option. So their films and properties stink of SJW faux morality and that is a reek that drives most away. To win they are going to have to stop going along with the twits and take a stand.
 
Disney started as a maker of cartoons in a homogeneous society, points of cultural continuity which people laughed at and the rest built up from that. Their fundamental issue is that they are facing a balkanized crowdscape that's been taught to despise the culture, is too woke to take a joke and has been trained to go for the jugular as a first option. So their films and properties stink of SJW faux morality and that is a reek that drives most away. To win they are going to have to stop going along with the twits and take a stand.

I don't get why Hollywood is afraid of what is essentially a bunch of premondanas on social media. These are not "Normies" anyone worth thier salt very rarely uses somthing like twitter or instagram in any major capacity, in fact if your thing is to rant on twitter all day, your told to typically get a job.
 

Sixgun McGurk

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I don't get why Hollywood is afraid of what is essentially a bunch of premondanas on social media. These are not "Normies" anyone worth thier salt very rarely uses somthing like twitter or instagram in any major capacity, in fact if your thing is to rant on twitter all day, your told to typically get a job.


They are fundamentally followers. Look at the advertising in the fan magazines. El Cuervo and the like. Mexican hootch made from sewer water, shit and cactus, posed in fancy glasses with happy shiny racially diverse and oh so sophisticated people holding hands.

Hollywood is 99.999 percent made up of people that will absolutely rush to order this listerene flavored shit because they desperately want to be in the picture.

They sit nervously quivering like mice in the wall and wait to see what everyone else is doing before rushing out to don the uniform of the day. I direct your attention to the fuzzy face phenomenon. Every little douchebag in hollywierd has to run around with a t-shirt, suit jacket and two day beard pretending that they are as cool as Don Johnson was playing Sonny Crockett in 1985. The sad thing is that these tards never grow up and are unfathomably in positions of influence. I think it has to do with nepotism and inherited wealth, to the point of an aristocracy forming. A man that has seized the day and is the captain of his soul keeps his eye on the ball and pays no attention to horseshit. The Boss's widow's grandson is a moron lead by the nose, seeking reassurance and falling for every passing fad.
 
They are fundamentally followers. Look at the advertising in the fan magazines. El Cuervo and the like. Mexican hootch made from sewer water, shit and cactus, posed in fancy glasses with happy shiny racially diverse and oh so sophisticated people holding hands.

Hollywood is 99.999 percent made up of people that will absolutely rush to order this listerene flavored shit because they desperately want to be in the picture.

They sit nervously quivering like mice in the wall and wait to see what everyone else is doing before rushing out to don the uniform of the day. I direct your attention to the fuzzy face phenomenon. Every little douchebag in hollywierd has to run around with a t-shirt, suit jacket and two day beard pretending that they are as cool as Don Johnson was playing Sonny Crockett in 1985. The sad thing is that these tards never grow up and are unfathomably in positions of influence. I think it has to do with nepotism and inherited wealth, to the point of an aristocracy forming. A man that has seized the day and is the captain of his soul keeps his eye on the ball and pays no attention to horseshit. The Boss's widow's grandson is a moron lead by the nose, seeking reassurance and falling for every passing fad.


so stan lee and Walt & Roy Disney were part of the .0001%?
 

Typhonis

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Mel Brooks, back in 1987 told EVERYONE where the real money was to be had...Merchandising! But if no one wants the merchandising....how do you make money?
 

Laskar

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People who are in buisness, let me ask you somthing. Why are Disney not licensing the tar out of thier 2nd hand properties like marvel or Star wars. Like "We'll let you release this fan film into theaters and even help advertise it, if you give us a cut."
Largely for the same reasons that Homer Simpson wouldn't be let anywhere near a real nuclear reactor.

If you want it in business speak, fan productions are to a serious moneymaking business what Pacific Island cargo cults are to the military that won an industrial war in two hemispheres. They are not a good investment. What fan productions have in creativity, they generally lack in professionalism, cost control, and the ability to capture the interest of the general audience.

Fan productions can be successful, true. But this is as rare as a handful of actors walking into the woods with a camcorder and recording a 250 million dollar movie, or a bunch of frat boys dicking around in Halo multiplayer and kicking off a multimillion dollar comedy series. For every raging success you get, you'll also get ten mediocre projects and three or four more that will poison the brand.
 

Sixgun McGurk

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Jeremy from the Quartering hits on this as well. It's pretty bad.


I wonder if they've thought this through. By abandoning their movie distribution chain they've effectively opened themselves to direct competition by anyone that can buy an animation program and find people to do the voices. Disney could get hammered by something like Wallace and Grommet done on the cheap by someone with talent as opposed to connections. Much better than the frankly weird Mulan.

If you're at home and want to shut the brats down for an hour you might pay the $30, but you certainly aren't going to watch it yourself. And given that the majority doesn't like to flush that $30 what are the odds that many will simply steer the kids away from Disney altogether? There are after all many fine alternatives.
 
Largely for the same reasons that Homer Simpson wouldn't be let anywhere near a real nuclear reactor.

If you want it in business speak, fan productions are to a serious moneymaking business what Pacific Island cargo cults are to the military that won an industrial war in two hemispheres. They are not a good investment. What fan productions have in creativity, they generally lack in professionalism, cost control, and the ability to capture the interest of the general audience.

Fan productions can be successful, true. But this is as rare as a handful of actors walking into the woods with a camcorder and recording a 250 million dollar movie, or a bunch of frat boys dicking around in Halo multiplayer and kicking off a multimillion dollar comedy series. For every raging success you get, you'll also get ten mediocre projects and three or four more that will poison the brand.


Fair point I suppose. I guess I'm just looking back at the lucasfilm of old and the empire that the EU created long after films stopped being made, books, video games, toys, and I guess it just puzzles me why they don't take the risk to do somthing like that again. Especially considering that it seems like the current direction of sta wars is going mostly backwards.
 

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