• The Sietch will shortly be brought offline for HPG systems maintenance. Please remain calm and do not start any interstellar wars while ComStar is busy. May the Peace of Blake be with you. Precentor Dune
  • Hey (name)! This is a general announcement to all of our members that we have a growing Alternate History and Creative Writing section that is increasingly seeing new content. If you haven't taken a look lately, please do so and perhaps leave a comment or reaction if you read something you like! Let's support our writers!
  • For those of you who would like to support the Sietch financially, subscriptions are BACK. Simply click on Account Upgrades and you will be able to upgrade your account!
  • The 'Comrade' title is now available in a fetching communist red for purchase by all of you capitalists who survived the Sietch gulag during the people's revolution. And in the spirit of all communists everywhere, it was broken until the capitalist pig dogs fixed it. ;)
  • Your beloved Boot here with a confession. The Boot tangled its laces and failed to properly set up the new Comrade user title. Thanks to the kind intercession of Emperor Tippy this failure has been corrected and the new user title is now actually on sale to everybody.

Derek Chauvin Trial: summer 2020 electric boogaloo

Rocinante

Russian Bot
Founder
Joined
Aug 11, 2019
Reaction score
8,128
In other news, the jury has reached a decision and will be reading it to the court between 4:30-5pm EST.
 

f1onagher

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 21, 2019
Reaction score
2,389
In other news, the jury has reached a decision and will be reading it to the court between 4:30-5pm EST.
My money's on a "compromise" manslaughter charge. The murder charges have no merit, but the jury would have to be suicidal to let Chauvin off Scott free and there's enough wiggle room in the case for a decent faith manslaughter charge.
 

Vaermina

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 20, 2019
Reaction score
2,017
My money's on a "compromise" manslaughter charge. The murder charges have no merit, but the jury would have to be suicidal to let Chauvin off Scott free and there's enough wiggle room in the case for a decent faith manslaughter charge.
I know if I was a Juror, Manslaughter would be what I vote for.
 

LindyAF

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 3, 2021
Reaction score
1,917
My bet is murder 3 but not 2.

Not what I think is right obviously, but what I think they'll do.
 

LindyAF

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 3, 2021
Reaction score
1,917
My money's on a "compromise" manslaughter charge. The murder charges have no merit, but the jury would have to be suicidal to let Chauvin off Scott free and there's enough wiggle room in the case for a decent faith manslaughter charge.
My bet is murder 3 but not 2.

Not what I think is right obviously, but what I think they'll do.
Both of us rn:
Increasingly Delusional Man Who Is Certain That The System Cannot Become This Brazen BTFO Again For Seventh Time This Year
 

FriedCFour

PunishedCFour
Founder
Joined
Aug 11, 2019
Reaction score
7,228
Location
Mother Roof
Well that's getting overturned on appeal.



There are some states where it's not even legal to do that due to the standards.
Yeah I don’t even get how this is supposed to be possible. You second degree murdered someone and man slaughtered them and third degree murdered them?
 

StormEagle

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 16, 2019
Reaction score
1,304
Any chance of it getting appealed or the like?
He can always appeal.

What you should be asking is if the appeals court is as cucked as the jury that convicted him?

I doubt the appeals court is going to do anything for Chauvin, considering the shear amount of political pressure that would be coming down on them.

Chauvin is fucked at this stage.
 

Airedale260

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 8, 2020
Reaction score
1,128
Any chance of it getting appealed or the like?
I have no doubt the defense will appeal, but overturned? Doubtful. I was talking to my lawyer buddy about this...you can't get something overturned on just Waters if the evidence is clear that, absent this decision, the same verdict would have been reached. And it *was* after the jury was sequestered.

One of the Fox News commenters said it best...Chauvin let his ego run things and it wasn't his amigo. I don't think it gets overturned because on its own, I'd say the evidence is damning.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
Joined
Aug 12, 2019
Reaction score
11,485
He can always appeal.

What you should be asking is if the appeals court is as cucked as the jury that convicted him?

I doubt the appeals court is going to do anything for Chauvin, considering the shear amount of political pressure that would be coming down on them.

Chauvin is fucked at this stage.
No.
Appeal court is more likely to help him especially with Maxine Waters statement.
That alone can get Appeals court to consider this one a mistrial and he gets another one.
And gets to have Nelson once again as the defense attorney
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
Joined
Aug 12, 2019
Reaction score
11,485
I have no doubt the defense will appeal, but overturned? Doubtful. I was talking to my lawyer buddy about this...you can't get something overturned on just Waters if the evidence is clear that, absent this decision, the same verdict would have been reached. And it *was* after the jury was sequestered.

One of the Fox News commenters said it best...Chauvin let his ego run things and it wasn't his amigo. I don't think it gets overturned because on its own, I'd say the evidence is damning.
No the evidence is not damning.
Chauvin did nothing fucking wrong.
Plenty have proved it.
Nelson fucking proved it.
The jury just got fuckijg intimidated by a bunch if crazy commies and rioters.

This is like the PERFECT ad for a 2nd amendment person btw.

"On a jury and people try to scare you into voting a certain way? Carry (put your favorite firearm here) once it is all over, so if they do try something, you are ready."
 

ShadowArxxy

Well-known member
Sotnik
Joined
Aug 31, 2019
Reaction score
3,354
Any chance of it getting appealed or the like?
Every criminal case is entitled by law to an appeal; it's only further appealing an appeal (to the appeals court en banc or to the state or federal Supreme Court) that is discretionary.

The only caveat is that appeals courts do not second-guess determinations of fact made by the trial court and jury; they review technical issues of how the law was applied.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

Well-known member
Hetman
Joined
Feb 21, 2020
Reaction score
3,871
Yeah I don’t even get how this is supposed to be possible. You second degree murdered someone and man slaughtered them and third degree murdered them?
Generally each charge has different standards for the burden of proof that the prosecution has to meet. The standard to convict for Manslaughter or Murder 2 will vary wildly from third or first degree murder etc.

And Juries are obligated by law to convict solely based off those standards. Something that meets the standards for manslaughter usually doesn't for the others.

A Judge can set the verdict aside and in some states recommend the jury for a fine or something based off that.

Not just get overturned but mistrial for the appeal.
Thank you Maxime Waters
Not just that dumbass but the Press doxxing the Jury a week ago IIRC.

That's textbook criminal intimidation. You can't do that shit without causing a mistrial.
 

Abhorsen

Local Degenerate
Moderator
Staff Member
Comrade
Osaul
Joined
Jan 9, 2020
Reaction score
5,996
Location
Before the Ninth Gate
Yikes, a guilty verdict on all three? That's almost surely going to be a successful appeal...
No. It's very difficult to appeal what goes on in the jury room, unless you know racial bias or something like it occurred. Any conviction would have been appealed, the full conviction just makes it more durable, absent a full mistrial (looking at you, Maxine Waters).
Yeah I don’t even get how this is supposed to be possible. You second degree murdered someone and man slaughtered them and third degree murdered them?
Not how it works I believe. He can only be punished for one, but if only one gets overturned on appeal (usually from a technicality), the others stand, IIRC. Even if he does get punished for all 3, they'd be severed concurrently, not consecutively, which means he'd serve no extra time.
 
Top Bottom