Derek Chauvin Trial: summer 2020 electric boogaloo

Bigking321

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Yikes...

The jury was there for all the trial. They would know it was bull.

It has to be for the public that's just coming in to see the closing. They will assume it's not lies. Then there comes a not guilty and they explode with outrage.
 

Bear Ribs

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What'd she do?
Dramatically increased both the chance of riots and how bad they could get via demanding that rioters stay in the street and get "more confrontational" if there wasn't a guilty verdict.


"I hope we get a verdict that says guilty, guilty, guilty," she said in response to reporters' questions. "And if we don't, we cannot go away. We've got to stay on the street. We get more active, we've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business."

Note that's CNN, hardly a bastion of right-wing thought, and they're still lambasting this California (D)Representative. She's got a pretty long history of calling for violence.
 

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So, the jury deliberation for the trial has began, and national review has some articles covering the case.

The first is a rough summary of the case and what the mostly likely result is.

The second is about why there's now a solid chance for overturning it on appeal, because of a prejudicial comments and jury intimidation by Maxine Waters, who decided to fly down and weigh in on the case, despite having absolutely nothing to do with it and being from a different district that's in another state entirely.
 

f1onagher

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Dramatically increased both the chance of riots and how bad they could get via demanding that rioters stay in the street and get "more confrontational" if there wasn't a guilty verdict.


"I hope we get a verdict that says guilty, guilty, guilty," she said in response to reporters' questions. "And if we don't, we cannot go away. We've got to stay on the street. We get more active, we've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business."

Note that's CNN, hardly a bastion of right-wing thought, and they're still lambasting this California (D)Representative. She's got a pretty long history of calling for violence.
This is the same woman that called the 1992 LA riots an "uprising" and called for violent confrontation with Trump supporters on more than one occasion. Maxine Waters has always been a violent rabble rouser and eager provocateur. That her provocations always damage the people she eggs on seems not to matter to her and as a prominent California Democrat she has of course never faced repercussions for her actions.

If this trial misfires I hope her name and saggy mug is displayed prominently in the aftermath.
 

Vaermina

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As bear said.

But the judge said he doesn't care what a congress person has to say, as well as it makes it easier for an appeal to happen
Actually the Judge also said it might have given them a successful appeal to overturn the case.
Waters was the one who lied about the Judge saying her words didn't matter.
 

Wargamer08

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So, the jury deliberation for the trial has began, and national review has some articles covering the case.

The first is a rough summary of the case and what the mostly likely result is.

The second is about why there's now a solid chance for overturning it on appeal, because of a prejudicial comments and jury intimidation by Maxine Waters, who decided to fly down and weigh in on the case, despite having absolutely nothing to do with it and being from a different district that's in another state entirely.
They are making excuses in advance because they fucked the persecution on an overwrought charge started because of edited footage. The only people I feel bad for are the ones trapped in that city because the housing prices fucking imploded.
 

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So, the jury deliberation for the trial has began, and national review has some articles covering the case.

The first is a rough summary of the case and what the mostly likely result is.
The first gets stuff wrong. The depraved indifference standard of the 3rd degree murder is what's going to hit. Because the Jury doesn't, and shouldn't, know it's legally dubious, as juries decide facts, not law. The law question already got answered and the jury don't even know it got asked.

The Judge will give jury instructions that basically list the law, give no context (like saying it's for psychopaths or stuff like that), and isn't allowed to clarify. From what I've found from the juror instructions, there is no explanation (and the judge can't give more explanation) other than this for 3rd degree:
Definition: Under Minnesota law, a person causing the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, but without intent to cause the death of any person, is guilty of Murder in the Third Degree.
(Source: Jury instructions: What the Derek Chauvin jurors are considering)

He'll get convicted (and should be convicted) on this for holding Floyd down while knowing Floyd was without a pulse. It's clearly a dangerous act, and it shows a depraved mind.

The one possible way out is if Floyd would have died anyway, and the prosecution did a good job on that part.
 

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