Quest Deep Periphery Quest (Battletech Sandbox Empire Builder)

Joyousmadman

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[X] Wait and observe. If you cut off a Hydra’s head, two more replace it.

Our family is on the line, I say we make damn sure we get everything.
 

Tolack

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[X] Strike now, cut off the head of the snake along with all known associates and the body will die
 

Wageslave

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Joe Hill We have to exercise caution here. A martyr could galvanize the disaffected section of our society that feels we're not doing 'enough'. It's small right now, but if the story about Gem pops out....


[X] Wait and observe. If you cut off a Hydra’s head, two more replace it.
 

Jarow

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Um, the Gem conspiracy has popped out, way back in turn 3. We solved it by hunting down everyone involved (mass executions were involved). As for Black Ops guy telling our Father and being punished for it, it's pretty clear to everyone we're not our father- a lot more capable, just, etc. We're extremely popular in the population as a whole (approval) and in the legislature (Commons/Lords support).

In this case, even if they have other members involved in a desire to punish us for not solving Gem sooner, taking out the black ops team worst case (for us) removes the most effective tool they have for this kind of situation.
 

Wageslave

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Yet this popped up.

How many other things have we missed? Can we afford to *not* be thorough at this point?
 
Turn 23 - The Hunter's Strike

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Turn 23 - The Hunter’s Strike

You decide that there is very little to be gained by waiting. This is by all evidence a small cell of people with very little to no real evidence that they are part of a larger network. Stanley’s grudge was personal and not very rational at this point, you doubted he’d have cared to recruit outside the most trusted of those who shared his grudge.

Despite your half-hearted attempt to personally command the strike force you were sitting in the command center in the Palace monitoring the operation instead. You had had zero expectation of actually getting away with it, but you really wanted to be the one to look Stanley in the eye and give him the ‘Reasons You Suck’ speech.

Each of his people had a small strike team ready to grab them. The mole he had in the ATC tower was on console, the delivery driver was on a job that you’d arranged for him to get. The janitor was also under close surveillance, as were the others.

The timer ticked down… then…

“Go go go go go.” came the command from Michelle. Jane was leading the team assigned to take down Stanley himself while Michelle had overall command of the entire operation.

On screen you watched as a pair of plain clothes agents entered the ATC tower, dressed as safety inspectors for the ‘scheduled’ safety inspection. So they were able to easily get close to the mole… and hit him with a stun baton and knock him unconscious before he even knew he was in danger.

The delivery driver had arrived at the job site, as soon as he exited the truck to open the rear gate he was smoothly taken down by two tranq darts fired from a sniper. The janitor likewise succumbed to a pair of tranq darts.

The rest were swarmed by tactical teams, none of them were in places where they could be tricked into vulnerability. So each take down favored speed and overwhelming force over subtlety once the go order was given.

Well, most of them, Jane had dressed up as a Girl Scout, made herself look as cute and winsome as she could, and had gotten Stanley to come to the door to hear her pitch for why he should buy some cookies… where he promptly got a tranq dart to the neck and a stun baton jammed into his crotch. Jane could be vicious.

One of the targets, the faux security guard, was killed when he managed to pull a pistol and open fire on the take down squad, causing them to return fire with lethal force, but the rest of the cell were captured.

Your shoulders slump, this was an immense relief to you that this was over. Sarah and Willis were both still in comas, but this was over. Except for the trials, but that was almost a formality at this point.

Well, mostly a formality. There was something you wanted to do that you thought might help defuse any other ‘bombs’ of this nature.

You’d already gotten in contact with Leah Goodwin and had had a long discussion with her. She was surprisingly fine with the situation, her reputation had been cleared up in the aftermath of the Gem Conspiracy, she’d put in her 20, as she put it, and retired a Major, and had a small retirement ‘shack’ as she put it on Capricorn where she was living with ‘Lady’, the Grifftiger who’d claimed her. She didn’t seem to mind being claimed either.

She’d actually self-published a book on the ethics of black and deniable operations, drawing on the ethics degree she’d earned following her retirement. She offers to send you a signed copy, which you accept. Security scans it carefully before letting you have it, of course, but they find nothing and it is a quite interesting read.

You extend to her an offer to serve as ombudsman to the new Special Branch of the Queen’s Own, which she gratefully accepts. Evidently she wasn’t joking about the ‘shack’, but she’d been content there. Her and Lady move to Griffsport and soon she has a second job as a guest lecturer on military ethics at the Aerie.

Mack Hogan had not been directly part of the Gem Conspiracy, just a useful psychopath. He’d been arrested for Murder One almost twenty years ago when he’d bludgeoned a waitress to death over a spilled drink. You’d not noticed in all the chaos of that period, but he’d been put to death for that crime 15 years ago.

None of the other ‘black ops’ sorts that you’d ever interacted or considered were at all interesting, most were fully retired, none of them had done anything that would require your attention or concern.

You do have to decide how to handle the trials, however. Part of you wants a public spectacle to prove that justice is being done and that the threat is handled, part of you wants to handle it quietly out of a sense of remorse for what your father had done to the perpetrators that had inspired this.

[] Public Trial. Let Justice Be Done, Even If The Sky Should Fall
[] Private Trial. They need to be punished for their crimes, but that punishment shouldn’t include public humiliation.
 

Jarow

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[X] Public Trial. Let Justice Be Done, Even If The Sky Should Fall

Get everything out in the open, let Justice be done. We do need to make sure to do what we can to un-punish the team for standing against our father on the Gem conspiracy though.
 

Vilegrave

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[X] Private Trial. They need to be punished for their crimes, but that punishment shouldn’t include public humiliation.

He's a broken man who's a product of a darker time, sure what he did was monstrous but we can at least prove we're better than our father by sparing the needless public humiliation congaline.

He lived in the dark, he dies in the dark, thats the only mercy we can give him at this point.

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[X] Public Trial. Let Justice Be Done, Even If The Sky Should Fall

Get everything out in the open, let Justice be done. We do need to make sure to do what we can to un-punish the team for standing against our father on the Gem conspiracy though.
That will only escalate things, he might have gone into hiding with his small group but he'll likely be known to quite a few longserving people in the military and/or other veterans.

Turning this into a spectacle by making it public runs the risk of radicalizing those few who sympathize with the utterly shit deal he got from our father.
 

Wageslave

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In the previous series of votes it was suggested that we give recognition for their service then punishment for their crimes.

We kind of have to do the public trial, we don't have a choice given the line that's been drawn.

This does not, however, preclude a previous private hearing wherein all charges related to dealing with the Gem conspiracy are dropped and a pardon *for those actions* given, with all due honors restored *for that situation*. Give them at least the honor that they earned, and they can go to their grave with their heads held high (as much as we do not want to let them have that) and with little complaint AND an understanding that *they were right* and they *crossed a line*.

[X] Private Hearing on Gem-related actions.
-[X] Public Trial. Let Justice Be Done, Even If The Sky Should Fall
 

Vilegrave

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In the previous series of votes it was suggested that we give recognition for their service then punishment for their crimes.

We kind of have to do the public trial, we don't have a choice given the line that's been drawn.

This does not, however, preclude a previous private hearing wherein all charges related to dealing with the Gem conspiracy are dropped and a pardon *for those actions* given, with all due honors restored *for that situation*. Give them at least the honor that they earned, and they can go to their grave with their heads held high (as much as we do not want to let them have that) and with little complaint AND an understanding that *they were right* and they *crossed a line*.

[X] Private Hearing on Gem-related actions.
-[X] Public Trial. Let Justice Be Done, Even If The Sky Should Fall
If thats your line of thinking then everything, Gem-related included, should be done publicly.

That way it's seen as fair, we absolve them of the Gem stuff then condemn them for the real Treason, we shouldn't hide half of the reason this happened.
 

Jarow

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[X] Public Trial. Let Justice Be Done, Even If The Sky Should Fall
-[X] Public vindication for original actions under our father

Don't think it needs a full trial to say they did the right thing; not sure if this is the best wording (if someone comes up with better phrasing I'd be happy to change), but it probably does need to be included in my official vote instead of just discussed in my thoughts about the vote
 

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[X] Private Trial. They need to be punished for their crimes, but that punishment shouldn’t include public humiliation.

These gentlemen, for all of their flaws, and their acts, once loyally served the Crown, and were shabbily betrayed by it. I see no need to humiliate them further. It's a crappy buisness all around, there's no need to make it worse.

And, there are certain sources and methods that MUST remain secret. It would harm planetary security very badly. No, in this case, what must be done must remain in the shadows.


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Panzerkraken

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[X] Public Trial. Let Justice Be Done, Even If The Sky Should Fall
-[X] Public vindication for original actions under our father

And, there are certain sources and methods that MUST remain secret. It would harm planetary security very badly. No, in this case, what must be done must remain in the shadows.

Sources and Methods is a euphemism for things that an open society shouldn't be doing and honestly doesn't apply to this situation. Everything for the last 20 years of Our reign has been keynoted on openness, and these former heroes might have earned some kind of quietude if they'd made a less public attempt on the royal family. They're guilty, and the methods they used to enact their operation were nothing that We should approve of, or that We have approved of previously.

Especially considering how, instead of some kind of suicide mission, they took it on themselves to attempt regicide, then to lay the blame on Our citizens of Asian descent, then Our citizens deserve to KNOW that these Soldiers who were wronged under the former King made a dishonorable choice, and attempted to hide their dishonor by playing on the fears of the public and the prejudices of a minority by laying the blame on an innocent and loyal segment of the public.

So it seems fitting that their offenses should be expunged and their ranks and even back pay reinstated, just prior to the formal charges of murder, attempted murder, and assault on the Royal Family be read, and all broadcast to explain to the public that this is NOT the rough times of Our Grandfather, or the corrupt times of Our Father, but Our Time, which is one of openness and accountability.

... I may have gotten a bit much into the spirit of the thing there.
 

kelgar04

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[X] Private Trial. They need to be punished for their crimes, but that punishment shouldn’t include public humiliation.

they were loyal to the crown once they deserve this at the very least.
 

Thors_Alumni

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[X] Private Trial. They need to be punished for their crimes, but that punishment shouldn’t include public humiliation.
 
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