Quest Deep Periphery Quest (Battletech Sandbox Empire Builder)
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Jarow
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[X] Enter a tech sharing agreement
I'll admit to some nervousness over exactly how much to give NRR, but we do need to give them at least something so they don't get blown up by Black Steel.
We're definitely ahead of everyone else. Not quite sure how far ahead we are of NRI, But Griffon's Roost (the planet, not counting Nowy Gdansk and Griffon IV in the same system) and Nowa Warzsawa are both independently better off than the entire NRR. I'd guess that New Rasalhague is around Calliope levels right now.
We do indeed have Iron Wombs, which definitely help. We also have some of Kilborrough's Iron wombs (currently making us super babies while we figure out our own genetic engineering)
I'll admit to some nervousness over exactly how much to give NRR, but we do need to give them at least something so they don't get blown up by Black Steel.
We're definitely ahead of everyone else. Not quite sure how far ahead we are of NRI, But Griffon's Roost (the planet, not counting Nowy Gdansk and Griffon IV in the same system) and Nowa Warzsawa are both independently better off than the entire NRR. I'd guess that New Rasalhague is around Calliope levels right now.
We do indeed have Iron Wombs, which definitely help. We also have some of Kilborrough's Iron wombs (currently making us super babies while we figure out our own genetic engineering)
Val the Moofia Boss
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[X] Enter a tech sharing agreement
[X] Offer the Black Pumpernickels some military and coordination exercises in exchange for acting lessons for the Royal Family. Tell them it'll make their more modern productions seem more realistic.
[X] Offer the Black Pumpernickels some military and coordination exercises in exchange for acting lessons for the Royal Family. Tell them it'll make their more modern productions seem more realistic.
Winter_Wind45
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[X] Enter a tech sharing agreement
[X] Offer the Black Pumpernickels some military and coordination exercises in exchange for acting lessons for the Royal Family. Tell them it'll make their more modern productions seem more realistic.
[X] Offer the Black Pumpernickels some military and coordination exercises in exchange for acting lessons for the Royal Family. Tell them it'll make their more modern productions seem more realistic.
[X] Offer the Black Pumpernickels some military and coordination exercises in exchange for acting lessons for the Royal Family. Tell them it'll make their more modern productions seem more realistic.
Picking up that write-in too, because it makes sense and ... maybe gets the Pumpernicks to stick around a few more turns too.
Picking up that write-in too, because it makes sense and ... maybe gets the Pumpernicks to stick around a few more turns too.
Turn 78 - When Owls Call The Breathless Moon
Turn 78 - When Owls Call The Breathless Moon
You really aren’t that interested in sports. You know that the Pan-Griffon Games are going on, your wife and granddaughter are attending them here on Griffon, but you are far too busy to waste time with them. You hear plenty about the day's events from your granddaughter at the dinner table anyways, so it’s not like you aren’t in the loop about things.
It looks like another dominating performance from the ‘big three’ teams of Griffon, Nowa Warszawa, and Calliope, with a few surprises from other systems. New Capricorn actually managed to win a pair of golds, beating out Team Griffon each time in Men’s Athletics and Women’s Gymnastics. Nowy Wroclaw took gold in Men’s Archery, while Edelsteine and, surprisingly, Griff’s Leap took the two top spots in Women’s Athletics, with Nowa Warszawa edging out Griffon for the bronze.
The Great Periphery Studies War Of 3008 is still underway in the parks around the Palace. You have so far resisted your granddaughter and wife attempting to get you to put on a golden monstrosity of fake power armor and parade around to ‘inspire the Imperium of Man!’. Your little sister is free to make a fool of herself, you just know that if you do it that it will only inspire those idiots in the NRI who are ‘worshiping’ you.
The discussions with the NRR and NRI continue as well. For now you are getting down to the brass tacks on the tech sharing agreement.
The NRR has requested a few specific things, first assistance rebuilding their jumpship yard over New Rasalhague, secondly production licenses for the Eagle III, Raptor II, Merlin and both the new Shrike, which hasn’t even entered service with your forces yet, and the Peregrine interceptors, and finally production licenses for a Majeure Electrique escort carrier design that never actually entered service but which is in their product catalog, a 19,900 ton spheroid vessel that carries a full wing of ASFs.
In effect you’d be transferring rotary autocannon, enhanced PPC, extended range 5cm laser, gauss rifle, improved long range missile, and Artemis tech to the Rasalhaguians, on top of DHS and Ferro Aluminium tech. The core of the Rasalhaguian military are their ASF forces, however, and this would allow them to upgrade their ASF units to modern technology and allow them to deploy alongside your forces to enhance your screening capabilities.
The NRI, in contrast to the NRR, isn’t particularly interested in military tech, although they again reiterate that once ‘several current projects’ are completed they will share the results with you, while remaining utterly vague about what these projects actually are. What they do want is your automation and education technology. In some ways this is less problematic, as it doesn’t require you to give them any of your advanced weapons and such, but in others this could have a negative impact on your relative economic advantage over the NRI. Giving them the automation and education tech would allow them to compete on a more level playing field with your companies, which the corporate world would really rather they didn’t.
Parliament, meanwhile, is being rather quiet this year. Routine bills and business, yes, but nothing truly serious. The only legislation that makes it to your desk that isn’t perfectly ordinary is the Community Banking Act of 3008.
The Community Banking Act of 3008 would encourage the growth of small community banks by extending below market rate credit lines to qualified institutions under the same terms and conditions imposed on the large consumer banks that currently receive these credit lines. The idea is that this will decentralize the financial system, allowing for a greater diversity of competition within the financial markets while maintaining the same standards for liquidity, transparency, and solvency. The current big players are mildly opposed to this, mostly on grounds of self-interest, and the proposed qualifications and requirements are eminently reasonable. Existing community banks are cautiously in favor, primarily due to concerns about the increased reporting requirements.
Other concerns are that it would require a large initial investment to set up the new credit lines and that it would have an ongoing cost to the treasury to maintain, but it is expected that the increase in available high-quality credit and financial instruments would have long term positive returns on the investment.
You really aren’t that interested in sports. You know that the Pan-Griffon Games are going on, your wife and granddaughter are attending them here on Griffon, but you are far too busy to waste time with them. You hear plenty about the day's events from your granddaughter at the dinner table anyways, so it’s not like you aren’t in the loop about things.
It looks like another dominating performance from the ‘big three’ teams of Griffon, Nowa Warszawa, and Calliope, with a few surprises from other systems. New Capricorn actually managed to win a pair of golds, beating out Team Griffon each time in Men’s Athletics and Women’s Gymnastics. Nowy Wroclaw took gold in Men’s Archery, while Edelsteine and, surprisingly, Griff’s Leap took the two top spots in Women’s Athletics, with Nowa Warszawa edging out Griffon for the bronze.
The Great Periphery Studies War Of 3008 is still underway in the parks around the Palace. You have so far resisted your granddaughter and wife attempting to get you to put on a golden monstrosity of fake power armor and parade around to ‘inspire the Imperium of Man!’. Your little sister is free to make a fool of herself, you just know that if you do it that it will only inspire those idiots in the NRI who are ‘worshiping’ you.
The discussions with the NRR and NRI continue as well. For now you are getting down to the brass tacks on the tech sharing agreement.
The NRR has requested a few specific things, first assistance rebuilding their jumpship yard over New Rasalhague, secondly production licenses for the Eagle III, Raptor II, Merlin and both the new Shrike, which hasn’t even entered service with your forces yet, and the Peregrine interceptors, and finally production licenses for a Majeure Electrique escort carrier design that never actually entered service but which is in their product catalog, a 19,900 ton spheroid vessel that carries a full wing of ASFs.
| Name | Cost | Materials | HP | A/D | Specials |
| Saginaw-class Escort Carrier | $1,302,644 | FAA, DHS | 431 | 281 |
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In effect you’d be transferring rotary autocannon, enhanced PPC, extended range 5cm laser, gauss rifle, improved long range missile, and Artemis tech to the Rasalhaguians, on top of DHS and Ferro Aluminium tech. The core of the Rasalhaguian military are their ASF forces, however, and this would allow them to upgrade their ASF units to modern technology and allow them to deploy alongside your forces to enhance your screening capabilities.
| [] | Action | Pro | Con | Effect |
| [] | Agree to Rasalhaguian Request | Getting the NRR up to scratch will allow us to benefit from their historical emphasis on strong ASF forces, reducing the pressure on our own production capacity. They aren’t asking for warships, after all, they are making very reasonable requests. | Don’t forget that they used to be part of the Dragon! Just because they had been conquered by them in the past is no reason to forgive them. We’ll share tech with the NRI, screw the Rasalhaguians. |
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| [] | Decline Rasalhaguian Request | The Rasalhaguians cannot be trusted with advanced tech. We’ll share tech with the Romans, but the Rasalhaguians weren’t always on our side and will inevitably betray us. | We are allies and the Rasalhaguians have suffered from the Dragon even more than we have, just because they were enslaved by the monster doesn’t make them monsters themselves. |
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The NRI, in contrast to the NRR, isn’t particularly interested in military tech, although they again reiterate that once ‘several current projects’ are completed they will share the results with you, while remaining utterly vague about what these projects actually are. What they do want is your automation and education technology. In some ways this is less problematic, as it doesn’t require you to give them any of your advanced weapons and such, but in others this could have a negative impact on your relative economic advantage over the NRI. Giving them the automation and education tech would allow them to compete on a more level playing field with your companies, which the corporate world would really rather they didn’t.
| [] | Action | Pro | Con | Effect |
| [] | Agree to the Roman request | While the automation and education technologies are important to your economy, don’t forget that they were developed by the state, not private industry, and thus they belong to you, not them. Sharing with the Romans would, in the opinion of some economists, actually have a net benefit to you both. | My market share! My profit margins! Why should I have to compete with the Romans fairly when I can just swamp their markets with cheap mass produced goods and watch my bottom line rise. Giving away any such benefit is not to our, and more importantly my, interest. |
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| [] | Decline the Roman request | Why should we be helping anybody compete with us? We need to take care of ourselves first and foremost, and if the Romans can’t compete with us that’s their problem, not ours. | Strong trade partners benefit both sides of the equation, even if some of the current beneficiaries of the skewed markets will squeal like stuck pigs. What the corporate types aren’t considering is that this will also boost NRI military production, allowing them to better support us. |
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Parliament, meanwhile, is being rather quiet this year. Routine bills and business, yes, but nothing truly serious. The only legislation that makes it to your desk that isn’t perfectly ordinary is the Community Banking Act of 3008.
The Community Banking Act of 3008 would encourage the growth of small community banks by extending below market rate credit lines to qualified institutions under the same terms and conditions imposed on the large consumer banks that currently receive these credit lines. The idea is that this will decentralize the financial system, allowing for a greater diversity of competition within the financial markets while maintaining the same standards for liquidity, transparency, and solvency. The current big players are mildly opposed to this, mostly on grounds of self-interest, and the proposed qualifications and requirements are eminently reasonable. Existing community banks are cautiously in favor, primarily due to concerns about the increased reporting requirements.
Other concerns are that it would require a large initial investment to set up the new credit lines and that it would have an ongoing cost to the treasury to maintain, but it is expected that the increase in available high-quality credit and financial instruments would have long term positive returns on the investment.
| [] | Action | Pro | Con | Effect |
| [] | Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008 | Community banks are highly flexible and responsive to the needs of local communities, far more so than the big commercial banks. Extending credit lines in this manner will provide them with the capital they need to expand operations and grow, providing more and better service to communities across the Empire. | We shouldn’t be meddling and subsidizing these small banks, the risks are much higher than with the large, established, banks who have proven by becoming large and established to be safe and reliable financial partners. If the small banks survive on their own, more power to them, but we shouldn’t be helping or hindering them. |
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| [] | Veto the Community Banking Act of 3008 | Our banking model has been built on large commercial banks from the beginning, with the smaller community banks aspiring to eventually become one of the big players. We shouldn’t penalize those banks who’ve made it by subsidizing those who haven’t. It’s expensive and unneeded. | Increasing competition in financial markets prevents too much power from concentrating in too few hands. Best to increase the pool of players rather than pander to the small circle of current players. Community banks serve their communities, this Act will help them do this better. |
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Jarow
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[X]Agree to Rasalhaguian Request
More than I'd like to give them, but given they aren't getting capital-scale weapons it's not too big a risk.
[X]Agree to the Roman request
I'm happy strengthening our good friends who worship us. Automation is one of my planned next civilian research projects, so we should have the advantage again soon enough.
[X]Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008
Hopefully the events are useful, it's a lot of money if the benefits only hit us once. Though, we do get $23b to play with this turn, which will help.
More than I'd like to give them, but given they aren't getting capital-scale weapons it's not too big a risk.
[X]Agree to the Roman request
I'm happy strengthening our good friends who worship us. Automation is one of my planned next civilian research projects, so we should have the advantage again soon enough.
[X]Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008
Hopefully the events are useful, it's a lot of money if the benefits only hit us once. Though, we do get $23b to play with this turn, which will help.
Skitzyfrenic
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[X]Agree to Rasalhaguian Request
[X]Agree to the Roman request
[X]Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008
All of this seems pretty reasonable, and they didn't ask for any techs (other than automation) I was really wary of giving them.
Though:
I'm pretty satisfied with this turn of events. Though it begs the question of if the NRI and NRR are sharing with each other? Cause that would be sneaky, and kinda doo doo for us, like sour relations doo doo. But unless our tech sharing agreement explicitly states that they can't share with each other... /me shrugs. What can you do?
edit: I'd be willing to edit that in, if the group at large feels that stipulating they can't share with each other won't be negative from our PoV.
[X]Agree to the Roman request
[X]Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008
All of this seems pretty reasonable, and they didn't ask for any techs (other than automation) I was really wary of giving them.
Though:
We can go even further beyond.
I'm pretty satisfied with this turn of events. Though it begs the question of if the NRI and NRR are sharing with each other? Cause that would be sneaky, and kinda doo doo for us, like sour relations doo doo. But unless our tech sharing agreement explicitly states that they can't share with each other... /me shrugs. What can you do?
edit: I'd be willing to edit that in, if the group at large feels that stipulating they can't share with each other won't be negative from our PoV.
Val the Moofia Boss
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[X]Agree to Rasalhaguian Request
[X]Agree to the Roman request
[X]Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008
[X]Agree to the Roman request
[X]Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008
AlphaOmega
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[X]Agree to Rasalhaguian Request
[X]Agree to the Roman request
[X]Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008
[X]Agree to the Roman request
[X]Approve the Community Banking Act of 3008
Jarow
Well-known member
Pretty sure they are sharing at least some stuff. Militarily this doesn't affect too much, given NRI is uninterested in anything but Gauss (and they invented what we use), and NRR is way behind us, but I'm not too concerned if they end up sharing the civilian stuff we gave the NRI.