Quest Deep Periphery Quest (Battletech Sandbox Empire Builder)

Val the Moofia Boss

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Stat wise, option #3 gives us +1 to crown influence and +1 approval and +1 approval change. Option #4 gives us +2 approval and +2 approval change. Looking at the spreadsheet, our approval is already at 80 and approval change at 75. Our CrownInfluence is at 8 (not sure if it caps at 10?). So relatively speaking, going for option #4 to raise our approval from 80/75 to 82/77 isn't really meaningful, whereas raising out crown influence from 8 to 9 is more meaningful.

In universe, I prefer option 3 more. It's simple and direct. I'm not fond of elaborate speeches that are a cover for something that is supposed to be simple and direct.

[X] Order the new delegates/senators seated via Imperial Decree

As you still have complete dominance over the orbitals the initial phase of the invasion, at least, should be smooth as butter.

Yeah I have a feeling it's not going to be as smooth as butter. Inb4 they're baiting our ground forces into their cities and then blowing up their own cities just to spite us. There is no way they know they aren't doomed and they should already know that their compatriots were executed, so at this point they have really no reason not to be spiteful and try to exact maximum carnage on their way out, salting the earth and all that.

The safest option might to just starve them out, and then swoop in once they are too weak to resist, though who knows how much food they have and that could just give them even more time to set up bombs and to execute civilians.

[X] Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment

I suspect we'll lose a large chunk of our forces to the bad guys choosing to go out in a blaze of glory, but alas the show must go on.
 

ShadowArxxy

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[X] Use your right to summon a joint session of the Parliament to make a speech directly outlining the failure to follow the Charter and at the end swear in the new delegates and senators personally, bypassing Parliament’s rules

We take a political hit no matter what, but this way we make it clear to the public that we are using our sovereign authority to *enforce and uphold* the rules of the system rather than breaking the rules as a tyrant. I would argue that this is more important than the "better meta gain" of option #3.

[X] Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 

Jarow

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For the first part (regardless, ouch. Will begin trying to fix it as soon as I can)
[] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
- Simplest option
[] Vigorously campaign against the Parliament, pointing out their defiance of the Charter despite their rhetoric otherwise
- Offers a bit more approval for another hit to how happy parliament is with us
[] Order the new delegates/senators seated via Imperial Decree
- Gives us influence, which is something we actually don't want.
[] Use your right to summon a joint session of the Parliament to make a speech directly outlining the failure to follow the Charter and at the end swear in the new delegates and senators personally, bypassing Parliament’s rules
- Bigger hit to support, but the extra large influence hit gives us more time to fix it. The extra politics hit doesn't help us though.

I think I'm going to go with
[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
All the options but #3 are pretty viable though. I personally prefer one of the two ends, but #2 is also pretty functional.

In simpler matters,
[X] Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
We decided to continue prosecuting the war this turn, should probably make sure to actually go all in on it.
 

Rukatin

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[X]Order the new delegates/senators seated via Imperial Decree
[X]Approve Operation Breastplate without 2nd RRF redeployment
 

kelgar04

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[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
[X]Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 

ShadowArxxy

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Comrade
Stat wise, option #3 gives us +1 to crown influence and +1 approval and +1 approval change. Option #4 gives us +2 approval and +2 approval change. Looking at the spreadsheet, our approval is already at 80 and approval change at 75. Our CrownInfluence is at 8 (not sure if it caps at 10?). So relatively speaking, going for option #4 to raise our approval from 80/75 to 82/77 isn't really meaningful, whereas raising out crown influence from 8 to 9 is more meaningful.

You're forgetting that raising Crown Influence to 9 is "more meaningful" in an extremely bad way. It activates "Tyrant" plot events due to the Crown becoming so powerful that significant portions of the population start believing that there are no meaningful checks and balances on royal authority.
 
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Thors_Alumni

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[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
[X]Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
[X]Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 

AlphaOmega

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[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
[X]Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment

There is no way they know they aren't doomed and they should already know that their compatriots were executed,
How would they know? They don't have HPGs, they have no jumpships and even if they had we control the jump points, anyone who could give them this information has no physical way of doing that so I doubt they know what exactly happened even if they have strong suspicions when we invade them with three divisions.
 

Artifex

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[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system

Seems to me that this would also be an excellent opportunity to ensure that the judicial system is up to snuff in these matters, because this will be setting a precedent!

[X] Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 

Winter_Wind45

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[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
[X] Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 

Trashman.exe

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[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
[X]Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 

kashim3

Texan, Mandalorian, Alabamian.
[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
[X]Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 

Orangeduke38

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[X] Coordinate with the new delegates/senators to deal with this via the Judicial system
[X]Approve Operation Breastplate with 2nd RRF redeployment
 
Turn 62 - But You Can Come Along With Me

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Turn 62 - But You Can Come Along With Me

It doesn’t take long for the courts to rule on the case, and the new delegates and senators are seated. There is, however, a great deal of lingering animosity from Parliament, making it much more difficult for you to work with them for the near future. Ah, well, elections are in two years, hopefully you’ll be able to handle the problem children then.

In the Pan Griffon Games, the TTP and Nowa Warszawa teams split the honors in Archery, although the overall quality of competition is low enough that experts are not expecting much improvement for the team in two years at the Olympics.

The Men’s Military Pentathlon is crippled by the fact that nearly all of the ordinary competitors are assigned to 2nd Armored and 2nd Infantry, and so are not available for the competition. Recruits from the Aerie make up the three teams and what they lack in precision and experience they make up for with vim and vigor. And an absurd willingness to do things that more sober and experienced participants would avoid. You resolve to check but are pretty certain that all of Team Griffon originates from Pollux, because some of their antics are of the ‘witness me’ quality you’ve come to expect from Pollux Man. Trying to improve their scores on the pistol ranges by dual wielding for that ‘two gun mojo’? Really? Cadets these days, Sergeant Major Ngo had firmly sat on you when you went through your two gun mojo phase, which never happened and there are absolutely no pictures and zero evidence of it so kids these days, right?

At least the women’s team from Griffon in the pentathlon had multiple veterans from 1st Armored who were able to participate, leading to them completely dominating the competition despite the youthful high spirits of the other two teams.

In the soccer matches for the Games the competition is extremely tight on both the men’s and the women’s side, with some excellent play. Granted, you have to take the commentators' word for it because you are still not quite sure about this ‘offsides’ thing and tend to get easily distracted as players kick a ball around for no apparent reason that makes sense to you. The sudden shouts and screams that cause you to pay attention again usually just make you even more confused because even with the video board showing replays you tend to still have no clue what just happened and why it was worthy of shouting and screaming, since the score was still 0-0 after, you checked your watch, an hour of play.

You admit it, you don’t get soccer, and probably never will.

The TTP players put on a dominating show in baseball. Unlike soccer, which seems to you to be ‘fast paced with nothing happening’, baseball is slow-paced, but things happen that are comprehensible. Plus it seems the fans in the stadium are having a great deal more fun with things unrelated to the play on the field, what with the ‘hot dog races’ and such. You actually find yourself roped into wearing a ridiculous outfit and joining in, which was quite fun.

You were a hot dog, running around the warning track racing other hot dogs, and it was actually funny. Your grandkids loved it as well.

The softball tournament was a skill tour de force for Team Griffon, with the team so utterly dominating the competition that they pitched multiple no-hitters, and two of their pitchers pitched perfect games, including in the final game of the tournament.

And now it is budget time.

Joy.

General Stewart kicks things off. “Your Majesty, we are committed to building at least one White Tower this year in New Capricorn, and we recommend building one as well in GX-C9 to physically stake our claim on the system. Other than that, we strongly recommend continuing to expand our production base. This took a back seat last year, but we really do need to expand our strategic, mech, and ASF production capacity. We will have 2 Oasis II stations at least coming online in several years, and each one requires 4 wings of ASFs. Each White Tower requires a single wing, and each Silver Tower station we might build requires 3.”

She takes a look at her notes, dispensing with any slides or presentation. “For Ground Forces, we recommend procuring 3 Armored Cavalry Regiments and a single Light Horse Regiment, for 3rd Armored and 3rd Infantry respectively. We also recommend procuring 3 Mechanized Regiments for 3rd Infantry. The savings from reduced procurement we strongly recommend go into expanding our industrial capacity for new Mech production.”

“We have also been working on a new unit structure, procurement of which in an efficient manner will be highly dependent on expansion of our light Mech production capacity.” She continues. “We are calling this an Armored Cavalry Division, which would be organized as follows.” She finally brings up a graphic on the display.
  1. 1st Brigade
    1. 1 Pathfinder Regiment
    2. 1 Special Forces Regiment
    3. 1 Mechanized Regiment
  2. 2nd Brigade
    1. 2 Armored Cavalry Regiment
    2. 1 Light Horse Regiment
  3. 3rd Brigade
    1. 2 Armored Cavalry Regiment
    2. 1 Light Horse Regiment
  4. 4th Brigade
    1. 2 Armored Cavalry Regiment
    2. 1 Light Horse Regiment
  5. 5th Brigade
    1. 1 Mechanized Regiment
    2. 1 Armored Regiment
    3. 1 CAS Regiment

“We have also worked out a final unit organization chart for the Imperial Guard.”
  1. 1st Brigade
    1. 3 Armored Cavalry Regiments
  2. 2nd Brigade
    1. 2 Imperial Guard Regiments
    2. 1 Assault Regiment
  3. 3rd Brigade
    1. 2 Imperial Guard Regiments
    2. 1 Assault Regiment
  4. 4th Brigade
    1. 2 Imperial Guard Regiments
    2. 1 Assault Regiment
  5. 5th Brigade
    1. 1 Armored Cavalry Regiment
    2. 1 Assault Regiment
    3. 1 CAS Regiment

“As you can see, we are removing the Winged Hussar ultralights from front line service; they will be reassigned to the Palace Protection Detail. We are also formally retiring the Lion and Tiger assault tanks from service, although this is more a formality as there are no such vehicles currently in service. Further, the 8 Garrison Armored Regiments in service are being transitioned to standard Armored Regiments, retiring several older combat vehicles as well thus further rationalizing and streamlining procurement. Finally the old Light and Heavy Garrison forces are being transitioned to a new Garrison Division set up. The TO&E for a Garrison Division will be as follows.”
  1. 1st Brigade
    1. 2 Garrison Regiment
    2. 1 Mech Hunter Regiment
  2. 2nd Brigade
    1. 2 Garrison Regiment
    2. 1 Mech Hunter Regiment
  3. 3rd Brigade
    1. 3 Garrison Regiment
  4. 4th Brigade
    1. 3 Garrison Regiment
  5. 5th brigade
    1. 3 CAS Regiment
“Our existing Light Garrison Forces will be converted into a single Garrison Division, to be stationed on Griffin’s Roost. Each Heavy Garrison Force will be converted into a full Garrison Division, with 1 stationed on Nowy Gdansk, 1 on Nowa Warszawa, and 1 on Griffon IV.”

QM Note - All in game statistics for vehicles and formations are available at this website, in the near future (it is my next project) I will be completely rewriting the TRO Deep Periphery Quest as well

The most Pro of all Powerpoint Pro’s, General Powerpoint Pro herself, then steps up to the podium with… a Powerpoint. And it is Pro. Very Pro. With animated transitions and everything. Clearly the work of a dedicated Powerpoint Pro. Which General Reyes certainly is.

If she weren’t so good at running the Aerospace Force you’d be tempted to strangle her with her own remote control.

“Your Majesty, we will be unable to meet all production targets this year. Ferro-Aluminium production is simply not sufficient to construct all of the ASFs that we will require to build 9 wings of ASFs. At this time we have enough of that strategic resource to build only 5 wings of ASFs, assuming zero dropship construction this year. As such, and again operating on the assumption of zero dropship production, we can produce the following.”
  • 3 Attack Carrier Wings (⅜ of requirements)
  • 2 Fighter Wings (100% of requirements) assuming we purchase 2 White Tower stations this year.

“The situation becomes even more dire once the Oasis IIs come online. Your Majesty, we simply need to vastly increase our Ferro Aluminium production capacity, and we need to do so immediately.”

She yields the floor to Thanh. “Your Majesty, we in the Navy concur with our Aerospace colleagues, we desperately need to increase Ferro Aluminium production. As such we are proposing a temporary freeze on Dropship production this year, beyond those commissioning this year. The funds thus freed up could then be directed towards building up our Ferro Aluminium production capacity significantly. We could also order the scrapping of all of our more obsolete 1st generation Dropship designs. If we were to scrap rather than preserve all examples of the Tyrannosaurus, Warrior, Lightning, Megaraptor, and Devastation classes the museums would be upset, but we would have sufficient Ferro Aluminium available to build 5 more Attack Carrier Wings, thus filling all of our flight decks. If we were to also scrap all of the Troodons, including the ones currently earmarked for museums, we would be able to produce a single Majestic this year.”

Thanh takes a deep breath. “To be honest, I very strongly recommend against this course of action as being excessively short-sighted. Keeping those old vessels in reserve, with some sent to museums, would give us the ability to reactivate them in case of emergency as well as providing serviceable space frames to the System Guard for conversion into SAR, Tug, and patrol vessels which will save us a great deal of money in the long term. And speaking in a less utilitarian way, it would be the case of destroying portions of our history rather than preserving them for future generations.”
[]Scrap them all
[]Scrap all but the Troodon’s
[]Thanh is right, preserve them

Bridget is fidgeting a bit in her seat as Thanh sits down, then pops up and bounces over to the podium. “Your Majesty we’re ready to begin the pre-colonization survey on New Capricorn IV at your word and also to build anything that you need including all of those Ferro Aluminium forges that the flygirls say we need really badly and I agree because we can build them for them and then we would be able to build more ASFs and dropships and stuff and my staff has also come up with methods of directly investing in the economies of our less prosperous colonies and affiliates which should help us boost them up to the level of the Griffon system much more quickly than would otherwise be the case which is a really good idea we think and I hope you agree with that but we can do all of that and build stuff at your world since remember we have an idle DoME team and idle DoME teams are scary things because you really don’t want to see the ideas they get when they’ve got nothing occupying them so maybe an Asteroid Redirect mission to help boost Nowa Warszawa would be a good idea, or maybe Calliope IV but we think and AR mission is the best use of their time”

One… long… endless… sentence… and she never once stopped to breathe.

Isoroku is off working with the Olympic committee, and his aides report nothing new from his end.

Jake is looking grumpy, the massive blow up in Parliament has truly offended the big Pole, and he looks rather irritated that he’s having to deal with them. “Your Majesty, I’m still working on the Senate, we have the education projects in progress, and I’m all set to start trying to thump some sense into the Chamber to get them to focus on doing their job rather than playing politics.”

Mary is looking old. Serene, but old. “Your Majesty, I have two things. I plan on retiring next year, and will have candidates for my replacement on your desk by next month, and while we have no new projects for you we have several recommendations for how to utilize our research teams efficiently.”
  • Military R&D (1 team available)
    • Thumper Cannon
      • Relatively inexpensive and a potentially interesting technology
  • Non-Military R&D (3 teams available)
    • All 3 Basic Compact Core R&D projects
      • Would allow us to design and build Warships at least

She sits back down.

Harry is also unavailable, still on Nowa Warszawa working with his teams there to handle the surge in violence on the planet in conjunction with law enforcement.

Janet likewise is on Nowa Warszawa and isn’t available, her aide is there and informs you that there aren’t any new projects from the Justice Department.
 

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