Quest Deep Periphery Quest (Battletech Sandbox Empire Builder)
- Thread starter LordSunhawk
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[X] In Principle sure, let’s talk about it
As we're probably going to give them smaller but still optimized dropships rather than jumping straight to giving them supersized monster ships armed with SubCaps + advanced weapons probably shouldn't mention the pure military variant of the Yacht just yet.
As we're probably going to give them smaller but still optimized dropships rather than jumping straight to giving them supersized monster ships armed with SubCaps + advanced weapons probably shouldn't mention the pure military variant of the Yacht just yet.
Ehhh, the cat is pretty firmly out of the bag with us 'showing off' against the pirates and with the Royal Yacht being so overtly fancy.
And? it doesn't matter if they know what we have, it'd still be a bad idea to give them something on the level of a Troodon or a Megaraptor right away (let alone anything larger) before we've had more time getting to know the NRI.
At the very least getting much better relations with them before we start handing out the big honking space guns is a good idea so we can guarantee there won't be issues in the future, let them have smaller but still powerful ships first and see how their attitudes change.
The Megaraptor actually doesn't have any subcaps on it. It's just a well-optimized, small-midsize carrier DropShip.
Oh i know that its just its still more gun than i'd be comfortable gifting them with until we've got a better grasp of their general attitudes/progressed things to the point we're firm allies rather than just business partners/peers.
If we do start making stuff for them at this point i'd prefer it to be on the level of the Defiant/Microraptor to begin with (with improved gauss replaced with the normal kind unless they already have it + ERPPC's replaced with more gauss/UAC's to fit their tendencies/reduce the amount of tech they can study), they're still strong and we'd get to see how the NRI use them over time.
The Dino themed ships are relatively similar to each other anyway from what i can tell so it'd also double as letting them get experience with the smaller stuff and the Griffonian layout (as i doubt we setup our internals the same way) so they have an easier time when we finally do give them larger stuff.
TyrantTriumphant
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[X] In principle sure, let's talk about it.
You're not making any sense. We aren't *ever* going to be gifting them anything; we might be willing to *sell* them things.
It was a figure of speech rather than literally saying we'd hand it over as a gift, my bad.
In any case, I've previously pointed out that the Velociraptor is an excellent choice for an export DropShip because unlike our larger droppers, it will fit in the 5000 ton bays of the NRI's Primitive JumpShips.
Decim
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Wouldn't be too hard, really. Take the ER PPCs and DHS, and strip those out for enough normal PPCs and SHS to be heat neutral, then use all the freed weapons weight for AMS and Clantech Gauss (cause the Romans have those). It wouldn't be ultra efficient like the current generation designs that Desi loves making, but it's still be incredibly powerful for its size, if rather dependent on ammo.
Turn 50-NRI - Stronger!
Turn 50-NRI - Stronger!
You attend another meeting with the military leadership of the NRI for an overall briefing on their current situation, as a sort of ‘here’s why we really need what you might have to sell us’ thing. And it’s… not the best. Not grim, but worrisome. Pirate raids are up 25% and it appears that the pirates have either found somebody willing to sell them more advanced kit or they’ve managed to build production capacity somewhere. Moreover, the pirates appear to have obtained drop collar equipped jumpships from some source.
When you see the imagery you barely resist the urge to face palm, it looks like the pirates have somehow hooked up with the Dracs, as the markings on several of the ‘pirate’ Tramps are very familiar to you from the early raids on Griffin’s Roost.
It’s not all bad, the NRI has a new dropship class in service inspired by reports and previous tech exchanges. The Quinquereme-class has proven itself in combat against the pirates and even assisted in the capture of one of the Tramps. However losses have been heavy and the NRI is in desperate need of assistance. They are building Quinqueremes as fast as their production facilities allow, but for every two built they lose one, albeit after killing three to four times its tonnage in enemy units.
What the NRI is requesting is something to supplement the Quinquereme, something in the same tonnage range, but armed with subcapital weapons. They are willing to outright give you the captured Tramp in exchange for the design work and the use of subcaps, and will purchase at full price all combat dropships that you are willing to sell to them. They are also willing to trade you their best gauss rifle technology in exchange for ASFs, their latest design doesn’t use any strategic materials and they are willing to hand over the full production specifications for them. They will buy ASFs for a 25% premium over the ‘regular’ purchase price.
The initial deal offered would thus be as follows.
Meanwhile in the Wide World of Sports, the competition opens in the pool… and the Griffin’s Roost athletes utterly dominate their NRI rivals with the Romans only winning a single bronze medal across all swimming events. The medal count somewhat conceals how hard the Romans worked, as the actual time margins between the winning swimmers and the first Roman ones is very small, in the Women’s 500 meter freestyle, for example, 1st to 4th place (the highest placed Roman swimmer) is separated by about a tenth of a second. There does seem, to your pleasure, to be a great deal of Olympic comradeship between the competitors on both teams, they raced hard, but afterwards they joined together to celebrate either personal bests or victories with no rancor.
The decathlon is another gold medal sweep for Griffin’s Roost after two days of fierce competition. Both the men’s and women’s teams do exceptionally well. In the men’s event there is an example of superb sportsmanship, two competitors in the 1500 meter hurdles collide with each other and go down, but both athletes get back up and proceed to help each other complete the course before they limp over to the medical personnel who clear them for further competition once they’ve gotten a chance to recover a bit.
The shooting competitions saw flawless performances by both the men’s and women’s Griffon teams. Once again the Griffin’s Roost teams dominate the podium.
Two tough days for the Romans is punctuated with their sole victory in the Men’s marathon. The Roman and Griffon competitors managed a true photo finish, with the Roman runner edging out the Griffon one by literally a fingertip length. The women’s race is almost as close, with the Griffon women winning by a hands length. Considering it was a marathon, such incredibly close finishes are very spectacular.
You attend another meeting with the military leadership of the NRI for an overall briefing on their current situation, as a sort of ‘here’s why we really need what you might have to sell us’ thing. And it’s… not the best. Not grim, but worrisome. Pirate raids are up 25% and it appears that the pirates have either found somebody willing to sell them more advanced kit or they’ve managed to build production capacity somewhere. Moreover, the pirates appear to have obtained drop collar equipped jumpships from some source.
When you see the imagery you barely resist the urge to face palm, it looks like the pirates have somehow hooked up with the Dracs, as the markings on several of the ‘pirate’ Tramps are very familiar to you from the early raids on Griffin’s Roost.
It’s not all bad, the NRI has a new dropship class in service inspired by reports and previous tech exchanges. The Quinquereme-class has proven itself in combat against the pirates and even assisted in the capture of one of the Tramps. However losses have been heavy and the NRI is in desperate need of assistance. They are building Quinqueremes as fast as their production facilities allow, but for every two built they lose one, albeit after killing three to four times its tonnage in enemy units.
What the NRI is requesting is something to supplement the Quinquereme, something in the same tonnage range, but armed with subcapital weapons. They are willing to outright give you the captured Tramp in exchange for the design work and the use of subcaps, and will purchase at full price all combat dropships that you are willing to sell to them. They are also willing to trade you their best gauss rifle technology in exchange for ASFs, their latest design doesn’t use any strategic materials and they are willing to hand over the full production specifications for them. They will buy ASFs for a 25% premium over the ‘regular’ purchase price.
The initial deal offered would thus be as follows.
- You will obtain the following up front
- 1 Tramp jumpship, will require refurbishment
- Clan-grade Gauss Rifle and regular AMS
- You would agree to the following
- Turn over 1 subcapital weapon design
- Design a 5000 ton size class dropship using said subcapital weapon
- Sell said dropships for full price to the NRI (the profit factor will come from the difference in production cost to you and said full price)
- Produce ASFs which do not require strategic materials at a 25% profit factor over production costs
| [] | It’s a deal! |
| [] | Not gonna happen |
| [] | Counter-offer (write-in) |
Meanwhile in the Wide World of Sports, the competition opens in the pool… and the Griffin’s Roost athletes utterly dominate their NRI rivals with the Romans only winning a single bronze medal across all swimming events. The medal count somewhat conceals how hard the Romans worked, as the actual time margins between the winning swimmers and the first Roman ones is very small, in the Women’s 500 meter freestyle, for example, 1st to 4th place (the highest placed Roman swimmer) is separated by about a tenth of a second. There does seem, to your pleasure, to be a great deal of Olympic comradeship between the competitors on both teams, they raced hard, but afterwards they joined together to celebrate either personal bests or victories with no rancor.
The decathlon is another gold medal sweep for Griffin’s Roost after two days of fierce competition. Both the men’s and women’s teams do exceptionally well. In the men’s event there is an example of superb sportsmanship, two competitors in the 1500 meter hurdles collide with each other and go down, but both athletes get back up and proceed to help each other complete the course before they limp over to the medical personnel who clear them for further competition once they’ve gotten a chance to recover a bit.
The shooting competitions saw flawless performances by both the men’s and women’s Griffon teams. Once again the Griffin’s Roost teams dominate the podium.
Two tough days for the Romans is punctuated with their sole victory in the Men’s marathon. The Roman and Griffon competitors managed a true photo finish, with the Roman runner edging out the Griffon one by literally a fingertip length. The women’s race is almost as close, with the Griffon women winning by a hands length. Considering it was a marathon, such incredibly close finishes are very spectacular.
Jarow
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Want!
Clan Grade Gauss/AMS aren't bad either, but a three collar jumpship is very much something we need right now. In exchange, we get the ability to sell things at a profit to them (if a lesser one than could possibly be acquired), get a use for open ASF production slots, and help build up anti-Drac defenses in a current ally.
[X] It’s a deal!
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
[X] Its a deal!
Thors_Alumni
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[X] It’s a deal!
Panzerkraken
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[X] It’s a deal!
[X] It's a deal!
TyrantTriumphant
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[X] It’s a deal!
UltimatePaladin
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[X] It’s a deal!