Culture Corporate Journalism is a Scourge on our Democracy.

Certified_Heterosexual

The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
Corporate journalism is the greatest threat to public discourse today, for two reasons.

1) As I detailed in my other journalism essay, these outlets still serve as our society's information gatekeepers and interpreters (by virtue of their access to copious corporate funding and the residual "reputation" these outlets maintain). Someone might counter that the widespread availability of the Internet has allowed for the rise of alternative sources of information and interpretation. This is true, however it brings us so the second threat generated by journalism as it is currently practiced:

2) Censorship, or "unpersoning," as a Twitter wag recently put it. These alternative sources, whether they are large entities like Infowars or an anonymous shitposter on Twitter, are under the constant threat of deplatforming (i.e. losing access to the mechanism by which they can spread information) largely due to journalists. If journalists didn't create the current deplatforming phenomenon (credit goes to mentally unstable academics and student activists), they've certainly been responsible for spreading it from college campuses into every facet of public life.

At the root of censorship is controversy. If your speech isn't controversial, then nobody will try and shut you up. And if the person upset by your speech isn't powerful, then he can't shut you up. It's really that simple. To that end, it's somewhat ironic to point out that the loyal subject in a dictatorship has, in effect, total free speech— because it would never occur to him to speak out against that dictatorship.

Similarly, in the United States, those who belong to the mainstream Left— which almost the entire media class does— are never for one second under any fear of censorship, and simply cannot understand those who are. Worse than that, like the loyal subject in a dictatorship, they are suspicious, fearful, and hateful towards those who are. Again, this all applies most consequentially to the media class by virtue of their role as information gatekeepers. They determine whose speech becomes controversial. Or perhaps more accurately, they determine whose controversial speech becomes amplified, attacked, and misrepresented. Alex Jones questioning mass shootings wasn't controversial when he did it, because nobody cared. It only became controversial, or became an important controversy worthy of wall-to-wall coverage, five years later when he started openly supporting President Trump instead of ranting about how all politicians were dupes of the New World Order. In short, the corporate media possesses the power to slander totally and effectively— unlike, as I noted in my other essay, any of us who do not possess the funding or "reputation" that these outlets do.

But being able to slander is not on its own enough to silence. It requires a social environment conducive to accepting, propagating, and acting on slander. The slander promoted by corporate journalism is regarded as acceptable, both legally speaking due to New York Times v. Sullivan (which allows media outlets to fall back on the circular argument that by slandering their target he ipso facto becomes a public figure), and socially speaking due to the continued perception of these media outlets as "reputable" sources of information among certain segments of the population. Their slander is propagated, not merely by the outlet that initiates the campaign, but also by other outlets who lazily and maliciously spread the slander.

Corporate journalism is not engaged in some grand conspiracy (merely a bunch of smaller penny-ante conspiracies), but by virtue of journalists existing in the same milieu and sharing the same set of beliefs and assumptions it is all but guaranteed that they will serve to amplify each other's lies. Their slander is acted on, by the companies that do possess the power to censor— social media firms like Twitter, payment processors like Paypal, online vendors like Amazon— and who accept the slander at face value. So while journalists themselves may not directly censor, and in fact will disingenuously disassociate themselves from censorship ("I'm merely reporting on this troubling trend..." etc.), they are the chief drivers behind our nation's dangerous descent into corporate authoritarianism.

At every level of this story there are complexities and contradictions that need to be broken down. What do I mean when I say that there's "the continued perception of these media outlets as 'reputable'?" After all, the media is more distrusted now than perhaps every before. But crucially the media continues to maintain its "reputation" among the corporations it reports on, interacts with, and is funded by (their residual "reputation" is traded for corporate funding, and that funding in turn allows these outlets to continue to maintain a "reputable" visage). These outlets also continue to be widely read by intellectual, cultural, and political elites (to whom access is conditionally granted) as well as by a national minority of rabidly politicized citizens for whom the increased partisanship of the media is precisely what drives their patronage of it. This is part of why corporate media has remained remarkably resilient (though journalists continue to get fired by the dozens, the outlets themselves press on with impunity) in the face of massive declines in readership, embarrassing scandals, and increased competition.

What do I mean when I say that their slander is spread both "lazily and maliciously?" The motivations of the journalist are an open question, and I think generally there are two lines of thinking— journalistis either a lazy, cynical mediocrity who slanders for money and power, or he is a blinkered ideologue who slanders for the cause. Naturally the best analyses combine these two explanations which more often than not act in concert. In fact, I think that is what makes journalists so dangerous. Furthering their own careers and advancing their blinkered sociopathic ideology go hand in hand. The journalist does not, and cannot, distinguish between the two, leading to a sort of feedback loop whereby their worst instincts are continually reinforced. Also, in my opinion, any explanation of events that assumes self-awareness on the part of the journalist (for example, that they knew they were slandering the Sandmann kid but did it anyways) is always going to be flawed. They aren't even aware that the articles they produce are mangled messes of misrepresentations because it is standard practice in the field, because it propagates their own personal viewpoint, and because such productions are financially remunerative. It would never even occur to the journalist to give a smug-looking kid wearing a MAGA hat the benefit of the doubt. Why would it?

What do I mean when I say that "their slander is acted on?" It is a bit misleading, after all. "Acted on" implies that journalists are a sort of bystander to the actual performance of censorship, unaffiliated with the third party (corporations) doing the censoring. But this, as we all know, is untrue. Media outlets are directly funded by the censors. For instance, Amazon bankrolls the Washington Post. Through its Google News Initiative, Google is distributing hundreds of millions of dollars to various journalistic programs and Facebook maintains a similar fund (the Facebook Journalism Project). Indeed Google's manipulated search service, and its news service, generate huge amounts of clicks for media outlets. The various "Trust and Safety" councils at places like Twitter, and "Fact Checking Partners" at places like Facebook— which are to a certain degree responsible for the censorship policies of these corporations— are replete with journalists. Not to mention that the various slander campaigns in which journalists continually engage often occur largely on the social media platforms from which they demand censorship. That is, they use Twitter to demand that Twitter deplatform people— while the people being deplatformed are unable to defend themselves... by virtue of being denied access to the platform!

To this point, as the Internet gets larger, corporations have a tighter grip on content. This is because beyond a certain volume, people are forced to rely on intermediate services to find content. (With some websites this went even further, with corporations refusing access to domain registration.) Google can effectively purge sites and video creators from the Internet, because if you can't be found on their massive monopolistic platforms, you simply cease to exist for a large number of people.

Social media came at just the right time for liberals, and due to the ideology of tech companies it delivered unprecedented levels of social control... while simultaneously the social effects of technology made liberals more paranoid, and hence more willing to use their new power to censor enemies.

I find myself drifting away from my main topic, but it is also a factor in the growing anti-conservatism of journalism. Journalists share presumption, sense of mission, and ideological affinity with Big Tech, which, just when media consolidation has made journalists more powerless and answerable to corporate oligarchs, gives them an outlet and influence for punishing their ideological enemies.

What exposes the ethical depravity of journalism is its willingness to idly spectate as government and corporations are allowed to become more invasive and more punitive toward dissent. There have been no dark warnings from the liberal media establishment about the dangers of corporate censorship or the unpersoning of harmless individuals; they, as liberals, embrace it out of paranoia, petty hate, and injured ego.

Corporate media is driven by a set of perverse incentives. Their slanderous censorship campaigns are financially beneficial (both in the sense that it harms competing alternative media and the controversy generated drives clicks) and ideologically sound (their Leftist worldview being premised on the idea that the only way to stop authoritarianism is to engage in it). Bad practice is standardized and celebrated. Megalomania sets in. Journalists are incapable of accepting criticism, much less self-criticism. They believe their own power over the distribution and interpretation of information should be unlimited, and actively work towards that end. The corporate media, in short, is an organized crime ring, and it must be broken up.
 
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One thing I do wonder is how far the censorship will go?

Will eventually certain opinions and outlets be suppressed all together, or simply removed from any large platform?

Thus-the only people exposed to ideas the powers that be want suppressed are those who already believe in/or are sympathetic to them.

YouTube has gotten praise from academics and the NYT for suppressing conspiracy content, and they advocate currently for making it not recommended for the bulk of its users(they are at pains to say they aren’t advocating outright censorship-just ensuring most people don’t see it).

Thing is-this works. Control of mass psychology and beliefs doesn’t require you suppress or get the compliance of the outliers-someone who gets their news from the wrong thinkers can continue to do so(eventually outright censorship will likely happen but fore the meanwhile) but the ideas, policies and values advocated by marginalized political and ideological individuals, outlets and ideologies-will never be spread to a wide audience.

This can apply against the left as well-depending on the left that is.

The aim here is ensure the bulk of the population is only and continually exposed to and taught what the elites want. If the NYT and Washington Post are all you know-alternate media will never occur to you as something to seek out much less trust.

The aim is to control the broad mass of public opinion. Whether intentionally or structurally.

Infowars or some random esoteric monarchist blog(or Trotskyite website) will no longer be seen by most people, not linked or recommended or cited.

The powers that be are likely content if those on the fringes-those disinclined to accept their authority and truth as a given still view outlets they see as dangerous, still do so. But their views and more importantly information will be removed from mainstream exposure.

That to me-is the core of corporate based censorship.

If the books in the bookstore that go against the book store owner are at the back end of the bookstore and never seen or read by more than the few people already familiar with them-then the book store owner need not remove those books all together.

TLDR: Basically the mass of the population is under the sway corporate “journalism”, the margins are suppressed or denied any platform beyond their small inbuilt audiences.
 

TyrantTriumphant

Well-known member
Of course the question then is, what do we do about it? It's all well to talk about the media being a problem, many Americans have said this for decades. But how can the conservative movement solve this problem?
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Of course the question then is, what do we do about it? It's all well to talk about the media being a problem, many Americans have said this for decades. But how can the conservative movement solve this problem?

Easy, just ignore it and watch/read/listen to something else

It'd be hypocritical AF to illegalise them
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Conservatives have been doing that since the 70's. See how well that's worked out.

Well, try countering it with your own, though that’d be called out as being unreliable “as well” or “if not worse”

That said, I think it helps to remind people things like how people who aren’t left like T&A and have fun with videogames as well and are creators themselves

BabylonBee and TheHardTimes whilst satire sites are weirdly enough pretty funny and probably are gonna get attention soon
 

*THASF*

The Halo and Sonic Fan
Obozny
Corporate journalism is the greatest threat to public discourse today, for two reasons.

1) As I detailed in my other journalism essay, these outlets still serve as our society's information gatekeepers and interpreters (by virtue of their access to copious corporate funding and the residual "reputation" these outlets maintain). Someone might counter that the widespread availability of the Internet has allowed for the rise of alternative sources of information and interpretation. This is true, however it brings us so the second threat generated by journalism as it is currently practiced:

2) Censorship, or "unpersoning," as a Twitter wag recently put it. These alternative sources, whether they are large entities like Infowars or an anonymous shitposter on Twitter, are under the constant threat of deplatforming (i.e. losing access to the mechanism by which they can spread information) largely due to journalists. If journalists didn't create the current deplatforming phenomenon (credit goes to mentally unstable academics and student activists), they've certainly been responsible for spreading it from college campuses into every facet of public life.

At the root of censorship is controversy. If your speech isn't controversial, then nobody will try and shut you up. And if the person upset by your speech isn't powerful, then he can't shut you up. It's really that simple. To that end, it's somewhat ironic to point out that the loyal subject in a dictatorship has, in effect, total free speech— because it would never occur to him to speak out against that dictatorship.

Similarly, in the United States, those who belong to the mainstream Left— which almost the entire media class does— are never for one second under any fear of censorship, and simply cannot understand those who are. Worse than that, like the loyal subject in a dictatorship, they are suspicious, fearful, and hateful towards those who are. Again, this all applies most consequentially to the media class by virtue of their role as information gatekeepers. They determine whose speech becomes controversial. Or perhaps more accurately, they determine whose controversial speech becomes amplified, attacked, and misrepresented. Alex Jones questioning mass shootings wasn't controversial when he did it, because nobody cared. It only became controversial, or became an important controversy worthy of wall-to-wall coverage, five years later when he started openly supporting President Trump instead of ranting about how all politicians were dupes of the New World Order. In short, the corporate media possesses the power to slander totally and effectively— unlike, as I noted in my other essay, any of us who do not possess the funding or "reputation" that these outlets do.

But being able to slander is not on its own enough to silence. It requires a social environment conducive to accepting, propagating, and acting on slander. The slander promoted by corporate journalism is regarded as acceptable, both legally speaking due to New York Times v. Sullivan (which allows media outlets to fall back on the circular argument that by slandering their target he ipso facto becomes a public figure), and socially speaking due to the continued perception of these media outlets as "reputable" sources of information among certain segments of the population. Their slander is propagated, not merely by the outlet that initiates the campaign, but also by other outlets who lazily and maliciously spread the slander.

Corporate journalism is not engaged in some grand conspiracy (merely a bunch of smaller penny-ante conspiracies), but by virtue of journalists existing in the same milieu and sharing the same set of beliefs and assumptions it is all but guaranteed that they will serve to amplify each other's lies. Their slander is acted on, by the companies that do possess the power to censor— social media firms like Twitter, payment processors like Paypal, online vendors like Amazon— and who accept the slander at face value. So while journalists themselves may not directly censor, and in fact will disingenuously disassociate themselves from censorship ("I'm merely reporting on this troubling trend..." etc.), they are the chief drivers behind our nation's dangerous descent into corporate authoritarianism.

At every level of this story there are complexities and contradictions that need to be broken down. What do I mean when I say that there's "the continued perception of these media outlets as 'reputable'?" After all, the media is more distrusted now than perhaps every before. But crucially the media continues to maintain its "reputation" among the corporations it reports on, interacts with, and is funded by (their residual "reputation" is traded for corporate funding, and that funding in turn allows these outlets to continue to maintain a "reputable" visage). These outlets also continue to be widely read by intellectual, cultural, and political elites (to whom access is conditionally granted) as well as by a national minority of rabidly politicized citizens for whom the increased partisanship of the media is precisely what drives their patronage of it. This is part of why corporate media has remained remarkably resilient (though journalists continue to get fired by the dozens, the outlets themselves press on with impunity) in the face of massive declines in readership, embarrassing scandals, and increased competition.

What do I mean when I say that their slander is spread both "lazily and maliciously?" The motivations of the journalist are an open question, and I think generally there are two lines of thinking— journalistis either a lazy, cynical mediocrity who slanders for money and power, or he is a blinkered ideologue who slanders for the cause. Naturally the best analyses combine these two explanations which more often than not act in concert. In fact, I think that is what makes journalists so dangerous. Furthering their own careers and advancing their blinkered sociopathic ideology go hand in hand. The journalist does not, and cannot, distinguish between the two, leading to a sort of feedback loop whereby their worst instincts are continually reinforced. Also, in my opinion, any explanation of events that assumes self-awareness on the part of the journalist (for example, that they knew they were slandering the Sandmann kid but did it anyways) is always going to be flawed. They aren't even aware that the articles they produce are mangled messes of misrepresentations because it is standard practice in the field, because it propagates their own personal viewpoint, and because such productions are financially remunerative. It would never even occur to the journalist to give a smug-looking kid wearing a MAGA hat the benefit of the doubt. Why would it?

What do I mean when I say that "their slander is acted on?" It is a bit misleading, after all. "Acted on" implies that journalists are a sort of bystander to the actual performance of censorship, unaffiliated with the third party (corporations) doing the censoring. But this, as we all know, is untrue. Media outlets are directly funded by the censors. For instance, Amazon bankrolls the Washington Post. Through its Google News Initiative, Google is distributing hundreds of millions of dollars to various journalistic programs and Facebook maintains a similar fund (the Facebook Journalism Project). Indeed Google's manipulated search service, and its news service, generate huge amounts of clicks for media outlets. The various "Trust and Safety" councils at places like Twitter, and "Fact Checking Partners" at places like Facebook— which are to a certain degree responsible for the censorship policies of these corporations— are replete with journalists. Not to mention that the various slander campaigns in which journalists continually engage often occur largely on the social media platforms from which they demand censorship. That is, they use Twitter to demand that Twitter deplatform people— while the people being deplatformed are unable to defend themselves... by virtue of being denied access to the platform!

To this point, as the Internet gets larger, corporations have a tighter grip on content. This is because beyond a certain volume, people are forced to rely on intermediate services to find content. (With some websites this went even further, with corporations refusing access to domain registration.) Google can effectively purge sites and video creators from the Internet, because if you can't be found on their massive monopolistic platforms, you simply cease to exist for a large number of people.

Social media came at just the right time for liberals, and due to the ideology of tech companies it delivered unprecedented levels of social control... while simultaneously the social effects of technology made liberals more paranoid, and hence more willing to use their new power to censor enemies.

I find myself drifting away from my main topic, but it is also a factor in the growing anti-conservatism of journalism. Journalists share presumption, sense of mission, and ideological affinity with Big Tech, which, just when media consolidation has made journalists more powerless and answerable to corporate oligarchs, gives them an outlet and influence for punishing their ideological enemies.

What exposes the ethical depravity of journalism is its willingness to idly spectate as government and corporations are allowed to become more invasive and more punitive toward dissent. There have been no dark warnings from the liberal media establishment about the dangers of corporate censorship or the unpersoning of harmless individuals; they, as liberals, embrace it out of paranoia, petty hate, and injured ego.

Corporate media is driven by a set of perverse incentives. Their slanderous censorship campaigns are financially beneficial (both in the sense that it harms competing alternative media and the controversy generated drives clicks) and ideologically sound (their Leftist worldview being premised on the idea that the only way to stop authoritarianism is to engage in it). Bad practice is standardized and celebrated. Megalomania sets in. Journalists are incapable of accepting criticism, much less self-criticism. They believe their own power over the distribution and interpretation of information should be unlimited, and actively work towards that end. The corporate media, in short, is an organized crime ring, and it must be broken up.

This is all 100% correct, and it should've been obvious by the simple fact that our media is owned by a tiny handful of monopolistic corporations.


The funny thing is, it was 32 years ago when Noam Chomsky wrote Manufacturing Consent, and I'm not sure exactly what happened, but his message seems to have completely faded into obscurity among modern left-wing thought.



Nowadays, it's more common to see left-wingers siding with liberals and shilling for corporate media and aiding and abetting their disgusting propaganda than the opposite. Criticism of media is taken as a de facto right-wing extremist opinion, in spite of the fact that the left used to have a long history of criticizing corporate media.

Just because modern media parrots left-wing messages, that doesn't make them allies to the left. Any leftie who is fooled by their honeyed words doesn't realize they're being taken for a ride. These companies are all Security State mouthpieces. Every last one of them. Their side is the side with the billionaires and seedy little NGOs, and their interests are far from representing what the common man wants.

The right-wing and the left-wing should band together in repudiation of this disgusting propaganda spew.
 

Tryglaw

Well-known member
This is all 100% correct, and it should've been obvious by the simple fact that our media is owned by a tiny handful of monopolistic corporations.


The funny thing is, it was 32 years ago when Noam Chomsky wrote Manufacturing Consent, and I'm not sure exactly what happened, but his message seems to have completely faded into obscurity among modern left-wing thought.



It reminds me of what Albert Einsten once wrote, on why "popular" democracy in a modern "mass" society can't work - for democracy to work (properly) the electorate needs to be able to make informed, rational choices based on unbiased, "real" so to say information, provided by independent media in an objective, unbiased way, without "backstage" agendas.

In other words, truth without spin.

Which is simply not possible - information is provided by "mass" media, which is neither independent nor unbiased.

All media outlets are beholden to interests of their owners (be they financial, political or ideological), no matter if the owners are state or private, and to interests of money needed to keep said media going. These interests impose their own biases, meaning the media push the narrative desired by their owners / controllers, not the truth as it is.

Without access to "truth as it is", the electorate can't make rational, informed choices, and merely rubberstamps this or that line fed to it by the media system.

Thus, whoever controls the flow of information can influence / control what choices democratic electorates made based on provided information, in turn corrupting democracy reducing it into a facade that merely legitimises choices and agendas pushed by those who own the media / financial / political system.

And the US is a great example of that, in theory it has a two-party system, yet it could be argued that in fact the US has a single party system, namely the Big Money Party that happens to have two wings / factions - Democrats and Republicans, and sub-factions within those.
Yet both are in equal measure beholden to / bought and paid for by Big Money / Big Donor interests, just various factions or coteries of it. Especially considering the average US Congressman / Senator will be a millionaire / multi-millionaire, beholden to billionaires / multi-billionaires whose money got him elected...*

Now, in ancient Greece, where the city states were small enough that those interested could participate directly and directly obtain information based on which they make their choices this was different (even though still not perfect), but with the growth and spread of modern "mass" societies, direct democracy was replaced by representative one, and that in turn is subject to control of information flow that determines what the electorate is "permitted" to know / make choices over.

IIRC in France it's the same deal, all media are owned by 3 conglomerates / families.

*Edit: in addition, in modern era you practically can't get elected without:
1. Money to run your campaing,
2. "Friendly" media (that takes both money to "buy" and not going up against interests of those who own the media).

Both of the above make one beholden to Big Money and media owners, and when you consider these tend to be the same... Now, of course, some exceptions may happen now and then, but the entirety of political system is large, entrenched and inert enough that and exception to the rule won't actually matter.
 
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Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
The only way I see around corporate journalism is accepting the inevitable bias of various papers and the like, then deregulate the shit out of the industry, allow competition to pop up without fear of being censored and hope for the best. More Free Speech is usually the solution to a lot of problems.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
The only way I see around corporate journalism is accepting the inevitable bias of various papers and the like, then deregulate the shit out of the industry, allow competition to pop up without fear of being censored and hope for the best. More Free Speech is usually the solution to a lot of problems.

That could work, only problem is being bought out by older and probably already way more crazy media
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
That could work, only problem is being bought out by older and probably already way more crazy media

Well hopefully in this situation, media that tries to report news would be a bit like the Imperial Guard in Warhammer40k. "For every one of us that falls, ten more will take his place." That aside, no one should need to sell themselves out which would make things more difficult for old media trying to buy everything out again.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Well hopefully in this situation, media that tries to report news would be a bit like the Imperial Guard in Warhammer40k. "For every one of us that falls, ten more will take his place." That aside, no one should need to sell themselves out which would make things more difficult for old media trying to buy everything out again.

Problem is, I think people have bought into how the Free Market or unregulated market is evil as it will allow them the evil to buy smaller companies
 

*THASF*

The Halo and Sonic Fan
Obozny
It reminds me of what Albert Einsten once wrote, on why "popular" democracy in a modern "mass" society can't work - for democracy to work (properly) the electorate needs to be able to make informed, rational choices based on unbiased, "real" so to say information, provided by independent media in an objective, unbiased way, without "backstage" agendas.

In other words, truth without spin.

Which is simply not possible - information is provided by "mass" media, which is neither independent nor unbiased.

All media outlets are beholden to interests of their owners (be they financial, political or ideological), no matter if the owners are state or private, and to interests of money needed to keep said media going. These interests impose their own biases, meaning the media push the narrative desired by their owners / controllers, not the truth as it is.

Without access to "truth as it is", the electorate can't make rational, informed choices, and merely rubberstamps this or that line fed to it by the media system.

Thus, whoever controls the flow of information can influence / control what choices democratic electorates made based on provided information, in turn corrupting democracy reducing it into a facade that merely legitimises choices and agendas pushed by those who own the media / financial / political system.

And the US is a great example of that, in theory it has a two-party system, yet it could be argued that in fact the US has a single party system, namely the Big Money Party that happens to have two wings / factions - Democrats and Republicans, and sub-factions within those.
Yet both are in equal measure beholden to / bought and paid for by Big Money / Big Donor interests, just various factions or coteries of it. Especially considering the average US Congressman / Senator will be a millionaire / multi-millionaire, beholden to billionaires / multi-billionaires whose money got him elected...*

Now, in ancient Greece, where the city states were small enough that those interested could participate directly and directly obtain information based on which they make their choices this was different (even though still not perfect), but with the growth and spread of modern "mass" societies, direct democracy was replaced by representative one, and that in turn is subject to control of information flow that determines what the electorate is "permitted" to know / make choices over.

IIRC in France it's the same deal, all media are owned by 3 conglomerates / families.

*Edit: in addition, in modern era you practically can't get elected without:
1. Money to run your campaing,
2. "Friendly" media (that takes both money to "buy" and not going up against interests of those who own the media).

Both of the above make one beholden to Big Money and media owners, and when you consider these tend to be the same... Now, of course, some exceptions may happen now and then, but the entirety of political system is large, entrenched and inert enough that and exception to the rule won't actually matter.

The rise of Wikileaks and Edward Snowden and the rest heralded an era of whistleblower journalism that revealed some uncomfortable truths about the manner in which we are governed. It pulled back the curtain, so to speak. People started seeing that us tinfoil folk were actually onto something. We started to see that an unaccountable Security State was running everything and democracy provided us only the illusion of control.

But instead of getting angry at their governments, most people got angry at us.

After all, how dare we unseat their comfortable little illusions?



When someone has a choice between knowing an uncomfortable truth or a comforting lie, they will choose the comforting lie nine times out of ten. The mass media does not have to work very hard at all to aid this process. All they really have to do is tell some people what they want to hear, and some other people what they don't want to hear, making sure to be as sensationalist and polarizing as possible, and then, people will uncritically accept the media as their ally or as their enemy.

The media's lies provide comfort to so many, when you criticize them, you look insane, like a rabid dog. They rely on this, promulgating messages that their would-be allies will uncritically accept, along with ones that their enemies will react to with unhinged furor. They know that anyone who lashes out at them will be undermining their own credibility with those who accept these messages, further accelerating the polarization.



The goal of modern mass media is not to inform people at all. Manipulating and polarizing the public's reactions is the goal. This is why they feel so threatened by independent journalism and the blogosphere, and have done everything in their power to damage the credibility of blogs. They know that if they lose control of the narrative for even one second, they're completely screwed.

Did you know that there were people - and media spin doctors - who were trying to say that Trump invented and promoted the term "fake news?"

That, in itself, is ironically fake news.


Trump didn't start using the term until early 2017. His opponents were using it months before that, mainly to smear independent media and blogs and accuse them of failing fact checks, all to try and shore up their control over the narrative.

Our mass media can make any old nonsense sound like the truth, and they can make anyone they despise look like a crackpot.

They don't use their power to inform, but to destroy.
 
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CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
@Reveille
Kazynsci may have been a dangerous douche AnPrim with a love for bombs, but I think even he had a point in that "the rebellion" has long been turned into "the establishment" and has long since exploited our thoughts/desires to rebel

Partially because most people aren't really critical thinkers
 

*THASF*

The Halo and Sonic Fan
Obozny
@Reveille
Kazynsci may have been a dangerous douche AnPrim with a love for bombs, but I think even he had a point in that "the rebellion" has long been turned into "the establishment" and has long since exploited our thoughts/desires to rebel

Partially because most people aren't really critical thinkers

Yeah, and Hot Topic sells Che Guevara and Anarchy symbol T-Shirts. Of course rebellion is commercialized. Entertaining such thoughts acts as a relief valve for public frustration. There are plenty of people who are aware enough to realize that their government never seems to change no matter how they vote. Republicans, Democrats, same difference. They might tweak taxation a bit, they might approve slightly different bills, and certain civil rights issues that have nothing to do with corporate bottom lines might see adjustment one way or another, but nothing ever changes in a fundamental way. Fake, commercialized "anarchy" provides a safe outlet for this rage.

Every decade, we go to war to protect the petrodollar, our infrastructure crumbles a little bit more, our education system becomes more of a joke, and we raise yet another generation of serfs to uncritically accept our unconscionable foreign policy and the plundering of America's wealth. So many people are suckered by this system that expressing any real awareness of what's happening makes you look like a deranged nutcase.

Lately, these depraved necromancers have raised the shambling corpse of McCarthyism and started calling any viewpoint critical of America's perpetual Security State the result of "Russian Bots". It's ingenious. Now, you have no way to know if the person you're having an argument with on Twitter is a disgruntled fellow American or just a foreign bot trying to undermine your confidence in your own country. These ghouls benefit from that paranoia.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Well, if there’s any “good” that comes from this, it’s that people find the attempts at “rebel culture” inserted into their fun being extremely cringey and insulting as hell

Especially when they become more propaganda than fun mixed in
 
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This is all 100% correct, and it should've been obvious by the simple fact that our media is owned by a tiny handful of monopolistic corporations.


The funny thing is, it was 32 years ago when Noam Chomsky wrote Manufacturing Consent, and I'm not sure exactly what happened, but his message seems to have completely faded into obscurity among modern left-wing thought.



Nowadays, it's more common to see left-wingers siding with liberals and shilling for corporate media and aiding and abetting their disgusting propaganda than the opposite. Criticism of media is taken as a de facto right-wing extremist opinion, in spite of the fact that the left used to have a long history of criticizing corporate media.

Just because modern media parrots left-wing messages, that doesn't make them allies to the left. Any leftie who is fooled by their honeyed words doesn't realize they're being taken for a ride. These companies are all Security State mouthpieces. Every last one of them. Their side is the side with the billionaires and seedy little NGOs, and their interests are far from representing what the common man wants.

The right-wing and the left-wing should band together in repudiation of this disgusting propaganda spew.

You still see criticism of the media amongst far left sects. Usually various small Marxist or Trotskyite groups. Like the WSWS or what not.

But they aren’t the left as it is today. Slate and the Guardian are-more Liberal-Left. And they will jump to defend the media as a whole. Or as an institution.

Whereas your small scale trot or orthodox Marxist party or publication is only read by a few people. And thus their criticism or presentation of information not covered or presented by the mainstream is left on the margins.

Which ties into my point-the “liberal” side is often very much corporatized as well. If not by corporations than powerful NGOs and so on.

Which is all most of the population see.

“Fringe” outlets don’t have to be suppressed. Just ignored and no one is aware of them. Or very few people anyway.

The structure of the Overton window is itself defined by the powers that be-what is too far right for example? What is too far left?

What is extremist?

What these terms really mean is they are outside the accepted mainstream of mass media and “normal” politics. And thus they are strenuous and structurally ignored. The average Joe or Jane will never hear of them. Steve on the internet who gets his information from alternative sources and doesn’t trust the powers that be(the NYT, Washington Post, etc...)-is an outlier statistically speaking, and thus the powers that be are content to not suppress “fringe” sources.

That isn’t to advocate for left-right alliances or whatever-as very real differences exist between hardcore fascists and Trotsky’s self declared heirs.

They both however have no platform to access the masses. Only small inbuilt audiences. Preaching to the choir as it were.
 

Certified_Heterosexual

The Falklands are Serbian, you cowards.
The most galling thing about journalists is their ridiculous industry-wide messiah complex. Every last one of them have masturbatory fantasies about how their journalism could have stopped Hitler and the Nazis, too. "If only I could have spoken TRUTH to POWER back then, the Holocaust would never have happened!"

Meanwhile, actual modern-day Mengeles are cutting little boys' dicks off, molding pus-oozing facsimile vaginas for them, shooting girls full of HGH to make them into "boys"—just real life demented evil mad scientist shit that 90% of the world would consider worthy of immediate summary execution if their neighbor were doing it—and journalists LOVE it.
 
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There's the whole mythology around Watergate, with the intrepid journalists getting evil Nixon impeached.

That's something that's omnipresent in journalist circles, Bernstein and his partner of the heroes of the story.

And at some level, that's how journalists see themselves, the heroes in the story.

No one goes into journalism to blandly report on the weather and the neighborhood lemonade stand. Few even do it now to get the scoop, because the scoop is separate from the journalist. They do it to "make an impact", "achieve social change", etc...

They openly consider themselves activists and agitators and public opinion shapers. Which is why in recent months they have dispensed with "objectivity" in favor of "moral authority".
 
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