Cleaning Chemical Exposures Continue to Rise After Trump's Sarcastic Disinfectant Comments

[ThatTabiFromSB]

Illinois coronavirus death toll at 1,874, as poison calls about injecting and ingesting bleach spike

The Illinois Department of Health said that there has been a significant spike in the past couple days of calls to the poison control center from people who have ingested bleach or other cleaning agents.

www.fox32chicago.com

CHICAGO - The Illinois Department of Health said that there has been a significant spike in the past couple days of calls to the poison control center from people who have ingested bleach or other cleaning agents.
"Injecting, ingesting or snorting household cleaners is dangerous," said Illinois Department of Health Director Ngozi Ezike. "It is not advised and can be deadly."
One of the callers had asked about gargling with a bleach and mouthwash mixture in an attempt to kill coronavirus.
"Please listen to scientists and health experts about how to stay healthy," Ezike said.

NYC Poison Control Calls for Bleach, Lysol Double After Trump Disinfectant Comment

Calls to New York City’s Poison Control Center for exposure to certain household chemicals more than doubled after President Donald Trump suggested injecting disinfectant might be one way to combat COVID-19, the city said Saturday. In the 18 hours after the president’s suggestion during a...

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Calls to New York City's Poison Control Center for exposure to certain household chemicals more than doubled after President Donald Trump suggested injecting disinfectant might be one way to combat COVID-19, the city said Saturday.
In the 18 hours after the president's suggestion during a Thursday night news conference, the city center got 30 exposure calls -- nine specifically about Lysol, 10 about bleach and 11 about other household cleaners.
The maker of Lysol, British consumer goods company RB, even felt compelled to issue a statement urging the public in no uncertain terms not to consume its products.
President Trump later said he was being "sarcastic" with his comment, but he also notably cut short his Friday-night news conference without taking any questions.
None of the 30 exposure calls in the city resulted in death or hospitalization.

Trump Comment Prompts Experts to Warn Against Inhaling Bleach to Kill Coronavirus

Bleach is a toxic chemical, and inhaling it could damage the lungs

time.com

Not a treatment
Bleach is a toxic chemical, and inhaling it could damage the lungs.
“Inhaling chlorine bleach would be absolutely the worst thing for the lungs,” said John Balmes, a pulmonologist at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, and a professor of medicine at the University of California San Francisco. “The airway and lungs are not made to be exposed to even an aerosol of disinfectant.”
“Not even a low dilution of bleach or isopropyl alcohol is safe,” Balmes said in a telephone interview. “It’s a totally ridiculous concept.”
Disinfecting surfaces is an important practice in infection control. The coronavirus is fragile outside the body, and is essentially a packet of genetic information wrapped in a packet of lipids. Hand washing with soap is particularly effective in cleaning it and stopping transmission.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has warned Americans to be careful with cleaning products in their rush to use cleaners and disinfectants, which have been snapped up from store shelves and are still hard to find at many retailers. Poisonings related to cleaners and disinfectants rose significantly in March, according to the CDC. In one case, a woman was sent to the hospital after filling her sink with bleach solution, vinegar and hot water to soak her vegetables.

While mildly alarming, I can't help but feel like most of these calls may be mostly stupid people doing stupid things while scared or simply not reading the goddamn instructions on the damn label. Which, really, happens all the time.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised that such incidents have gone up, not because of Trump making absolutely mind boggling comments, but because people are stupid and think they know better. With this Pandemic, everyone is scrambling for cleaning supplies and those chosen by Darwin are forgoing instructions on how to actually use it.

However, President Trump did make those comments; even if they were sarcastic, they were made on national television on a briefing where the viewers could easily have misconstrued whatever he said as something they should do; especially those who are scared and are desperate for answers.

 

[Emperor Tippy]

While mildly alarming, I can't help but feel like most of these calls may be mostly stupid people doing stupid things while scared or simply not reading the goddamn instructions on the damn label. Which, really, happens all the time.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised that such incidents have gone up, not because of Trump making absolutely mind boggling comments, but because people are stupid and think they know better. With this Pandemic, everyone is scrambling for cleaning supplies and those chosen by Darwin are forgoing instructions on how to actually use it.

However, President Trump did make those comments; even if they were sarcastic, they were made on national television on a briefing where the viewers could easily have misconstrued whatever he said as something they should do; especially those who are scared and are desperate for answers.

I have to be honest, if you are an adult who is nominally mentally competent then ingesting household cleaners as medicine because Donald Trump of all people sarcastically said to do so then I am utterly indifferent to your survival.

Suicide via sheer, bloody, stupidity can only improve the gene pool by removing the truly idiotic.

 

[ThatTabiFromSB]

I have to be honest, if you are an adult who is nominally mentally competent then ingesting household cleaners as medicine because Donald Trump of all people sarcastically said to do so then I am utterly indifferent to your survival.

Suicide via sheer, bloody, stupidity can only improve the gene pool by removing the truly idiotic.

Oh absolutely. Its Darwinism at it's purest and finest. Natural selection streaming live IRL!

Still, Trump shouldn't be making sarcastic comments like that on National Television. People will take what he says at face value without actually thinking about it. It's hard enough for people to notice sarcasm on the internet, let alone on television. XD

 

[FriedCFour]

Still, Trump shouldn't be making sarcastic comments like that on National Television. People will take what he says at face value without actually thinking about it. It's hard enough for people to notice sarcasm on the internet, let alone on television.

It’s much easier to notice it on television than on the internet.

 

[ThatTabiFromSB]

It’s much easier to notice it on television than on the internet.

You would think so, but humanity has proven itself to fall short in that department throughout history, wouldn't you agree?

 

[FriedCFour]

You would think so, but humanity has proven itself to fall short in that department throughout history, wouldn't you agree?

No. Just think about why people would fail to get sarcasm on the internet and it’ll make sense why it’s easier to get it on TV.

 

[ThatTabiFromSB]

No. Just think about why people would fail to get sarcasm on the internet and it’ll make sense why it’s easier to get it on TV.

No I understand, completely. But my faith in humanity doesn't get better because of that.

 

[FriedCFour]

No I understand, completely. But my faith in humanity doesn't get better because of that.

There was no sarcasm either.



He just used the word disinfectant, that they were testing something with a disinfectant and wanted to see what it would do. It started with UV light too. It’s not entirely clear what he’s talking about exactly but he definitely never said “go inject bleach into your veins.” If you are that retarded to actually do that then you weren’t long for this world anyways.

 

[Tzeentchean Perspective]

Debunked by the lolbertarians at Reason.com of all people.

No, Poison Control Calls Aren't Suddenly Spiking After Trump's Disinfectant Comments

On Thursday, the president suggested that perhaps an "injection" of disinfectant could help cure people of COVID-19. Critics of Donald…

reason.com

 

[Isem]

Debunked by the lolbertarians at Reason.com of all people.

No, Poison Control Calls Aren't Suddenly Spiking After Trump's Disinfectant Comments

On Thursday, the president suggested that perhaps an "injection" of disinfectant could help cure people of COVID-19. Critics of Donald…

reason.com

I was about to post that but you beat me to it. But yeah, long story short, calls have been up for a while now because more people have been handling disinfectants then before and a call being sent doesn't mean that someone drank bleach and needed to be hospitalized.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Weird... I wonder why people are getting exposed to more cleaning supplies right now then...

*glances over and notices the spray bottle of bleach cleaner on the dining room table.*

I mean... it's so convenient to have it right there to clean up after eating.

And it makes a great chaser. 😋

 

[ThatTabiFromSB]

Debunked by the lolbertarians at Reason.com of all people.

What are you debunking exactly? Or did you not read what I've been writing this entire time?

He just used the word disinfectant, that they were testing something with a disinfectant and wanted to see what it would do. It started with UV light too. It’s not entirely clear what he’s talking about exactly but he definitely never said “go inject bleach into your veins.”

I dunno, Trump did say something about seeing about 'disinfecting your body' or some nonsense and asking the medical experts about looking into it. As well as somehow putting UV light 'into the body' somehow and asking the same medical experts to look into it.

As far as I can tell, Trump went on a tangent that was more about him wondering if it was possible to use disinfectant and UV rays to clean the body somehow, asked his medical experts if it was possible, and kind of left it at that. While he didn't say 'inject bleach into your body', he did say 'inject it in some other way'. It was really kind of a rambling run on statement.



I dunno. Trump just sounds like he took what he heard and ran with it. Lemme see if I can get a transcription of what exactly he said.

 

[FriedCFour]

As far as I can tell, Trump went on a tangent that was more about him wondering if it was possible to use disinfectant and UV rays to clean the body somehow, asked his medical experts if it was possible, and kind of left it at that. While he didn't say 'inject bleach into your body', he did say 'inject it in some other way'. It was really kind of a rambling run on statement.

Yes it was kind of a rambling statement, but you’d have to be retarded to take what he said and arrive at inject yourself with bleach. He said doctors are doing trials for these things, for the effects of UV and disinfectant, disinfectant meaning thing that removes infection.

 

[ThatTabiFromSB]

Source Whitehouse Remarks & Statements

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.

ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.

THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s — that’s pretty powerful.

So, in a sort of roundabout way, he sort of does say something about injecting some sort of 'disinfectant' into the body or lungs? Like I said, he was really rambling and kind of on a tangent.

Q But I — just, can I ask about — the President mentioned the idea of cleaners, like bleach and isopropyl alcohol you mentioned. There’s no scenario that that could be injected into a person, is there? I mean —

ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: No, I’m here to talk about the findings that we had in the study. We won’t do that within that lab and our lab. So —

THE PRESIDENT: It wouldn’t be through injection. We’re talking about through almost a cleaning, sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work. But it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object.

Another minor clarification here. Trump basically appears to be trying to describe (badly) something along the lines of a 'scrubber' effect or cleansing of the potential coronavirus, I think?

A for effort, but that's not how that works, AFAIK. Maybe the President should consult with Fauci or Bhrix about these ideas before making comments like this on live television...

 

[FriedCFour]

So, in a sort of roundabout way, he sort of does say something about injecting some sort of 'disinfectant' into the body or lungs? Like I said, he was really rambling and kind of on a tangent.

He’s using incorrect medical terminology to talk about something the doctors are testing. The whole statement is about things being tested. Did he use proper medical terminology? No. But to get “president Trump is directing people on their own to drink bleach” is pure fake news.

 

[ThatTabiFromSB]

He’s using incorrect medical terminology to talk about something the doctors are testing. The whole statement is about things being tested. Did he use proper medical terminology? No. But to get “president Trump is directing people on their own to drink bleach” is pure fake news.

I think it's less fake news and more of people running with what he's trying to explain very very badly. I mean, for sure, the media should get flak for it, but when the President up and drops a blundering statement like this that can be easily misconstrued, it's practically a free shot. It's less using incorrect medical terminology and just plain being unable to articulate well enough to get his point across.

Really, Trump manages to do much better when he's hashed out what to say with his staff. When he goes off the rails without clearing it with his staff beforehand so they can properly coach him on what to say, this sort of thing happens.

 

[FriedCFour]

I think it's less fake news and more of people running with what he's trying to explain very very badly. I mean, for sure, the media should get flak for it, but when the President up and drops a blundering statement like this that can be easily misconstrued, it's practically a free shot. It's less using incorrect medical terminology and just plain being unable to articulate well enough to get his point across.

If only they’d take more shots at Biden for that. But yes, he definitely could have said that all much better.

 

[Isem]

I dunno, Trump did say something about seeing about 'disinfecting your body' or some nonsense and asking the medical experts about looking into it. As well as somehow putting UV light 'into the body' somehow and asking the same medical experts to look into it.

As far as I can tell, Trump went on a tangent that was more about him wondering if it was possible to use disinfectant and UV rays to clean the body somehow, asked his medical experts if it was possible, and kind of left it at that. While he didn't say 'inject bleach into your body', he did say 'inject it in some other way'. It was really kind of a rambling run on statement.

If you're asking about UV rays to clean things that actually is a thing. As has pumping chemicals into the body to kill things. This article does have some details on it.

Trump’s idea for “disinfecting” people to fight disease is already being done

If you spent any time on the internet on Thursday and Friday, or read a hard copy of a newspaper, you would undoubtedly have read stories or social media posts saying that President Trump told Americans to inject themselves with bleach or Lysol to cu...

www.americanthinker.com

Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation, also called Photoluminescence Therapy, is intravenously applied ultraviolet energy. Due to its profound photochemical, biochemical and physiological effects it has been of great value in a wide variety of diseases according to over 100 years of research findings.

Niels Ryberg Finsen is considered the father of Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation. In the late 1890s, he treated various skin conditions with Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation and he and his successors reported a success rate of about 98% in curing lupus vulgaris, a tuberculosis-like disease of the skin and mucous membranes. In 1903, he was awarded the Nobel Prize for his research in photochemotherapy.

In the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s, E. K. Knott, M.D. in Seattle, Washington, and other physicians applied this treatment successfully to a variety of other conditions, such as bacterial diseases, viral infections including acute and chronic hepatitis, poliomyelitis, encephalitis, overwhelming toxemias, rheumatoid arthritis and many other diseases and conditions.

In Europe, since the early 1950s, Josef M. Issels, M.D. administered Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation, or Photoluminescence Therapy, as an important component of his treatment program to thousands of his patients suffering from cancer and various immune disorders.

In IV H2O2 therapy, Hydrogen peroxide is infused into the circulatory system through a vein in the arm. It drips in over a ninety-minute period. Five cc of pharmaceutical-grade, three-percent hydrogen peroxide are put in 500 cc five percent glucose in water as a carrier solution. Two grams of magnesium chloride are added along with a small amount of manganese to prevent vein sclerosis.

In the blood, it encounters two enzymes: catalase and cytochrome-C. Catalase drives the above reaction to completion immediately. That part of the hydrogen peroxide that binds with cytochrome-C, however, is not allowed to become water and singlet oxygen for a period of forty minutes. After forty minutes of being bound to cytochrome-C this enzyme begins to act like catalase and breaks down the hydrogen peroxide to water and singlet oxygen. By this time, the hydrogen peroxide/cytochrome-C complex has been spread throughout the body. In this way the benefits of hydrogen peroxide are made available to all cells.

The effect of singlet oxygen in the human body is twofold. It kills, or severely inhibits the growth of, anaerobic organisms (bacteria and viruses that use carbon dioxide for fuel and leave oxygen as a by-product). This action is immediate, on contact with the anaerobic organism. Anaerobic bacteria are pathogens, the organisms which cause disease. All viruses are anaerobic.

While he didn't term it 100% correctly the idea isn't exactly wild imaginings as much as it was poorly worded thinking that got blown out of proportion.

 

[Emperor Tippy]

It’s much easier to notice it on television than on the internet.

My sarcasm senses are tingling.

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

One could make the argument that its the media themselves propagating the myth of injecting yourself with bleach and other disinfectants, because they are misconstruing the presidents statements to a straight out misinformation. Regardless of how you feel about the President's statements, saying "Trump said inject yourselves with Bleach" propagates the myth that is in fact what the President of the US said. Therefore propagating the idea that an Authority Figure said a simply flat out "injecting yourself with bleach" and people will take that as a statement of fact.

So they themselves might be more responsible for deaths with...well lets be outrageously generous and say it is simply the lazy search for clickbait article headlines than anything the President himself said.