Chekov's Donbass Thread
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I think,it was 2002,but yes,they are kind of like Sauron,who do not cared how many of his soldiers die.
Now,i undarstandt,why ukrainian name Putin army as orcs.
Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
or maybe the Russians didn't want a U-110 style incident, only ten times worse. The Americans getting on board Kursk would have meant that Russian encryption equipment, torpedo and missile technology, reactor design and probably hundreds of other things about their Navy and military would have fallen into US/NATO hands.
What about getting Norwegian help instead, though?
bintananth
behind a desk
Norway is part of NATO.
True, but could they simply avoid looking around on the Kursk submarine while they save these Russian troops? It still seems to be too high of a sacrifice to give up the lives of over 100 of your sailors simply so that NATO won't be able to look at your submarine technology.
Then they could ask Sweden.And even if you are right - soviet navy always sucked,and so kgbstan navy now.USA would not get anything interesting there.
To be honets,all they need are submarines with nukes and their escorts,all other ships could be scrapped.
Admiral Chekov
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The Ukrainian government is preparing a false-flag attack against a railway station filled with civilian refugees, in order to accuse Russia of war crimes, the Russian military announced on Friday. Moscow cited intelligence to name the target, method, and even point of origin of the impending attack, which it said was patterned after the recent carnage in Kramatorsk.
“The Kiev regime is preparing another monstrous provocation, similar to the one carried out in Kramatorsk, to accuse Russian servicemen of war crimes with a massacre of civilians,” Lieutenant General Mikhail Mizintsev, head of the National Defense Management Center, said on Friday afternoon.
According to Mizintsev, the 19th Missile Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine intends “in the near future” to fire a Tochka-U tactical ballistic missile at “the accumulation of refugees at the railway station” at Lozovaya – a city in the Kharkov region and a major rail junction.
In order to make the strike look like it came from territory controlled by the Donetsk People's Republic or Russian forces, the rocket will come from Staromikhaylovka, a village west of Donetsk held by the Kiev forces, the general added.
Such actions demonstrate Ukraine’s “inhuman attitude towards the fate of civilians” and “complete disregard for all norms of morality and international humanitarian law,” said Mizintsev.
The same 19th missile brigade was accused by the Russian military on Friday of targeting the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station in Kherson. Two missiles were fired towards the dam on Friday morning, purportedly with the aim of causing the Dnieper river to flood.
Both missiles were intercepted by Russian air defenses, but fragments of one of them damaged several buildings in the village of Novaya Kakhovka, injuring a woman and a child, the Russian military said.
Ukraine had accused Russia of the April 8 attack on the railway station in Kramatorsk, which killed 50 civilians, including children. Russia responded by pointing out that the missile that caused the carnage was a Tochka-U with a serial number corresponding to Ukrainian stockpiles, and even pinpointed the likely launch location. Western media coverage of the attack significantly decreased after that
Source: Russia Today
“The Kiev regime is preparing another monstrous provocation, similar to the one carried out in Kramatorsk, to accuse Russian servicemen of war crimes with a massacre of civilians,” Lieutenant General Mikhail Mizintsev, head of the National Defense Management Center, said on Friday afternoon.
According to Mizintsev, the 19th Missile Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine intends “in the near future” to fire a Tochka-U tactical ballistic missile at “the accumulation of refugees at the railway station” at Lozovaya – a city in the Kharkov region and a major rail junction.
In order to make the strike look like it came from territory controlled by the Donetsk People's Republic or Russian forces, the rocket will come from Staromikhaylovka, a village west of Donetsk held by the Kiev forces, the general added.
Such actions demonstrate Ukraine’s “inhuman attitude towards the fate of civilians” and “complete disregard for all norms of morality and international humanitarian law,” said Mizintsev.
The same 19th missile brigade was accused by the Russian military on Friday of targeting the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station in Kherson. Two missiles were fired towards the dam on Friday morning, purportedly with the aim of causing the Dnieper river to flood.
Both missiles were intercepted by Russian air defenses, but fragments of one of them damaged several buildings in the village of Novaya Kakhovka, injuring a woman and a child, the Russian military said.
Ukraine had accused Russia of the April 8 attack on the railway station in Kramatorsk, which killed 50 civilians, including children. Russia responded by pointing out that the missile that caused the carnage was a Tochka-U with a serial number corresponding to Ukrainian stockpiles, and even pinpointed the likely launch location. Western media coverage of the attack significantly decreased after that
Source: Russia Today
Admiral Chekov
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Patrick Lancaster talks to Mariupol civilians in a Cold War bomb shelter
And,becouse Kramatorsk was done by Ukraine,russians claimed that it was their missile which destroyed train with ammo.Sure.
But,considering that KGB ALWAY accuse others of what they are doing,it is nice to new that they plan to butcher another railstation.
Patrick Lancaster talks to Mariupol civilians in a Cold War bomb shelter
If i and my family was in kgbstan hands,i would say anything they want,too.
Beside,who destroyed Marjunpol - Ukrainians,or Moscov? /not that sunked,but state/
Russians come to liberate - AND STILL COULD NOT TAKE CITY AFTER 53 DAYS ?
When China or Turkey come and destroy your city,do not complain.They would come to help you with water and food.
Fun fact: Donbass has its own spinoff version of McDonald's known as DonMak:
Here's their menu:
I can provide a translation if necessary. I speak Russian.
Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
It is just the English names of all that crap spelled in Cyrillic, the coffees/soft drinks are still in russian though.Here's their menu:
I can provide a translation if necessary. I speak Russian.
Also, I am surprised they didn't write Kvas on the cold drinks, since there is a long-standing meme about substituting it for coke.
Kvas is nice, especially this one type of dark bread monestary kvas I used to drink before I laid off sweet drinks and escess fast carbs.
bintananth
behind a desk
When I was a college student I went on a date with an Austrian au pair. She took me to McDonald's and said that it was a nice sit-down restaurant with table service where she was from.
Austria is not a third-world country.
What's the point of this story?
bintananth
behind a desk
That I'm an idiot who knows things and thinks that a lot of other smart people are surrounded by stupid without realizing it.
In the eyes of Russian leadership, the loss of face involved in having to ask the West for help far outweighed the lives of those sailors. For that matter, even a full-scale rescue attempt by domestic Russian forces was clearly decided to be unacceptable; the decision was made to downplay the incident , keep the rescue operations small scale, and overall manage the matter as a PR issue.
You see the exact same style of "management" in the Soviet era with the Chernobyl incident, and for that matter in the West you do see similar mindset with dangerous incidents occurring inside a large company, where decision making is focused on "keeping it in house" and hushing things up.
Admiral Chekov
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The more large Ukrainian units get destroyed/choose to surrender in the Donbass region, the more active Ukrainian artillery becomes, shelling civilian areas in Donetsk and other towns. This goes both for units that can hit Donetsk from long distance and for the Ukrainian artillery remnants that are still holed up inside DPR/LPR/Russian-controlled territory, using locals as human shields. Military equipment supplied to the Kiev-based regime by US and NATO is also being used in the shelling of Donetsk. The residents of Donetsk have suffered regular Ukrainian army shellings for 8 years, but they consider the current situation unprecedented, only comparable to the events of 2014-15. The people of Donetsk have grown used to the sounds of shells/rockets since 2014, and more or less know of their destructive capabilities. Now, unfamiliar US/NATO ammunition hits Donetsk (for example, civilians report that some types of shells fly quietly, so there's no time to take cover before they explode). Dozens of civilians were killed in Donetsk and other DPR/LPR towns in the last several weeks. Not that this is anything fundamentally new - Ukrainian army had been using heavy military equipment against civilians in Donbass since 2014. The current shellings seem to be aimed at forcing the residents of Donetsk and Luhansk to lose hope for a better future. However, those people didn't start the war. Unlike the Kiev-based radical nationalists, they never painted any nation as savage/subhuman; they never brought up their kids to hate their close neighbors - and never will. The people of Donetsk and Luhansk have never lost hope that the 8-year-long nightmare will end. They're certainly not willing to give up now
Shelling of the outskirts of Donetsk (15.06.2022)
Miner rescue station in Donetsk, damaged by the shelling (17.06.2022)
Shelling of Donetsk (17.06.2022)
Shells and rockets hitting blocks of flats in Donetsk (18.06.2022)
Aftermath of the shelling of the "ExpoDonbass" exhibition center in Donetsk (18.06.2022)
Aftermath of shells hitting the "Vishnevyi" ("Cherry") residential complex and a block of flats on the Vannikov St. (Kuibysevski district) in Donetsk today (20.06.2022)
Source: "Typical Donetsk", a group by & for Donetsk residents in VKontakte (a Russian social network)
Shelling of the outskirts of Donetsk (15.06.2022)
Miner rescue station in Donetsk, damaged by the shelling (17.06.2022)
Shelling of Donetsk (17.06.2022)
Shells and rockets hitting blocks of flats in Donetsk (18.06.2022)
Aftermath of the shelling of the "ExpoDonbass" exhibition center in Donetsk (18.06.2022)
Aftermath of shells hitting the "Vishnevyi" ("Cherry") residential complex and a block of flats on the Vannikov St. (Kuibysevski district) in Donetsk today (20.06.2022)
Source: "Typical Donetsk", a group by & for Donetsk residents in VKontakte (a Russian social network)
Admiral Chekov
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From the first in the series of booklets to be published this year by Russia's Federal Agency for the Commonwealth of Independent States Affairs, Compatriots Living Abroad, and International Humanitarian Cooperation
Online version can be found at warcrimesofkiev.com
Online version can be found at warcrimesofkiev.com