California starts to ban natural gas in homes.

[Deleted member]

California, with its hyper-restrictive and controlling zoning regimes, has begun to ban natural gas in homes. The reason of course is to help with global warming. Supposedly.

The reality is that--and this is a matter of objective fact--natural gas burning directly at the source of use (in heating systems, cooling systems [yes, these can run on natural gas], cooking systems, clothes washing and cleaning, even dishwashers if they were available for private use) is actually more efficient because of the lack of transmission and conversion losses in energy consumption terms. So, unless the electricity generation source is substantially in excess of 10% renewables, using electric appliances is substantially less good for the environment then using gas fired appliances. And as it happens, most US electrical power is generated by natural gas. So it's quite possible these regulations could actually result in more emissions in the future, especially if the fraction of renewables doesn't continue to grow.

 

[prinCZess]

Pretty sure there's been active attribution of expanded usage of natural gas as being a large part of the reason for the US' declining emissions. Even if that's not the case...California seems to once again be intent on shooting themselves in the foot--and I can already imagine will loudly ask why housing prices have skyrocketed so insanely. The government there seems to want to weld together NIMBYism and the dumbest segments of environmentalism into a stew of silly policy that hurts people and makes it harder for them to live unless they're part of the multi-millionaire Hollywood or techie classes that can afford all the strictures.

 

[Cherico]

Pretty sure there's been active attribution of expanded usage of natural gas as being a large part of the reason for the US' declining emissions. Even if that's not the case...California seems to once again be intent on shooting themselves in the foot--and I can already imagine will loudly ask why housing prices have skyrocketed so insanely. The government there seems to want to weld together NIMBYism and the dumbest segments of environmentalism into a stew of silly policy that hurts people and makes it harder for them to live unless they're part of the multi-millionaire Hollywood or techie classes that can afford all the strictures.

just remember your just annoyed with them I have to live with these idiots.

 

[Deleted member]

Pretty sure there's been active attribution of expanded usage of natural gas as being a large part of the reason for the US' declining emissions. Even if that's not the case...California seems to once again be intent on shooting themselves in the foot--and I can already imagine will loudly ask why housing prices have skyrocketed so insanely. The government there seems to want to weld together NIMBYism and the dumbest segments of environmentalism into a stew of silly policy that hurts people and makes it harder for them to live unless they're part of the multi-millionaire Hollywood or techie classes that can afford all the strictures.

Mostly the gains are from natgas decimating coal as a mains power generation source, but certainly the replacement of heating oil with natural gas by expanding pipeline distribution networks has been a major reduction in emissions as well. In an area like Washington State where most of the electricity comes from hydro- or nuclear, all-electric heating and cooking makes sense, but in most of the country where natgas is becoming the dominant power generation source, also supplying it to homes for point use in high-energy appliances still makes perfect sense.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

just remember your just annoyed with them I have to live with these idiots.

On average, just how crazy to dangerous and willing to destroy somebody’s life for little real reason are they?

 

[Cherico]

On average, just how crazy to dangerous and willing to destroy somebody’s life for little real reason are they?

Their idle rich people who have never worked a day in their lives and think their creating utopia.

How bad do you think that's going to turn out?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Their idle rich people who have never worked a day in their lives and think their creating utopia.

How bad do you think that's going to turn out?

Very

But what about the average person on the street who’s NOT a crazy homeless person?

 

[Cherico]

Very

But what about the average person on the street who’s NOT a crazy homeless person?

that's the leadership the crazy homeless people are actually for the most part more rational, honest and ethical.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

that's the leadership the crazy homeless people are actually for the most part more rational, honest and ethical.

And probably really depressed, they DO need help, but your “leadership” is not just bad at “helping” but frankly terrible at it

Also, I was referring to regular everyday people, like do workplaces even blue-collar ones have SJW rulership and paranoia?

 

[Cherico]

And probably really depressed, they DO need help, but your “leadership” is not just bad at “helping” but frankly terrible at it

Also, I was referring to regular everyday people, like do workplaces even blue-collar ones have SJW rulership and paranoia?

If you want to get a job in a competive industry like tech the quickest way to do it is to go to the DMV and get your sex legally changed to female. If you feel the need you can go to a doctor who isn't allowed to say your not trans by the way or risk getting fired. Then when your called wear a ranbow pin or a pink shirt and act at least semi sane.

Congratulations on your new job.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

If you want to get a job in a competive industry like tech the quickest way to do it is to go to the DMV and get your sex legally changed to female. If you feel the need you can go to a doctor who isn't allowed to say your not trans by the way or risk getting fired. Then when your called wear a ranbow pin or a pink shirt and act at least semi sane.

Congratulations on your new job.

How about for the working class? None of that clownworld drama in the workplace?

 

[Cherico]

How about for the working class? None of that clownworld drama in the workplace?

A crazed outrage mob can decend upon you and try to ruin your life at any time for any reason.

This is true pretty much every where now, the good news is that the price of innaction is slowly becoming worse then the price of action and these tactics are growing more britle as the worst of them turn against each other.

Clownworld is a movement that is inherently self destructive and when it does go down they will find them selves surrounded by all the enemies they made.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Clownworld is a movement that is inherently self destructive and when it does go down they will find them selves surrounded by all the enemies they made.

That or they all runaway to places where they can repeat their mistakes without immediately suffering the consequences

But yeah, it is inherently self-destructive, they just so happen to be able to live off both past successes(entertainment companies that weng SJW)&other people’s money that seems to be near infinite at first and allows them to maintain the illusion

Even when they don’t have or get that money....really doesn’t help that there are people that “Likes” or stroking one’s ego seems more addicting than actually having money

 

[Captain X]

Shame that attempt to split California up into multiple states never went through.

 

[Cherico]

Shame that attempt to split California up into multiple states never went through.

The only reason why the state is remotely solvent is because of the size and scale of our economy if we broke up into several states we would instantly become a burden that every one else would have to bail out now.

 

[Captain X]

I'd say that already accurately describes California.

 

[Cherico]

I'd say that already accurately describes California.

Yes but as one intact unit we will eventally be able to pay the rest of you back when our head is forcibly removed from our ass.

 

[MementoMori]

Well I guess i can use this joke now,

"In California they use coal for cooking and heating, before coal they used natural gas. Communism not even once"

 

[Whitestrake Pelinal]

That or they all runaway to places where they can repeat their mistakes without immediately suffering the consequences

And it's not only the Californicators that do it. My home state of Connecticut is one of the wealthiest in the nation per capita but has still managed to sink itself into a morass of debt and underfunded pensions thanks to the last couple generations being selfish, narcissistic garbage. Now that the can is getting to heavy to kick down the road, the people who made their money in CT and advocated for high spending, now retire out of state because "the tax burden is too high".

I wish we could hang them high.

 

[DarthOne]

Reminds me of a joke I once heard:

Q: What's the difference between California and the Titanic?

A: When the Titanic went down, the lights were still on.