Boomstick's and shooty shooty bang bang's - The GUN Thread!
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The 7.62x25mm Tokarev pistol round is indeed exceptionally powerful for a service pistol round, throwing an 85-grain bullet at a muzzle velocity of almost 500 m/s for just under 700 joules of energy. For comparison, standard 9x19mm Luger and .45 ACP rounds are both under 500 joules.
It seemed like there was a lot of recoil when I've fired it, which hasn't been all that often I'm afraid to say (my love is reserved mostly for my raifus 😛). It's definitely not something I can one-hand the way I did that Beretta I had for my whole one day of firearms training back in AFROTC. 
ETA: And, yeah, they taught us the proper stance, but at one point we sidetracked into old style stances.
ETA: And, yeah, they taught us the proper stance, but at one point we sidetracked into old style stances.
LindyAF
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IIIA is rated to stop 0.357 sig and 44 magnum. While I have no experience with tokarev, I found this on MAC. The Ruger-57 is fairly cheap, but from what I've read needs steel core ammunition to defeat IIIA body armor, and even that's iffy. You could just go more, and step up to a .454 or something, but that's not exactly cheap and probably you're sending a lot more mass downrange than you need to be. The best answer is probably just an AR-15 with a pistol brace.
LindyAF
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Huh, on that same topic though I found this though, which seems really cool. The company seems a bit libertarian meme-y, so I'm a bit suspect, but they've got video and legal 9mm that beats 3A would be a total game changer. And at $2/round it's cheaper than most other 9mm! 😁
On a somewhat related note- just got an AR in 300 blackout, and speaking of AP is there an equivalent to what the M855 is for 5.56?Also, any recommendations for defensive ammo? I like hornady critical defense in my 9mm but I haven't been able to find any of that for 300 blackout.
On a somewhat related note- just got an AR in 300 blackout, and speaking of AP is there an equivalent to what the M855 is for 5.56?Also, any recommendations for defensive ammo? I like hornady critical defense in my 9mm but I haven't been able to find any of that for 300 blackout.
They named an AP pistol bullet after an Ayn Rand character. What do you expect?
... Well, .300 Blackout is supposed to be a heavy subsonic round. If you want armor piercing, what you want to do is mimic the 9x37 cartridge and load the heaviest bullet that your rifling will stabilize.
LindyAF
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I got the 300 blackout b/c I want to put a suppressor on a gun I can use for home defense, and if I'm going to have a suppressor I want to be able to shoot subsonic with it, but I wouldn't use subsonic rounds in any situation where my life depended on it.
LindyAF
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I've been thinking "I should get body armor" for a while now and putting it off because I hate spending money, and also I don't really know where to start looking. Any suggestions on where to start?
Looking for something decent in level II or IIIA that I can wear under a jacket or something, ideally with stabbing/slashing resistance as well, because hearing about people getting mugged a block away from where I live has been spooky.
Looking for something decent in level II or IIIA that I can wear under a jacket or something, ideally with stabbing/slashing resistance as well, because hearing about people getting mugged a block away from where I live has been spooky.
Spartan armor.
PsihoKekec
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Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
TikTok is teaching teens how to build fully automatic rifles and make “hollow point” ammunition
Potentially illegal weapons modifications and ammunition are also marketed on the site
Future generation of second amendment followers in the most unlikeliest of places.
It took Mark Serbu 7 years, but he finally delivers:
Yeah, but Mark doesn't have the production capacity to mass produce it, so he's hoping someone will pick it up.
It's real nice and simple, mechanically, but I dunno if anyone will try to pick it up in this environment.
Didn't people actually already pay for pre-orders of those?
I think most/all of those people did cancel those, but I imagine there's going to be a small number of uppers that Mark has to make to avoid getting sued for breach of contract.
prinCZess
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Neat to see tinkering still happening, especially when he's apparently been doing it for...six years now? Seven? I mean, I'm no one to talk about procrastination or taking too long to do things, but still...
Independent of that, boy is it sad how his timing is just garbage. Even presuming the political winds of the day in the US didn't make the firearms industry all skittish, the market demands in the current environment I'd assume is going to make more companies focus on cranking-out what they've got while they're selling above-MSRP rather than jumping into a new design (presumably...I am not a corporate CEO or mass-production engineer with any real credible estimation of these things). Had he been two years quicker it might have been jumped-on (as, I guess, he kind of alludes to parts of it being copycatted).
As it is, be neat to see someone pick it up.
I AM morbidly curious if there's anybody still out there who shelled-out money to the preorder years and years and years ago that still has their name on a list. If no big manufacturer picks up on it, they might have a heck of an exclusive upper waiting for them