Versus Match Army Versus Marines

[Husky_Khan]

Platoon Sized Challenge (40 Dudes (1 Officer, 3 NCO's, 36 Troops) and one tank and one light armored vehicle.

Best of Three in Different Scenarios:

Army Platoon:
General Shepherd (Call of Duty Modern Warfare): Equipped with a M4A1 Assault Carbine and a .44 Desert Eagle
Sergeant Michael Beckett (Fear 2: Project Origin): Equipped with a P90 Submachine Gun or a 10 Gauge SHO-3 Pump Action Shotgun
Erik "Maverick" Thorn (Rainbow Six Siege): M4 Assault Rifle, Claymore, Frag Grenades and a BLOWTORCH
Jill Valentine (Resident Evil): Equipped with a MP5A3 Submachine Gun, M32A1 MultiBarrel Grenade Launcher and a Beretta 92 Samurai Edge
Hawk Team (Crysis): 6x Delta Force Members Equipped with Nanosuit v1.0, FN Scars, Pistols, Flashbangs and Frag Grenades
Delta Force Fireteams (Call of Duty): 12x Delta Force Members Equipped with 8 M4A1 Assault Carbines w/M203 Grenade Launchers, 2 MK14 Assault Rifles, 2x MK 46 Light Machine Guns and Frag Grenades
Ghost Recon Fireteam (Ghost Recon): 6x Green Berets Equipped with 6 M4 SOCOM Carbines, Frag Grenades and 2 M136 AT Rocket Launchers
NCR Veteran Ranger Squad (Fallout: New Vegas): 12x Rangers Equipped with 4 Anti-Material Rifles, 4 Assault Carbines, 4 Brush Guns, 12 Ranger Sequoia Revolvers
Honey Badger (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2): Stryker Infantry Combat Vehicle Equipped with a M2 Heavy Machine Gun and an anti-Rocket ADS
Crusader Tank (Command & Conquer: Generals): Main Battle Tank with a 125mm Cannon & Scout Drone

Marine Platoon:
Captain Alex Mason (Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War): Equipped with a Dragons Breath Shotgun or a WA2000 Sniper Rifle
Sergeant Major Avery Junior Johnson (Halo 3): Equipped with a MA5 Series Assault Rifle or a SRS99C Sniper Rifle.
Corporal Adrian Shepherd (Half Life: Opposing Force): Equipped with a Powered Combat Vest, an M249 SAW and Frag Grenades
Corporal Dwayne Hicks (Aliens): Equipped with a M41 Pulse Rifle, Flame Unit and an Ithaca 37 Shotgun.
Colonial Marine Rifle Squad (Aliens): 12x Colonial Marines Equipped with 10 M41a Pulse Rifles w/Grenade Launchers, Flame Units and 2 M56 Smartguns
UNSC Marine Squad (Halo): 12x UNSC Colonial Marines Equipped with 10 MA5 Series Assault Rifles, 1 99C-S2 Sniper Rifle, 1 M19 SSM, M9 Frag Grenades
USMC HECU Squad (Half Life): 12x HECU Marines Equipped with Powered Combat Vests, 8x MP5N Submachine Guns w/Grenade Launchers, 4 Franchi-Spas 12 Shotguns, Hand Grenades
W-12 Warthog (Halo): Equipped with a M41 Vulcan
War Pig (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare): M1 Abrams Tank w/ 1 M2 Heavy Machine Gun & 2 M240 GPMG's

First Scenario:

Platoon versus Platoon Deathmatch:

Valhalla Gorge from Halo 3. No previous knowledge of map terrain.

Second Scenario:

Search and Destroy

Each Platoon has to seperately storm Castle Wolfenstein during WW2. No Nazi Reinforcements. Whoever does so successfully in the shortest amount of time wins.

Third Scenario:

Last Stand

Each Platoon has to defend the Train Station from Half Life 2: Episode One's final level from an ever increasing amount of Combine soldiers, manhacks, Hunters, Armored Personnel Carriers, Hunter-Choppers and finally Striders while guarding and guiding groups of unarmed civilians onto the trains to escape. Whoever holds out the longest and thus gets the most civilians on the trains to safety wins.

 

[Zachowon]

Isn't Johnson definitely not base human?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Isn't Johnson definitely not base human?

Most Marines aren't.

 

[Zachowon]

Most Marines aren't.

No, they are pretty normal humans.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

No, they are pretty normal humans.

Just crazish ones....who enjoy eating crayons too much

 

[Zachowon]

Just crazish ones....who enjoy eating crayons too much

I mean, the Army is basically just a bunch of functional alcoholics

 

[Husky_Khan]

I mean, the Army is basically just a bunch of functional alcoholics

That's why I gave them the Stryker instead of the Warthog.

 

[Zachowon]

I think im search to destroy round, no matter who wins, the Nazis learn why you don't fick with the USA.

but looking through. The nanosuites seems kinda OP

 

[Husky_Khan]

I think im search to destroy round, no matter who wins, the Nazis learn why you don't fick with the USA.

but looking through. The nanosuites seems kinda OP

Maybe, but the Colonial Marines, HECU Marines and UNSC Marines (AFAIK) have better body armor in general then most of the Army alcoholics with the exception of Team Hawk. Plus they have way more grenade launchers and the like as well.

 

[Zachowon]

Maybe, but the Colonial Marines, HECU Marines and UNSC Marines (AFAIK) have better body armor in general then most of the Army alcoholics with the exception of Team Hawk. Plus they have way more grenade launchers and the like as well.

Arnt the Nanosuites capable of making them move a lot faster?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Arnt the Nanosuites capable of making them move a lot faster?

They can but I think they have to switch between the various enhancements (Armor, Strength, Speed or Cloak) but all of it drains the Nanosuits energy reserves.

 

[Zachowon]

They can but I think they have to switch between the various enhancements (Armor, Strength, Speed or Cloak) but all of it drains the Nanosuits energy reserves.

I honestly dont know who would win in a straight on fight

 

[Husky_Khan]

I honestly dont know who would win in a straight on fight

Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I guess I'll take it as a compliment for at least making it hard to choose a clear winner despite throwing in a whole bunch of random characters and units into the matchup.

 

[Zachowon]

Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I guess I'll take it as a compliment for at least making it hard to choose a clear winner despite throwing in a whole bunch of random characters and units into the matchup.

It really is hard to figure out

 

[Husky_Khan]

Since no one else seems to care to comment at this juncture, IMHO it seems that in the Second Scenario I think the Army types would have the advantage because the Nanosuits seem far more versatile for infiltration of the Nazi Castle. And the Ghost Recon team is a close second in similar sort of way. Plus the Crusader tank has a Scout UAV for enhanced recon capabilities as well. In combat, they might not have the raw firepower or battle survivability of the Marine forces but I feel are a bit more mobile and lighter on their feet as ironic as that might sound and I think could overtake the Castle quicker (though perhaps not with less casualties) then the Marines and thus win that scenario. Plus Maverick can cut through doors and barricades with his blowtorch. Screw your level design!

Conversely in the third scenario I think the Marines would actually do better. Since the mission is defending a certain point (with some mobility in regards to escorting civilians about) the fact they are defending and have better scifi armor means they'll likely be more survivable in general. They also have more firepower. The HECU Marines and Colonial Marines both have grenade launchers on their main weapons along with old fashioned frag grenades which would be devastating against groups of light infantry as well as light armored vehicles which would be showing up later. Plus the UNSC Marines have a multiple rocket launcher that's likely the most powerful anti-armor weapon of all the infantrymen. Plus while War Pig, their tank support, might not have a main gun as powerful as that as the Crusader Tank of the Army Team, it is bristling with machine guns which could lay down a heavy fire as well.

Plus in close combat, both the HECU Marines and two of the "Hero" Marines brought their shotguns for close encounters... as well as Colonial Marine Flame Units which are always fun to use on assholes like the Combine would be.

 

[Sailor.X]

The Spartans and Ships Crew are just sitting back with tubs of Popcorn saying Let them fight!!!

 

[Husky_Khan]

The Spartans and Ships Crew are just sitting back with tubs of Popcorn saying Let them fight!!!

No particular opinions on the matchup itself?

Next one will be inviting the Navy.

 

[Sailor.X]

No particular opinions on the matchup itself?

Next one will be inviting the Navy.

My opinion is the Navy will rack up a ton of money on the Pay Per View rights to Grunts and Jarheads bopping each other on the head.

 

[Spartan303]

One thing I've noticed about the UNSC Army is that while they looked cool, if you looked closer at their gear it was last generation stuff. In essence the Navy and the Marines got the bulk of the funding, then the Spartans while the Army and Air Force got the scraps. the the UNA really got shafted in Halo as they have no one on HighCom to speak for them. Its Navy, Marines, ONI.....that's it.

 

[f1onagher]

One thing I've noticed about the UNSC Army is that while they looked cool, if you looked closer at their gear it was last generation stuff. In essence the Navy and the Marines got the bulk of the funding, then the Spartans while the Army and Air Force got the scraps. the the UNA really got shafted in Halo as they have no one on HighCom to speak for them. Its Navy, Marines, ONI.....that's it.

If we assume that the Marines serve as the offensive arm of the UNSC ground forces then there's not a lot of reasons to spend on the army. They're just there to be glassing targets once the Covenant achieves orbital supremacy.