Are you a monarchist or a republican (anti-monarchist)?

[WolfBear]

Are you a monarchist or a republican (anti-monarchist)? I myself am a republican since I view the idea of a monarchy or any hereditary head of state (such as a hereditary dictatorship) as anti-egalitarian and a case of hereditary privilege, which I myself am inclined to oppose to a sizable extent. I believe that countries need unifying figures, true, but there's no particular reason that such figures need to be royalty; they could be other respected national figures, after all. Israel has a ceremonial president who is chosen among Israel's distinguished citizens and politicians, after all; even Albert Einstein was offered this job at one point in time, but declined. There's no reason that a similar principle can't apply to various other countries. And in such a scenario, countries could even choose former royalty to be their ceremonial president; there's no rule against it--it just won't be for life but will instead be for a set term such as 5 or 7 or 10 years. Bulgaria's former King became their Prime Minister for several years at the start of the 21st century, so there is some precedent for this, except here the position will be either mostly or completely ceremonial rather than having much actual power.

The one exception that I could make to my own anti-monarchist views would be if a country is rocked by chronic political instability, tyranny, et cetera. In such a scenario, maybe the strong guiding hand of a monarch really could be a significant benefit to it, such as Afghanistan if the Taliban will ever once again get overthrown there.

Anyway, what do you think?

 

[Ricardolindo]

As a Portuguese, I am a republican as Portugal has been a republic since the 1910 Revolution. However, I would not necessarily be a republican in other countries. I don't dislike constitutional monarchies except corrupt ones.

 

[WolfBear]

As a Portuguese, I am a republican as Portugal has been a republic since the 1910 Revolution. However, I would not necessarily be a republican in other countries. I don't dislike constitutional monarchies except corrupt ones.

I still dislike them in power since they symbolize hereditary privilege. However, outside of power, I value them very much since they are a living, breathing link to countries' history. For instance, the current French Orleanist royal pretender's ancestral male line spans 1,000 years of French history!

 

[Ricardolindo]

I still dislike them in power since they symbolize hereditary privilege. However, outside of power, I value them very much since they are a living, breathing link to countries' history. For instance, the current French Orleanist royal pretender's ancestral male line spans 1,000 years of French history!

Could you, please, edit the quote like I did my reply?

 

[WolfBear]

Could you, please, edit the quote like I did my reply?

Good now?

 

[Cherico]

What's important is rule of law, respect for property rights and civil rights. Low corruption and that the government protects its people and refrains from harrasing them.

There have been monarchies that have done this and many others that have been shit holes.
There have been republics that have done this and many others that have been shit holes.

The insitutions and culture is more important then the official form of government.

 

[Scottty]

What's important is rule of law, respect for property rights and civil rights. Low corruption and that the government protects its people and refrains from harrasing them.

There have been monarchies that have done this and many others that have been shit holes.
There have been republics that have done this and many others that have been shit holes.

The insitutions and culture is more important then the official form of government.

This.

A monarchy can be very good or very bad, depending on the character of the king, and also - perhaps more important - of the people around him, by and through he leads the country.

"No man rules alone"

 

[Scottty]

 

[Agent23]

This.

A monarchy can be very good or very bad, depending on the character of the king, and also - perhaps more important - of the people around him, by and through he leads the country.

"No man rules alone"

And the level of inbreeding.

TBH the cycle goes like this socially, Limited democracy with a respect for written laws and customs -> expanded franchise with more gibs for the plebs to buy votes and growing oligarchy and maybe some bureaucracy -> oligarchy takeover -> Tzars arise and send the oprinichiki to kill some of the bolyars and there is either a situation where there is a bureaucracy-based despotism headed by a tzar, think Prussia, or a new aristocracy that is more heavily aligned with the Tzar but becomes degenerate and incompetent again, or in fewer cases we have an emphasis on written law and customs, think Prussia and germans in general, maybe with the plebs getting more power if they serve in the army or are good, loyal citizens for the tzar and his bureaucrats.

In some cases, we have either the aristocracy or the managerial elite/artisan and trader classes demanding for more rights, like it happened in Britain and France, and the cycle repeats itself.

Note: I am intentionally using Tzar, when I mean Caesar, which is the original meaning of the word.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

God save the Queen.

Republicanism is disordered, rootless, and Godless and has no place in the British isles.

 

[Agent23]

God save the Queen.

Republicanism is disordered, rootless, and Godless and has no place in the British isles.

Problem is what comes after.
And after.
You want something related to that hoe Meghan Markle and her cuck husband near the throne?

 

[Agent23]

God save the Queen.

Republicanism is disordered, rootless, and Godless and has no place in the British isles.

Problem is what comes after.
And after.
You want something related to that hoe Meghan Markle and her cuck husband near the throne?

 

[Scottty]

Problem is what comes after.
And after.
You want something related to that hoe Meghan Markle and her cuck husband near the throne?

No, and neither do the Windsors.

 

[WolfBear]

And the level of inbreeding.

TBH the cycle goes like this socially, Limited democracy with a respect for written laws and customs -> expanded franchise with more gibs for the plebs to buy votes and growing oligarchy and maybe some bureaucracy -> oligarchy takeover -> Tzars arise and send the oprinichiki to kill some of the bolyars and there is either a situation where there is a bureaucracy-based despotism headed by a tzar, think Prussia, or a new aristocracy that is more heavily aligned with the Tzar but becomes degenerate and incompetent again, or in fewer cases we have an emphasis on written law and customs, think Prussia and germans in general, maybe with the plebs getting more power if they serve in the army or are good, loyal citizens for the tzar and his bureaucrats.

In some cases, we have either the aristocracy or the managerial elite/artisan and trader classes demanding for more rights, like it happened in Britain and France, and the cycle repeats itself.

Note: I am intentionally using Tzar, when I mean Caesar, which is the original meaning of the word.

Do you believe that Bulgaria would have remained a monarchy up to the present-day if it wasn't for World War II and the subsequent Fall of France?

Problem is what comes after.
And after.
You want something related to that hoe Meghan Markle and her cuck husband near the throne?

Thankfully Prince William's three children should not allow that to happen lol. I like the eldest, Prince George, since he reminds me of an extremely young Winston Churchill:

Churchill 2.0 can Britannia into the 22nd century lol!

No, and neither do the Windsors.

Gotta give Prince Harry some credit for bringing some African blood into the British royal family lol! A mix of Britannia and Wakanda lol!

 

[Cherico]

Do you believe that Bulgaria would have remained a monarchy up to the present-day if it wasn't for World War II and the subsequent Fall of France?



Thankfully Prince William's three children should not allow that to happen lol. I like the eldest, Prince George, since he reminds me of an extremely young Winston Churchill:

Churchill 2.0 can Britannia into the 22nd century lol!



Gotta give Prince Harry some credit for bringing some African blood into the British royal family lol! A mix of Britannia and Wakanda lol!

African americans are for the most part centuries removed from actual africa.

 

[VictortheMonarch]

Gotta give Prince Harry some credit for bringing some African blood into the British royal family lol! A mix of Britannia and Wakanda lol!

No, African Americans are so distant from real Africans they honestly shouldn't be called Africans. Americans would be more proper.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

African americans are for the most part centuries removed from actual africa.

Actual Africans also can't sodding stand them. Which is rather sad in all honesty, as African Americans are among the most lost and rootless diasporas in history.

 

[WolfBear]

No, African Americans are so distant from real Africans they honestly shouldn't be called Africans. Americans would be more proper.

They still have 80% African genetic ancestry, though. And culturally, there are some differences, no doubt, but still some similarities with Sub-Saharan Africa as well, such as extremely high crime rates.

 

[Agent23]

Do you believe that Bulgaria would have remained a monarchy up to the present-day if it wasn't for World War II and the subsequent Fall of France?

And what does France have to do with it?
I mean, both our ruling dynasties were German in origin after the Liberation.

As to your question - I certainly doubt it, and the latest sprog in the line is a total moron.

Thankfully Prince William's three children should not allow that to happen lol. I like the eldest, Prince George, since he reminds me of an extremely young Winston Churchill:

Churchill 2.0 can Britannia into the 22nd century lol!

Yeah, pretty sure that is just baby fat, they lose it within a few years and become less "cute".
You probably had those far cheeks when you were one, too.

Gotta give Prince Harry some credit for bringing some African blood into the British royal family lol! A mix of Britannia and Wakanda lol!

More like Wokeanda, and Spoiledkanda, and Attentionwhorekanda.

 

[WolfBear]

And what does France have to do with it?
I mean, both our ruling dynasties were German in origin after the Liberation.

As to your question - I certainly doubt it, and the latest sprog in the line is a total moron.


Yeah, pretty sure that is just baby fat, they lose it within a few years and become less "cute".
You probably had those far cheeks when you were one, too.


More like Wokeanda, and Spoiledkanda, and Attentionwhorekanda.

The Fall of France is the reason that Bulgaria got involved in WWII in the first place. No Fall of France = no Axis invasion and partition of Yugoslavia and also no Operation Barbarossa.