Election 2020 Another one bites the dust: Jay Inslee drops out

Comrade Clod

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Another WASP whose words are irrelevant because in the Pit what matters is who is speaking and not the content of their speech. If we keep this up soon enough we shall have elections like in the developing nations; everyone will show up at the polls and vote lockstep for their tribe's candidate. Ah well, such it goes.
 

Comrade Clod

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Another WASP whose words are irrelevant because in the Pit what matters is who is speaking and not the content of their speech. If we keep this up soon enough we shall have elections like in the developing nations; everyone will show up at the polls and vote lockstep for their tribe's candidate. Ah well, such it goes.

Most people I talk to tend to see the distinct tribalism as a feature of US politics, not something especially recent (and also more prevalent within the Republican party)
 

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Most people I talk to tend to see the distinct tribalism as a feature of US politics, not something especially recent (and also more prevalent within the Republican party)
HAHA. Are you serious?

Union workers can't stand the Greens. Inner city blacks can't stand New England Wasps. LGBT is hated by Hispanics and Blacks. Single working professionals despise the idea of free college education. The Progressives are hated by virtually every other block to a greater or lesser extent.

The Democrats only win Presidential elections when they have a candidate whose personal charisma can overcome the fundamentally irreconcilable policy differences between the (many) disparate tribes that make up the Democrat party.
 

Comrade Clod

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HAHA. Are you serious?

Union workers can't stand the Greens. Inner city blacks can't stand New England Wasps. LGBT is hated by Hispanics and Blacks. Single working professionals despise the idea of free college education. The Progressives are hated by virtually every other block to a greater or lesser extent.

The Democrats only win Presidential elections when they have a candidate whose personal charisma can overcome the fundamentally irreconcilable policy differences between the (many) disparate tribes that make up the Democrat party.

I do not see the world through tribes, it is an explanation of things that I find unsatisfying. But regardless, when I say tribalism is a feature, I mean in the Republican block as a whole.

In no other truly democratic nation do I see people vote for a party so blatantly corrupt, self serving and generally out for the interests of noone but the super-rich and the fanatics. The Republicans should be standing tall atop a victory totem given their relatively conservative stance on issues like abortion and the myriad of issues the democrats have, instead they won the popular vote exactly once in twenty years because what they stand for alienates so many.

The generally conservative rural and even urban African Americans should, if the census and polls speak true regarding their stances on many issues, be overwhelmingly in support of the republicans. Instead the racism of the party means that in some areas the democrats enjoy 90% support.

Spanish speaking or descended voters too tend to be on average more religious and distinctly against issues like abortion, but the Republicans being, shall we say, complete asses, has instead driven them front and centre to the democrats, helping form the nucleus of the moderate faction and bolstering the progressive faction and even the DSA with people like Occasio-Cortez

Native Americans, one of the most rural subgroups in america least connected to much of what the Democrats shout from the rooftops, should by all rights be front and centre republican supporters. If you guessed why they ain't it has some similarities to the above two.

The Republican party relies upon the old, the racist and the desperate, two of those look set to take care of themselves, no matter what happens in the next few years (Especially the recession if the indicator thats always been right about recessions before is right). I am actually impressed how thouroughly the GOP has turned those who should be its allies into its mortal foes.
 

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In no other truly democratic nation do I see people vote for a party so blatantly corrupt, self serving and generally out for the interests of noone but the super-rich and the fanatics.
The most powerful corporations in America funnel most of their political donations to Democrats.

Spanish speaking or descended voters too tend to be on average more religious and distinctly against issues like abortion, but the Republicans being, shall we say, complete asses, has instead driven them front and centre to the democrats, helping form the nucleus of the moderate faction and bolstering the progressive faction and even the DSA with people like Occasio-Cortez
When it comes to the size of government, Hispanics are more likely than the general public to say they would rather have a bigger government which provides more services than a smaller government which provides fewer services.

Some 75% of Hispanics hold this view; just 19% say they prefer a smaller government. By contrast, just 41% of the public at large voice support for a bigger government.
Three quarters of Hispanics tend to support bigger government and more government services. Regardless of whether or not Republicans are racist, they are going to strongly lean Democrat based on the fact that they want a larger, more involved government with more government based services, which is what the Democrats promise. This isnt true of all. If you break it down by group Cubans are still heavily Republican.

The Republican party relies upon the old, the racist and the desperate, two of those look set to take care of themselves, no matter what happens in the next few years (Especially the recession if the indicator thats always been right about recessions before is right). I am actually impressed how thouroughly the GOP has turned those who should be its allies into its mortal foes.
There's been 7 recessions since 1950 and 8 times that the inverted yield curve has happened, so yes, it actually has been wrong. This would also be considered vastly too small a sample size to be an accurate statistic. It's also interesting you'd say Republicans rely on the desperate. I would imagine all the promises of free everything rely vastly more on the desperate, whereas promises of lower taxes and less interference with your life rely on the vote of the self sufficient, self reliant, who can take care of themselves and their families and don't want more of their income taken from them.
 

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Man I remember when I thought the GOP race in 2016 was big. How large was the DNC Clown Car of candidates when the race started? How many are left?
 

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You know, maybe I should watch the DNC debates, it looks like it is going to be a hilarious game of musical chairs.
 

Comrade Clod

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There are however only 3 serious candidates and 1-2 maybes left (Biden, Warren, Sanders and buttgieg sort of but not really)
 

prinCZess

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Honestly, with how the 2016 Republican primaries went down and there seemed to be a similar style of 'flavor-of-the-week' to people's surges (does anyone remember Carly Fiorina? Or Herman fricken' Cain?) I'm not set on discounting the 'also-ran' Democrats this time around--especially when it seems like the shoe-in (Biden) is...prone to missteps and generally a weak candidate overall?
So far, it seems to even fit that pattern. O'Rourke was the TIME magazine man, then Sanders was the hip thing for a bit (perhaps debatably, but he was second to Biden), then Butiegeg (sp?) surged, then Harris, now maybe Warren...If one of the upper names self-destructs or flames-out as seems possible (Warren, Biden and Harris all seem like they have pretty major vulnerabilities), it could shake things up so much that you get people flocking to the 'also-rans' in enough numbers to make a race of things.

But maybe that's excessive cynicism from the last political merry-go-round and things really are limited to the top-tier.

As to this in particular...Even kind of knowing Inslee from non-presidential primary stuff, I still had to google him to be sure he was the Washington gov. I thought he was. Dude was firmly in the 'also-ran' camp and just didn't have enough traction to make it, it seems.
 

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