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DocSolarisReich

Esoteric Spaceman
false lol. The current stats don’t show that at all. White Americans are the number one voting Demographic for the right. Cubans and Vietnamese, the strongest right wing new immigrant voting block are even less so than White Americans.

Heck, we don't even have to go back to 1790 rules, just repealing the 19th Amendment would shift the overton window hard to the right.

 

ATP

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...Words fail me at the level of wrongness and ignorance built into this post.

Are you under the impression that the Puritans had control of the entire US Federal Government in the 1800's or something?



I don't have to ally with anyone. If one flavor of racists want to vote for the Republican party because they don't like that the Democrats kicked them out and are now racist against them, so long as it doesn't change the actual Republican platform, that gives all the gains without needing to cost anything.

As I tell leftists, if the Republican party is supposedly racist, where is the actual policy that indicates this?

Or is it because two dudes showed up to some rally with a Confederate battle flag, and the MSM focused on nothing else, that I'm supposed to believe the whole movement is attainted?


1.No,puritans never controlled USA - but genocided indian tribes in 17th century like Pequot,becouse they belived that they are New Israel,and indians are Caananitees destined to die.
That is why there is no real indian tribes on USA East Shore,only white dudes claiming to be descendents of some survivors.And taking money for that.

2.Your Republaic was made by racist WASP,and now leftist are turning it into Gulag.You could either fight with everyone who still belive in USA,which include racist WASP,or end in Gulag.
Do you really commit suicide becouse somebody said something about judish lasers ? In leftist Gulag there would be no antisemitism - becouse all people would be treatet equally shitty.I do not think,that jews would appreciate that.

You think,that they never do that? i read memories on russian progressive woman who managed to run from soviets.Most of them do not fought soviets,becouse they do not think that they really do what they say.And white was bad antysemites,so they could not support them.
Result? white died fighting,progressive died in gulags.

If you do not work together,you would be hanged separatly.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Hostility to BLM and in group loyalty during intra-ethnic conflict does not necessarily imply right wing in the full sense of the term, however I will admit the DR and Cubans do tend be based generally in my anecdotal experience. However South America is a big place, and I wouldn't tend to agree that say Peruvians and Argentinians are generally as dexterous as say Chileans and Columbians, if that makes sense...

When they make Youtube videos calling for Americans to rise up and begin exterminating "Degenerates, Shills, Bankers and mongrels"?

Although it's amusing for a Dominican to call anyone a mongrel...I'm pretty confident when the guys who started the massacre use Peron/Pinochet talking points and are overwhelmingly supported not just by Dominicans but other islanders?

Yeah.

false lol. The current stats don’t show that at all. White Americans are the number one voting Demographic for the right. Cubans and Vietnamese, the strongest right wing new immigrant voting block are even less so than White Americans.

Hardly false, your salvation lies in those of us who are willing to punish the left.

Only a handful of your native born whites have the will to do that, the rest of us though.

Heck, we don't even have to go back to 1790 rules, just repealing the 19th Amendment would shift the overton window hard to the right.


Oh guess which demographic overwhelmingly supports that.

Venezuelans apparently.

I guess all those soccer moms voting for Chavez really turned them off giving women and servants the franchise.

Hilariously Ecuadorians are as well. Though they vote overwhelmingly democrat, even Ecuadorian feminists think women should get back into the kitchen. Funny how that works
 

DocSolarisReich

Esoteric Spaceman
When they make Youtube videos calling for Americans to rise up and begin exterminating "Degenerates, Shills, Bankers and mongrels"?

Naming the banker. Power levels rising off the chart! I mean, while Dominicans and other Caribs are obviously various casta, they have the example of Haiti next door which tends to concentrate the attention.

I'm pretty confident when the guys who started the massacre use Peron/Pinochet talking points

Viva Peron. Viva Pinochet. Viva Franco. Viva la muerta. Muera la inteligencia!

I can grok the lingo.

Only a handful of your native born whites have the will to do that, the rest of us though.

Truth. Knowing what must be done is insufficient. What is needful is the will.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Naming the banker. Power levels rising off the chart! I mean, while Dominicans and other Caribs are obviously various casta, they have the example of Haiti next door which tends to concentrate the attention.

There was a Dominican dictator who brought communists and fascists together in brotherhood and harmony by promising them the right to go hunt Haitians for sport every last Sunday of the month.

Democrats, fuckheads that they are imported a huge chunk of the grand children of that dudes soldiers and dumped them in Chicago. Idiots assume all of us are dumb Central American indios who will just mindlessly obey their lefty patrons not realizing outside of Central America the poor and middle class groups tend to listen to strong men who power level and talk a good game about revenge and God.

That's how Trump got the vote.

Viva Peron. Viva Pinochet. Viva Franco. Viva la muerta. Muera la inteligencia!

I can grok the lingo.

My favorite one was form Videla "Tienen que volar!"

Which they did, he had commies and social just activists thrown out of cargo planes Amistad style.

Truth. Knowing what must be done is insufficient. What is needful is the will.

The Anglo has submitted to the yoke as has the Boer, the Slav, the Celt and the Copt are still holding strong though. As is the Turk..for now.

Let someone lead them.
 

LindyAF

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Heck, we don't even have to go back to 1790 rules, just repealing the 19th Amendment would shift the overton window hard to the right.
Oh guess which demographic overwhelmingly supports that.

Venezuelans apparently.

I guess all those soccer moms voting for Chavez really turned them off giving women and servants the franchise.

Hilariously Ecuadorians are as well. Though they vote overwhelmingly democrat, even Ecuadorian feminists think women should get back into the kitchen. Funny how that works

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White Women don't go mostly dem. They lean less right-wing than White Men do, but they still lean right, and even if only White Women voted, Republicans would still win in a landslide.

In contrast no matter how you break down nonwhites into any race or ethnicity, or by men or women of that ethnicity, you almost never get so much as one red state. I think there's been a few elections where if you take specifically asian men, you can get like one super deep red state to lean Republican, but that's it.
 

DocSolarisReich

Esoteric Spaceman
White Women don't go mostly dem. They lean less right-wing than White Men do, but they still lean right, and even if only White Women voted, Republicans would still win in a landslide.

In contrast no matter how you break down nonwhites into any race or ethnicity, or by men or women of that ethnicity, you almost never get so much as one red state.

But is voting GOP actually right wing in any real way though? We are where we are despite multiple grass roots movements to put in Nixon, Reagan, and Trump. At some point, we have to admit that this isn't working.
 

FriedCFour

PunishedCFour
Founder
But is voting GOP actually right wing in any real way though? We are where we are despite multiple grass roots movements to put in Nixon, Reagan, and Trump. At some point, we have to admit that this isn't working.
That’s why you need to be selective with your vote. Primary them, and if an establishment Republican wins don’t only withhold your vote, vote for the Democrat to help them lose. The Democratic Party has undergone a radical shift in politics and views since the 1960s because of people infiltrating and changing it.
 

strunkenwhite

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In contrast no matter how you break down nonwhites into any race or ethnicity, or by men or women of that ethnicity, you almost never get so much as one red state.
That's a very dramatic map, and I would love to be able to trust it, but when it tells me that Iowa would go blue via white people, and blue via people of color, but red by over 8 points in actuality, how can I possibly trust that?
 

LindyAF

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But is voting GOP actually right wing in any real way though? We are where we are despite multiple grass roots movements to put in Nixon, Reagan, and Trump. At some point, we have to admit that this isn't working.

Eh, I think regardless of whether voting GOP is an effective strategy, it's a reasonable proxy for being right-wing, at least in comparison with voting democrat. I somehow doubt hispanics vote overwhelmingly democrat b/c accelerationism or anything.
 

FriedCFour

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That's a very dramatic map, and I would love to be able to trust it, but when it tells me that Iowa would go blue via white people, and blue via people of color, but red by over 8 points in actuality, how can I possibly trust that?
Look at the breakdown of white. It’s entirely possible that the numbers of those who do vote put Iowa Red. This is also an older map iirc.
 

strunkenwhite

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Naturalization is a part of immigration though. The Irish could both legally immigrate here and after a few years of residency, good character and swearing an oath would be able to gain citizenship.
The Irish, yes, but not any non-whites. As far as I know, there is no constitutional requirement to let legal immigrants become citizens regardless of time of residence etc.
Stop being deliberately dense, no one cares about temporary visitors who will never formally be your peer. Immigration and Naturalization are parts of whole, see 'Immigration and Naturalization Services' What immigration restrictionists today are talking about is exactly what the act of 1790 is talking about.
It's hilarious that you say I'm being deliberately dense when you're ignoring that the act being cited did not enable permanent nonwhite residents to be naturalized. Your talk of "temporary visitors" is a red herring. Immigration and naturalization are interrelated but they are not interchangeable.

I am pretty sure that a solid majority of immigration restrictionists are concerned with things like "they're taking jobs away from Americans" which is not related to whether or not they are citizens but whether or not they are here. There are those who say "I do not care if they come here; I just don't want them to be citizens able to vote." And given our current laws such people would be against them immigrating on account of the pathway to citizenship that has been made available to legal immigrants. But I think people who take this position are relatively few compared to the people motivated by economics or other factors.

But hey, I don't really have numbers on that so feel free to hit me with some.
 

LindyAF

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That's a very dramatic map, and I would love to be able to trust it, but when it tells me that Iowa would go blue via white people, and blue via people of color, but red by over 8 points in actuality, how can I possibly trust that?

This is a great point, and tbh something I should have noticed.

The map was made prior to the 2016 election using the website 538's election tools. Here

It is not based on 2016 exit polls. In absence of a actual total map here, I'm not sure if this could have been the result of merely good polling for Clinton at some point prior to the election leading, (538 did predict a Trump win in Iowa in 2016 immediately prior to the election, but by a much narrower margin than actually occurred, and when this map was made it could have been predicting a Clinton win).

Edit: Yep, at the time 538 was predicting a Clinton win in Iowa on the basis of polls and historic voting.
 

DocSolarisReich

Esoteric Spaceman
Eh, I think regardless of whether voting GOP is an effective strategy, it's a reasonable proxy for being right-wing, at least in comparison with voting democrat. I somehow doubt hispanics vote overwhelmingly democrat b/c accelerationism or anything.

Not sure I agree. Voting GOP would be a reliable proxy for 'conservative' ie right-liberal or classical-liberal, but since liberalism is a sin, I wouldn't count this right wing in any real way. The right wing response to democracy is either to stay home or vote for whoever promises your ethnic group the most. Which is one reason to not want ethnic diversity in your country even if the other group agrees with your ideology or religion.
 

Navarro

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But is voting GOP actually right wing in any real way though? We are where we are despite multiple grass roots movements to put in Nixon, Reagan, and Trump. At some point, we have to admit that this isn't working.

I mean, your definition of "left-wing" includes 13th century French monarchs, so .... you might be a little miscalibrated.

Not sure I agree. Voting GOP would be a reliable proxy for 'conservative' ie right-liberal or classical-liberal, but since liberalism is a sin, I wouldn't count this right wing in any real way. The right wing response to democracy is either to stay home or vote for whoever promises your ethnic group the most. Which is one reason to not want ethnic diversity in your country even if the other group agrees with your ideology or religion.

Or ... you could move to a country where violent warlords using forced labour (which you've stated is the ordained form of government) rule arbitrarily over their destitute subjects in-between the private wars they fight every-so-often with each other. There are quite a number of fetching ones in Africa, I hear. Or maybe cartel territory in Mexico.

EDIT: Also "voting is sinful unless it's to benefit your race"? You can really see where the ideological seams fail to connect here.

EDIT 2:

Also, assemblies and elective monarchies predate hereditary monarchies, so are arguably more traditional:



(In fact, it was those medieval/early-modern centralising monarchs you bitch about ruining everything who weakened the local assemblies and other power-structures and installed hereditary rule, so ...).
 
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The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
In contrast no matter how you break down nonwhites into any race or ethnicity, or by men or women of that ethnicity, you almost never get so much as one red state. I think there's been a few elections where if you take specifically asian men, you can get like one super deep red state to lean Republican, but that's it.

And as I've said repeatedly, this is a trend that isn't going to last long.

You can deny it all you want but the future of America isn't in self hating whites.

There is literally zero evidence of that lol. Non whites overwhelmingly vote blue in nearly all breakdowns. If you have any data to show otherwise please, show me.

You mean besides the needle move last election? Anglos are doomed because they're ashamed of being white. The fact that Republican Senators have been thrown out saying being proud of being white isn't a bad thing might, just might be why less immigrants vote red?

I mean most of us hate race traitors 377906135971397634.png


Not sure I agree. Voting GOP would be a reliable proxy for 'conservative' ie right-liberal or classical-liberal, but since liberalism is a sin, I wouldn't count this right wing in any real way. The right wing response to democracy is either to stay home or vote for whoever promises your ethnic group the most. Which is one reason to not want ethnic diversity in your country even if the other group agrees with your ideology or religion.

The right wing response to Democracy is to limit the franchise to only those willing to bleed to gain it and who have a stake in the country.

So property owners, parents, grandparents and militia members/veterans.
 

FriedCFour

PunishedCFour
Founder
You mean besides the needle move last election? Anglos are doomed because they're ashamed of being white. The fact that Republican Senators have been thrown out saying being proud of being white isn't a bad thing might, just might be why less immigrants vote red?
The needle that didn’t move to a majority? The highest R Hispanic vote ever was for freaking Bush dude. You have no shred of evidence for anything lol.
 

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