Adeptus Custodes replaces the Jedi Order.

[Tyzuris]

Basically assume that the Jedi suddenly disappear and all 10000 Custodes are transported to Coruscant in their stead. Assume they also get whatever they need to maintain and produce their equipment, create more Custodes, their own warfleet of the finest few tens of capital ships and over a hundred escorts the Imperium has to offer and ship yards. They also get whatever serf staff they need to operate the ships, etc...

For some reason or another, the Custodes agree to take on the role of peace keepers the Jedi were and their goal is to keep peace across the galaxy. Assume this happens a couple of decades before The Phantom Menace.

How will this affect the SW galaxy?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

oh dear...they need an Emperor...so...Welcome to power Emperor Palpatine! 🤪

On a serious note:
IS the FORCE open to them? I mean, they would likely be able to fight almost any Jedi on AT LEAST even terms if not outright turn them into little display pieces like collectors do with butterflies. Their speed, endurance and strength EVEN BEFORE they put on their power armor (which is likely to be at least resistant to light sabers like Beskar) would shame most Jedi combatants.

Some of the possible consequences:
"Peace" will be kept. These guys are infinitely more capable of military command then ANY Jedi except the Jedi Lords of old. Weird part for all other parties will be that these guys won't just take over b/c they are conditioned to serve the Emperor. In this case some odd ramifications may result on 'what' the Custodes are supposed to serve. (The Force, Emperor, Senatorial President?)

Small factions will get hosed if they try anything. I'm sure the Custodes will setup several hidden fleet bases and possibly takeover Kuat, because they might need to massively increase their fleet presence if some unexpected threat or war breaks out.

Hell, depending on what the Custodes view of Peace is, you may end up with the First Order WAY before it's time...even before Palpy ever thinks to get on the scene.

 

[Tyzuris]

On a serious note:
IS the FORCE open to them? I mean, they would likely be able to fight almost any Jedi on AT LEAST even terms if not outright turn them into little display pieces like collectors do with butterflies. Their speed, endurance and strength EVEN BEFORE they put on their power armor (which is likely to be at least resistant to light sabers like Beskar) would shame most Jedi combatants.

Nope. They have to rely on their canon abilities.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Nope. They have to rely on their canon abilities.

Which are ridiculously formidable.

Can they go over the 10,000 Limit? If they can, and since they are functionally immortal, you could get to some staggering numbers of Custodes after a couple of centuries.

If not, I don't think it changes too much of their potential. The Vong would get OWNED against these people. The Empire might get crushed as well. Darkside users will have LOTS of problems of their own; the Custodes' force of Will would prevent most of the kind of mind shenanigans that they can use. Can't use a lightsaber to send their shot back b/c they will explode in the force user's face the moment it makes contact with the saber. TK may be one of the few effective powers against them...maybe.

Their existence w/in the SW'verse would change things drastically.

 

[Simonbob]

How will this affect the SW galaxy?

I LOL'd.


Slightly more seriously, an order of incorruptable super soldiers keeping the peace is going to change all sorts of things.

Heh.

"So, this person is Sith. Is this fight self defence? If not, I'm arresting you for attempted murder."

 

[Bear Ribs]

I'm not the most familiar with 40K ever but I'm under the impression the Imperium doesn't like Xenos much. Aren't the Custodes likely to decide to wipe out the many alien races?

 

[BlackDragon98]

Basically, Palps gets his semi-immortal supersoldiers for his Empire along a massive fleet to transport them.

Palps takes the galaxy and crushes any opposition.

 

[Tyzuris]

Can they go over the 10,000 Limit? If they can, and since they are functionally immortal, you could get to some staggering numbers of Custodes after a couple of centuries.

Assume that they can, but incredibly slowly. Like maybe at the rate of a battalion per decade at max due to production pipelines.

Some of the possible consequences:
"Peace" will be kept. These guys are infinitely more capable of military command then ANY Jedi except the Jedi Lords of old. Weird part for all other parties will be that these guys won't just take over b/c they are conditioned to serve the Emperor. In this case some odd ramifications may result on 'what' the Custodes are supposed to serve. (The Force, Emperor, Senatorial President?)

Assume that they are beholden to the Senate and the Republic swearing an oath to serve the Senate and the Republic.

 

[BlackDragon98]

Assume that they are beholden to the Senate and the Republic swearing an oath to serve the Senate and the Republic.

But he is the Senate.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Assume that they are beholden to the Senate and the Republic swearing an oath to serve the Senate and the Republic.

Ooof!

That leaves a LOT of room for shenanigans and internal struggle. So who would be the final authority, or would the Custodes Commander be able to determine his ultimate loyalty (and thus the loyalty of his Custodes) based on his interpretation of what would better serve the Republic?

 

[Tyzuris]

Ooof!

That leaves a LOT of room for shenanigans and internal struggle. So who would be the final authority, or would the Custodes Commander be able to determine his ultimate loyalty (and thus the loyalty of his Custodes) based on his interpretation of what would better serve the Republic?

Basically assume that they are dedicated to preserving the Republic and its form of government being first loyal to keeping the Republic as it is and secondarily loyal to the Senate.

 

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Outer Rim is purged of the bads like the Hut Cartel. Slaves on Tatooine are liberated. Etc. Unless Palpatine is somehow able to get his mindcontrol implants into the Custodes, there isn't really anyway for him to overtly turn the Republic into an Empire without being shot within half an hour of the declaration. After his term as Chancellor is up, he might be able to remain as the man behind the curtain with incredible political influence and connections.

Biggest problem is that the largest institution with knowledge about the Force has just disappeared.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Ok. So defend the Constitution from all Enemies...

Hmmm...I'm gonna have to think about this one a bit.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

OK, I've thought about it.

So we're probably dealing with the Old Republic for the creation of the Adeptus Jedi. (tm)
-means we have the Rights of Sentients (outlawed slavery)
-pretty much means the Hutts are gonna get boned along with any other Slaving-running species
-Wars with the Mandaloreans are probably going to be shorter and bloodier.
-Sith will be seen as Terrorist organization (drone strikes a plenty) or just hit teams of Adeptus Jedi

Effects of these very militant protectors on follow on forces:
-imagine that ANY Adeptus Jedi would have the authority to command whatever military/naval forces were at hand to deal with whatever that Adeptus Jedi needed dealt with.
-ability to deputize others as necessary for the pursuit of fugitives and criminals
-possibly even the dispensation of Justice in all sectors; and I use the capital (J)ustice meaningfully. Their decision would have the binding force of law though I'd imagine there would be some path for appeal to a specific authority. (maybe a sector political officer or court)

Just running through the numbers:
Old Republic was formed roughly 25,000 BBY for a starting Adeptus Jedi population of 10,000 + "Staff"
-it's a rough job and there's lots of galaxy for accidents to happen so let's just say that they loose 1 a month. That means they lose 120 Adeptus Jedi every 10 years on average then DOUBLE that just cuz. So -240 every 10 years. (I'm being kinda pessimistic hear) We'll call a Company equal to 100, and say there are 4 Companies to a Battalion. With that in mind that's 400 new Adeptus Custodes every 10 year - 240 lost for the same time will give a growth rate of 160 every 10 years.

So...by the time of Senator Palpatine they MAY be upwards of (160)(2,500)+10,000 = 410,000 Adeptus Jedi. Now...that's just kinda nuts to think about, and disturbing for every member of the Senate and Galaxy to realize there are people as old as the Republic about! (Though we do know that there are Adeptus Custodes older than 10,000 years, so it's not so crazy in fluff) To make it work a bit better, I can see the Adeptus Jedi have their "Senior Citizens" retire to hidden location/s to continue to train and support the 'active' personnel. Some are sent to hidden fleet bases, or where the gene-seed is kept.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I'm not the most familiar with 40K ever but I'm under the impression the Imperium doesn't like Xenos much. Aren't the Custodes likely to decide to wipe out the many alien races?

You'd be right...sorta. The Emperor, and thus the Custodes, were never really about killing off all Xenos. If a race showed it was willing to work with Humanity by embracing their goals, they were allowed to coexist.
The key point for this though is that they Adeptus Jedi are restrained by the founding documents of the Old Republic. One of the main articles specifies the Rights of Sentients so that all "Xenos" are people too!

 

[Husky_Khan]

So...by the time of Senator Palpatine they MAY be upwards of (160)(2,500)+10,000 = 410,000 Adeptus Jedi. Now...that's just kinda nuts to think about, and disturbing for every member of the Senate and Galaxy to realize there are people as old as the Republic about! (Though we do know that there are Adeptus Custodes older than 10,000 years, so it's not so crazy in fluff) To make it work a bit better, I can see the Adeptus Jedi have their "Senior Citizens" retire to hidden location/s to continue to train and support the 'active' personnel. Some are sent to hidden fleet bases, or where the gene-seed is kept.

Having 140,000 Adeptus Custodes seems a bit much. Keep in mind there were only like 25,000 Jedi or whatever.

I know scifi, especially Star Wars, has bad cases of scale so logically it might actually make more sense but still. Thematically speaking...

 

[Tyzuris]

Where do you get a 140000 Custodes?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

@Tyzuris I believe @Husky_Khan was getting a bit dyslexic with a possible population growth to the initial 10,000 Adeptus Jedi IFF they swapped with the OTL Jedi at the formation of the Old Republic. I had listed a potential loss rate and growth rate based on the aforementioned Battalion per decade. I came up with 410,000 possible Adeptus Custodes in existence at the time of the Empire.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Where do you get a 140000 Custodes?

Oh lemme add a quote. It's hard to do on a mobile phone... well it's not actually if I used my brain... so it is for me.

And yeah lol... I switched the numbers. Clearly my little brain couldn't comprehend the stupefyingly huge amount of 40Ker Sweeping Advance potential with over 400,000 Custodes glamming it up.

 

[Tyzuris]

@Tyzuris I believe @Husky_Khan was getting a bit dyslexic with a possible population growth to the initial 10,000 Adeptus Jedi IFF they swapped with the OTL Jedi at the formation of the Old Republic. I had listed a potential loss rate and growth rate based on the aforementioned Battalion per decade. I came up with 410,000 possible Adeptus Custodes in existence at the time of the Empire.

The Custodes were transported two decades before The Phantom Menace. So by the Phantom Menace, they'd have had time to get two more battalions. And by Revenge of the Sith era there would have been time to create a third battalion. And by when the OT would have had A New Hope, there would have been time enough for a couple of more battalions.

So overall the Custodes force would still be between 10000-15000.