Additional realistic members of the "nuclear club"?

WolfBear

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I wonder if they were ever really that close. They are a low population country with a low scientific. technical base. Their main asset is being able to throw spare cash at the problem. I feel like if Iran hasn't done it in all this time, I'm skeptical if Libya could have pulled everything together.

A little bit of reading about the Libyan nuclear weapons program:

 

TheRomanSlayer

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If we had different leaders and policies, the Philippines could be a potential nuclear club member. Problem is, SE Asia is declared a nuclear free zone.
 

WolfBear

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If we had different leaders and policies, the Philippines could be a potential nuclear club member. Problem is, SE Asia is declared a nuclear free zone.

Yep:


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WolfBear

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If we had nuclear weapons though, we could have stopped China from stealing more of the disputed Spratly Islands.

But using nuclear weapons over this is very risky since it could trigger an all-out nuclear war and it's not a battle for existential survival.
 

bintananth

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But using nuclear weapons over this is very risky since it could trigger an all-out nuclear war and it's not a battle for existential survival.
Merely posessing nuclear weapons is, I think, what @TheRomanSlayer was getting at. Toss in a stated willingness to use "all of them" at a moment's notice and the borders will not by challenged by any country which can't go "tit-for-tat"
 

WolfBear

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Poland I suppose could seek nuclear weapons had NATO been disbanded after the end of the Cold War. Also possible but less likely are Czechoslovakia, the Baltics, and Romania doing the same thing. Or they could simply rely on the Polish nuclear umbrella.

The Poles could have faith that the Germans accepted the Oder-Neisse Line, but they might still want a precaution just in case.
 
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raharris1973

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2.If Jelcyn was smart - he would let Belarus and Uraine keep nuclear weapons in exchange for never joining NATO.The same with Poland,Hungary and Czech republic.

Is Jelcyn your attempt to spell Yeltsin? Does it work as a joke in a Slavic language like your your 'Sralin' thing does? (You also call Trotsky 'Trocky', does that work as a joke in Russian or Polish?)

Anyway, why would a nuclear Belarus and Ukraine with a no-NATO pledge be a better outcome, short-term or long-term, for Russia? And what keeps those countries honoring the no-NATO pledge forever?
 

ATP

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Is Jelcyn your attempt to spell Yeltsin? Does it work as a joke in a Slavic language like your your 'Sralin' thing does? (You also call Trotsky 'Trocky', does that work as a joke in Russian or Polish?)

Anyway, why would a nuclear Belarus and Ukraine with a no-NATO pledge be a better outcome, short-term or long-term, for Russia? And what keeps those countries honoring the no-NATO pledge forever?
Jelcyn in polish language.Trocky - my mistake.
Better outcome for Russia,becouse safe countries do not need USA Big brother.Which now is needed for us.
I would prefer Poland with 500 nuclear warheads,but,when it is impossible,i must agree to USA Big brother,becouse otherwise Putin would denazify me.
 

Batrix2070

RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Poland I suppose could seek nuclear weapons
Technically, we were looking for this capability in the 1970s, a dream of Gierek that clearly did not come true. And the chief scientist responsible for Poland's nuclear program (more accurately, nuclear fusion but let's not get hung up on the details) died in a car accident. Wonder why.
ATP transcribed the name according to English phonetics but through a Polish transcription from Russian.
Correctly it should be Trocki.
 
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