Sergeant Foley

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I agree, with the caveat that Warnock could have been the victor if he hadn't stared like a deer in headlights when Walker hit him with the allegations about evicting tenants or whatever. Later on in the debate, he said no one had been evicted, but I don't think that in the mind of the audience it made up for the fact that he refused to answer the question the first time he got hit with it.
Doubling-down on Kemp carrying Walker over the finish line in all likelihood
 

DarthOne

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Mail-in Ballots Just Became a Legal Problem for Pennsylvania...Again



Ahead of November's midterm elections now just three weeks away, the Republican National Committee — joined by the National Republican Congressional Committee, Republican Party of Pennsylvania, and several Keystone State voters — has filed a lawsuit against the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to prevent the counting of mail-in ballots that don't meet explicit state requirements.

In a joint statement, RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, NRCC Chairman Rep. Tom Emmer (R-MN), PAGOP Chairman Lawrence Tabas noted "as the Pennsylvania legislature and U.S. Supreme Court have made clear, undated mail-in ballots should not be counted" and pledged that "Republicans are holding Pennsylvania Democrats accountable for their brazen defiance of the Supreme Court and the rules duly set by the legislature."

"Pennsylvania Democrats have a history of election integrity failures and Pennsylvanians deserve better," the joint statement continued. "This lawsuit is the latest step in Republican efforts to promote free, fair, and transparent elections in the Keystone State."

As the Republicans' lawsuit explains, Pennsylvania requires that "a voter who uses an absentee or mail-in ballot 'shall...fill out, date and sign the declaration' printed on the outer envelope of the ballot." The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has previously upheld that law, ruling any absentee or mail-in ballot that does not comply with the law "is invalid and cannot be counted in any election after the 2020 general election."

What's more, Pennsylvania's official election information portal explicitly explains that ballots submitted without the declaration section on the return envelope properly completed "will not be counted."

But, according to the Republicans' lawsuit, Pennsylvania's acting Secretary of State is apparently directing local officials to include ballots that are not properly filled out, signed, and dated despite SCOTUS' recent decision to vacate a Third Circuit opinion that sought to allow the counting of improperly completed mail-in or absentee ballots:
A panel of the Third Circuit held that the federal materiality statute—which touches on election officials’ determination of whether an “individual is qualified under State law to vote"... somehow preempts the date requirement. The U.S. Supreme Court vacated that holding last week... And when addressing a request for a stay earlier in that case, three Justices even opined that the Third Circuit’s holding is “very likely wrong” on the merits because it rests upon a misconstruction of federal law...
Nonetheless, following the Supreme Court’s vacatur order, the Acting Secretary of the Commonwealth has doubled down on guidance that purports to direct county boards of elections to “include[] in the canvass and pre-canvass . . . [a]ny ballot-return envelope that is undated or dated with an incorrect date but has been timely received"...The Acting Secretary premised that statement on an unpublished, non-precedential decision of the Commonwealth Court adopting the Third Circuit’s now-vacated reasoning that the date requirement is invalid.

So multiple courts have upheld or preserved the Pennsylvania law requiring mail-in and absentee ballots to be properly completed, dated, and signed in order to be counted — but Pennsylvania's acting Secretary of State has said the Keystone State will ignore the SCOTUS ruling and continue instructing officials to count ballots that don't meet the standard set by Keystone State lawmakers. And the acting secretary is not being quiet about the decision to flaunt the law, either, going as far as tweeting that absentee or mail-in ballots that don't meet legal criteria for counting will be counted:




PA Department of State

@PAStateDept



Every county is expected to include undated ballots in their official returns for the Nov election, consistent with guidance &
@CommCtofPA
decision. Today’s order from SCOTUS vacating Third Circuit’s judgment on mootness grounds does not affect the prior decision of
@CommCtofPA
.



3:44 PM · Oct 11, 2022·


Again, the PA Department of State's election information site explains, quite clearly, "if you do not complete the declaration on the return envelope your ballot will not be counted."

Hence Republicans' lawsuit seeking a ruling to "uphold the General Assembly’s date requirement for the imminent 2022 general election and beyond" and "a declaration that the date requirement is valid and mandatory, and that the Acting Secretary’s contrary guidance is invalid." The lawsuit also seeks to have the Court "immediately issue an order directing county boards of elections to segregate any undated or incorrectly dated ballots received for the 2022 general election" as early voting is already underway in Pennsylvania.
 

Husky_Khan

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Sooooo how about that Fetterman-Oz Debate in Pennsylvania. 😬

"Ya know. Ya know. Ya know. Ya know."

No wonder they pushed for early voting. Imagine seeing Fetterman on the debate stage and thinking yeah... He seems sharp enough for the Senate.

"Hi. Good night everybody."

 

The Whispering Monk

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Osaul
Sooooo how about that Fetterman-Oz Debate in Pennsylvania. 😬

"Ya know. Ya know. Ya know. Ya know."

No wonder they pushed for early voting. Imagine seeing Fetterman on the debate stage and thinking yeah... He seems sharp enough for the Senate.

"Hi. Good night everybody."


Yeah...I think we knew this would be a dumpster fire.
 

Cherico

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Mehmet Oz: "Fettermans idea of minimum wage is what he gets from his parents."

😁

OIP.BU-Un7VU_nzBh6UTSInYHgHaIj
 

Sergeant Foley

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Sooooo how about that Fetterman-Oz Debate in Pennsylvania. 😬

"Ya know. Ya know. Ya know. Ya know."

No wonder they pushed for early voting. Imagine seeing Fetterman on the debate stage and thinking yeah... He seems sharp enough for the Senate.

"Hi. Good night everybody."


Busted out laughing at your post on that comment.

Did he really say that on live television?
 

The Whispering Monk

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Osaul

Debates are most useful for attracting swing voters. But even then, they could help partisans refine and rethink some of their arguments for the future even if their minds on whom to vote for will not be changed.
Man...that was an interesting bit of bias to read.
 

Vyor

My influence grows!

Debates are most useful for attracting swing voters. But even then, they could help partisans refine and rethink some of their arguments for the future even if their minds on whom to vote for will not be changed.

like J. Robert Oppenheimer after witnessing the Trinity test, and pledge themselves to a life of repentance.

They can't even get history right. Oppenheimer was haunted by what he'd helped bring about, yes, but he believed it was necessary up to his death.
 

Cherico

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They can't even get history right. Oppenheimer was haunted by what he'd helped bring about, yes, but he believed it was necessary up to his death.

Some times you gives you nothing but terrible choices and you have to pick the least shitty option.

Compared to the death and destruction operation downfall would have caused the nukes were the least bad option.
 

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