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TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist

Sobek

Disgusting Scalie
Media has been trying really hard to keep making the "golpist terrorists" into a political fixture to varying degrees of success. Most people don't care and consider it a mere riot by boomers and to be ignored.

Alexandre de Moraes has increased his censorship and demanded Telegram shut down a channel from some guy. Telegram refused. Moraes plans to fine them, not sure how he expects them to pay.

Lula has funnily enough been against the establishment of a CPI to investigate the "terrorism" (A CPI is like a senate comission) which is funny and people think it is because it would end up exposing how much of a nothing burger it was, or worse, how it might have been staged.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Howdy from the Alamo City Sietch family.
@Cherico @gral @The Whispering Monk Any new developments on the insurrection attempt in Brasilia ?
Media has been trying really hard to keep making the "golpist terrorists" into a political fixture to varying degrees of success. Most people don't care and consider it a mere riot by boomers and to be ignored.

Alexandre de Moraes has increased his censorship and demanded Telegram shut down a channel from some guy. Telegram refused. Moraes plans to fine them, not sure how he expects them to pay.

Lula has funnily enough been against the establishment of a CPI to investigate the "terrorism" (A CPI is like a senate comission) which is funny and people think it is because it would end up exposing how much of a nothing burger it was, or worse, how it might have been staged.

Pretty much I agree except the boomer part.

Lula understood or someone made him understand that he won't govern without having to check his back and also Lulistas (presume his own supporters) already regret having voting in the first place.

Source : Lulistas já se mostram arrependidos de apoio ao petista - Terra Brasil Notícias
 

Sergeant Foley

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Media has been trying really hard to keep making the "golpist terrorists" into a political fixture to varying degrees of success. Most people don't care and consider it a mere riot by boomers and to be ignored.

Alexandre de Moraes has increased his censorship and demanded Telegram shut down a channel from some guy. Telegram refused. Moraes plans to fine them, not sure how he expects them to pay.

Lula has funnily enough been against the establishment of a CPI to investigate the "terrorism" (A CPI is like a senate comission) which is funny and people think it is because it would end up exposing how much of a nothing burger it was, or worse, how it might have been staged.
The Brazilian Senate trying to establish the Brazilian version of 01.06.21 Committee?
 

Sobek

Disgusting Scalie
Lula is actually blaming people in general not Bolsonaro. And it makes sense if you account for the fact they don't want people asking questions about why security was so lax and why these supposed terrorists are being arrested so fast.

In other news one of the center right politicians just did a little trolling and used Lula's own Ministry of Truth shit against him, demanding the STF open a investigation into "antidemocratic fake news" of Lula because he reffered to the legal and valid impeachment of Dilma in 2016 as a coup.
 

Sergeant Foley

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Lula is actually blaming people in general not Bolsonaro. And it makes sense if you account for the fact they don't want people asking questions about why security was so lax and why these supposed terrorists are being arrested so fast.

In other news one of the center right politicians just did a little trolling and used Lula's own Ministry of Truth shit against him, demanding the STF open a investigation into "antidemocratic fake news" of Lula because he reffered to the legal and valid impeachment of Dilma in 2016 as a coup.
Plantalo Palace and other government buildings need to be heavily guarded.
 

gral

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The bastard Lula seems to have done something intelligent for once?

PT is on Putin's side. They released a Russia-friendly note in the day the war in Ukraine started, only to purge it from the internet 2-3 hours later, when it was clear the media wouldn't be on their side on this matter.

Lula is actually blaming people in general not Bolsonaro. And it makes sense if you account for the fact they don't want people asking questions about why security was so lax and why these supposed terrorists are being arrested so fast.

Agreed.

In other news one of the center right politicians just did a little trolling and used Lula's own Ministry of Truth shit against him, demanding the STF open a investigation into "antidemocratic fake news" of Lula because he reffered to the legal and valid impeachment of Dilma in 2016 as a coup.

And THIS is an example of ineffectual shit, meant only to give the idea that 'I'm doing something, so keep voting for me'. When Randolfe Rodrigues does this, it works because the courts and the media are on his side. When someone on the other side does it, it gets slapped down and the guy who started it gets punished in some way.
 

Sergeant Foley

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PT is on Putin's side. They released a Russia-friendly note in the day the war in Ukraine started, only to purge it from the internet 2-3 hours later, when it was clear the media wouldn't be on their side on this matter.



Agreed.



And THIS is an example of ineffectual shit, meant only to give the idea that 'I'm doing something, so keep voting for me'. When Randolfe Rodrigues does this, it works because the courts and the media are on his side. When someone on the other side does it, it gets slapped down and the guy who started it gets punished in some way.
The jackassery of Lula considering 49% of Brazilians did NOT want him.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Daughter Runs Over And Kills Stepfather After He Raped And Beat Her Mother | River City Post This happened apparently.

Also Joe Rogan, Brazil sucks, Russia very low productivity and china is the worst! #joerogan #peterzeihan according to Peter "Imperial America snake oil Salesman" Zeihan Brazil's land is not good for farming... the fuck?

Two comments summarize my feelings towards his bullshit :

Good lord, this guy can take a small nugget of truth and turn it into a mountain of BS. China’s land the worst in terms of agricultural productivity? Then explain how, for most of human civilization China has had the largest population of any country? As for Russia, there are parts that are not naturally very good for agriculture, and some parts that are. (Ukraine, by the way, has great soil). As global warming continues, more Russian lands will be opened up for agriculture. (And ground methane release, unfortunately). As for Brazil, he makes some sense. Slashing and burning Amazon rainforest opens up land, but it’s not very good farming land (the soil is not very deep). Argentina naturally has better land. But Brazil is huge and also has large areas that are natural farmlands.

He is delusional, but saying this nonsense pays well.



Quick search on any browser, mainstream or not, show he is an oddball that gets lots of attention and gets lots of things wrong and he seems to be universally dislike from all the political spectrum.




I am no fan of China, in fact I do believe that it would be beneficial in the long run (BUT IT WILL BE A PAIN IN THE ASS FOR BRAZIL AND OTHERS TOO) but how can the fucker predict every time that China is going to collapse be wrong so many times?
 

Cherico

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Daughter Runs Over And Kills Stepfather After He Raped And Beat Her Mother | River City Post This happened apparently.

Also Joe Rogan, Brazil sucks, Russia very low productivity and china is the worst! #joerogan #peterzeihan according to Peter "Imperial America snake oil Salesman" Zeihan Brazil's land is not good for farming... the fuck?

Two comments summarize my feelings towards his bullshit :

Good lord, this guy can take a small nugget of truth and turn it into a mountain of BS. China’s land the worst in terms of agricultural productivity? Then explain how, for most of human civilization China has had the largest population of any country? As for Russia, there are parts that are not naturally very good for agriculture, and some parts that are. (Ukraine, by the way, has great soil). As global warming continues, more Russian lands will be opened up for agriculture. (And ground methane release, unfortunately). As for Brazil, he makes some sense. Slashing and burning Amazon rainforest opens up land, but it’s not very good farming land (the soil is not very deep). Argentina naturally has better land. But Brazil is huge and also has large areas that are natural farmlands.

He is delusional, but saying this nonsense pays well.



Quick search on any browser, mainstream or not, show he is an oddball that gets lots of attention and gets lots of things wrong and he seems to be universally dislike from all the political spectrum.




I am no fan of China, in fact I do believe that it would be beneficial in the long run (BUT IT WILL BE A PAIN IN THE ASS FOR BRAZIL AND OTHERS TOO) but how can the fucker predict every time that China is going to collapse be wrong so many times?




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Peter is in my opinion making the mistake of comparing the united states arable land map to other countries. The US is a vertiable juggernaut when it comes to agircultural stuff. Other countries are able to play and feed themselves but it takes time. Also its location location location.

As you can see from the arable land map the western half of so of China is pretty much shit when it comes to growing stuff. Now look at the darkgreen where stuff is grown dollars to donuts if you slap a population map over it the areas where china has the most people would be where most of the food is grown.

In agergate yes most of china has shitty land for growing food and thats why the population lives where its grown. Most of russia's food is grown in that agercultural triangle with the vast majorty being legit shit for growing food.

That said China's problem is the imputs to feed their massive and aging population, which is going to be an increasingly hard challange as globalization breaks down.
 

gral

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Also Joe Rogan, Brazil sucks, Russia very low productivity and china is the worst! #joerogan #peterzeihan according to Peter "Imperial America snake oil Salesman" Zeihan Brazil's land is not good for farming... the fuck?

In general, it's really not(although I do think Zeihan exaggerates it a bit). Brazil's areas of good soil(the massapê soils of coastal Northeast and the terra roxa of western São Paulo and northern Paraná states, are small in comparison to the total cultivated area. Brazilian soils tend to be acidic, as a consequence of high precipitation throughout most of the country. The main agricultural lands, located in the Cerrado, were almost useless until Embrapa, with Japanese funding, discovered a way of reducing the acidity of the local soils in the mid-to-late 70s.

What the Cerrado offered was plentiful(Mato Grosso State - which will soon become the largest agricultural producer in Brazil - alone is as big as France and Germany put together), flat land for cultivation. But you need fertilizers and modern agricultural methods to make it a breadbasket.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
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Peter is in my opinion making the mistake of comparing the united states arable land map to other countries. The US is a vertiable juggernaut when it comes to agircultural stuff. Other countries are able to play and feed themselves but it takes time. Also its location location location.

As you can see from the arable land map the western half of so of China is pretty much shit when it comes to growing stuff. Now look at the darkgreen where stuff is grown dollars to donuts if you slap a population map over it the areas where china has the most people would be where most of the food is grown.

In agergate yes most of china has shitty land for growing food and thats why the population lives where its grown. Most of russia's food is grown in that agercultural triangle with the vast majorty being legit shit for growing food.

That said China's problem is the imputs to feed their massive and aging population, which is going to be an increasingly hard challange as globalization breaks down.
In general, it's really not(although I do think Zeihan exaggerates it a bit). Brazil's areas of good soil(the massapê soils of coastal Northeast and the terra roxa of western São Paulo and northern Paraná states, are small in comparison to the total cultivated area. Brazilian soils tend to be acidic, as a consequence of high precipitation throughout most of the country. The main agricultural lands, located in the Cerrado, were almost useless until Embrapa, with Japanese funding, discovered a way of reducing the acidity of the local soils in the mid-to-late 70s.

What the Cerrado offered was plentiful(Mato Grosso State - which will soon become the largest agricultural producer in Brazil - alone is as big as France and Germany put together), flat land for cultivation. But you need fertilizers and modern agricultural methods to make it a breadbasket.


There is more apparently than just the arable stuff apparently though.



Point seems to be that he sound confident enough so he is effective at selling what he says.
 

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