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  1. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Keep in mind that Maduk is a Polish nationalist; it's not his business to give a crap about what happens to Americans. His only concern is what's in Poland's best interest, which a conflict between America and Russia very much would be; so anything that would facilitate that (such as silencing...
  2. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    I'm open to the possibility; but so far, all I'm seeing here is allegations, not proof.
  3. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Don't act like you're not part of the problem, considering your constant efforts to antagonize and belittle everyone you disagree with.
  4. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Not if you label any and all dissent as simping for Russia. Which is what you just did. Honestly, I'm not sure the establishment even needs to do anything; we're tearing into each other, and sowing division between ourselves over this pretty well without their help.
  5. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    There's an argument to be made about self-fulfilling prophecies, but honestly it doesn't really matter anymore at this point. We have other things to worry about now; like the establishment using the conflict with Russia to tighten their grip on power, and silence dissent.
  6. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    It wasn't just the NeoCons though; the entire establishment never believed for a moment that the cold war was over. I mean, Hilary Clinton threatened nuclear war with Russia as one of her campaign promises back in 2016 (which makes her backroom dealings with them even more damning).
  7. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Securing Crimea is going to be the difficult bit, even after the Russian military is pushed out entirely. At least some of the local populace are going to be uncooperative, and a few may even act belligerent towards the Ukrainian military/government.
  8. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    You're ignoring the fact that everyone else's military isn't any better even on that front. China, for example, spends more time indoctrinating their soldiers than training them, while Russia's has been exposed as little more than cannon fodder. As for most of Europe; well, their militaries may...
  9. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    It wouldn't, but good luck getting our current government to do that.
  10. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    The problem is that there's a point where we'd have to start sanctioning ourselves, because of how closely tied economically we still are to China. Most American companies still have their manufacturing over there, are heavily invested in the Chinese market, and/or receive a lot of investment...
  11. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    There's something to be said for being told you're wrong by people on both sides of a conflict.
  12. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    So? They're a country in their own right now, and the people of Ukraine deserve the right to self-governance just as much as everyone else does. The ones who actually want it, I mean; as I also thought the people of Crimea deserved the right to decide that they wanted to be part of Russia instead.
  13. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Still, nobody can't deny that it ended up working in Russia's favor to at least some degree. A lot of people are now more inclined to believe Russia over the United States and Europe, even in the face of what they've been doing in Ukraine.
  14. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Maybe; but I doubt it.
  15. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    To be fair, he's not wrong; though not entirely for the reasons he thinks. Not that it matters at this point; because regardless of the reasons, the eternal conflict with Russia has resumed, and isn't going to stop any time soon.
  16. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Fair enough. It's just something I worry about the establishment attempting; using the conflict with Russia to get away with all manner of bullhonky, as they did during the Cold War.
  17. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Okay; so then do we get to scrutinize and criticize Ukraine again when the conflict is over, or is that just never going to be allowed so long as Russia exists? I mean, I get it; there are no biolabs in Ukraine, fine. But what if they decide to put some there later on; are you going to accuse...
  18. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    While I appreciate and respect what Musk and Project Veritas have done, all they've really managed to accomplish is inform people of some of the things that have been going on behind closed doors; which hasn't actually resulted in anyone being held accountable yet, let alone prevented from doing...
  19. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Let answer that question, with another question then; do you expect Biden/his handlers to be able to somehow not make things worse? Because they're the ones who are going to be making the decisions when this is all going down; not you. Then maybe you should move to North Korea; see what it's...
  20. Terthna

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    In North Korean and East Germany.
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