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  1. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    This is accurate, but it is merely a characteristic of the true, underlying issue: We are talking about the French here. Even if there is no excuse to be obstinate and bothersome, they will fabricate an excuse for it. "Ancient Enemy" Germany and "Other Ancient Enemy" Britain (which is also...
  2. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Of course! Behind it all, these long centuries: the winged hussar! That is what @Agent23 has been trying to tell us with those feathers! It all makes sense now! Poland has secretly been orchestrating everything. Illuminati? Actually Poles. World Bank? Run from Warsaw, by Polish bankers...
  3. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Sure, but that's just a running gag now. It's all been fixed with a Wiedergutmachungsschnitzel. Possibly, although I doubt the Dutch version would be very useful. (It could impart some basic skills, but to be really useful, you either need a longer stint than a year, or way more intense...
  4. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    There are nations where they forever hold useless grudges and hate each other over every incident that ever happened. And then there is the Anglo-Dutch way. "Remember that time we screwed you over? And then that time when you screwed us over? Ah, those were the days!"
  5. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Well, you got us back for that one later, didn't you? Repeatedly. Right up to that time where you just didn't give back the Cape Colony and Ceylon because, and I paraphrase, "we'd rather like to keep them, thank you very much".
  6. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Yes, it's quite tragic. Of course, when it comes to the manufacture of military technology, it's a bit of a different story. We don't tend to call attention to that, but it's actually still a rather prominent national industry. Lots of older stuff currently being expended in Ukraine, combined...
  7. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Yeah, provincial elections are coming up in the Netherlands, too. These things are related.
  8. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    To my knowledge, it is -- if it indeed did, because I wouldn't know about that one -- since the Dutch government has said no such thing. One Dutch politician said it. Last week, a Dutch politician also said that we should outlaw petting zoos. Just to give you a frame of reference when it comes...
  9. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Yeah, its definitely bullshit. Source: me actually being Dutch. In reality, there's one politician (the leader of the Christian Democrats) who proposed "bringing back the draft" in the most milquetoast way possible, with like three dozen opt-outs and the possibility of serving it via community...
  10. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    There are some hold-outs. Like five guys with a tractor and protest banner standing on a highway overpass for a few hours. Some upside-down flags are still around, but most are gone. People used to attach the farmer's kerchief to their car as a sign of supporting the farmers. The ones that you...
  11. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Things fade quickly here. Like the fishermen's protests, or the farmers' protests, or the anger about gas field's problems in Groningen, or the subsidies scandal, or the COVID-19 government lies scandal (where Rutte himself "had sadly lost his old phone with the supposedly incriminating texts on...
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    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    I'm from here, so it's not like I missed it. I can assure you: it doesn't live in the public consciousness anymore. Not even a little. It got some news coverage over the legal proceedings, but nothing else. The anniversary of the Bijlmerramp (three decades ago!) got way, way more attention. And...
  13. Skallagrim

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    To be quite honest, though, in the case of the Netherlands (pushing strongly for this), it's mostly motivated by the fact that PM Rutte wants to be seen as the "most reliable -- and loyal -- head of government in Europe", because he's not going to be PM forever, and he wants to be rewarded with...
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