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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    That makes the argument somewhat stronger, true, but it still means that success is by no means guaranteed. SCOTUS is very, very strict on original jurisdiction cases, except for the one-man minority of Clarence Thomas who has previously declared that he believes that SCOTUS is constitutionally...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    The Texas suit offers their argument for standing; that does not mean SCOTUS will accept their logic, especially since Delaware used pretty much the exact same argument in 1966 when it tried to seek SCOTUS intervention against other states adopting "winner takes all" electoral voting, and SCOTUS...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Yes and no. The Supreme Court is the court of original jurisdiction in disputes between state governments themselves, but this does not mean that SCOTUS will automatically accept and rule on every case so submitted. The Court has the authority to decline jurisdiction and thereby quash any such...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Under the established precedents, the federal government might have a viable case for standing (even that is not guaranteed); other state governments do not, regardless of whether it was legislative action or executive action within the defendant state. States do not answer to each other under...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    However, my point was simply that Zachowon's claim that a nullified election would automatically mean that "Trump would get a free four years" is completely incorrect. What the Constitution specifies is an immediate House vote if the certified votes presented to the House are not "a majority of...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Uh, no. One comment was about the United States Congress voting to decide who becomes President as defined in the Constitution, the other comment was about *state legislatures* having the authority to override the election results from their states. Two completely different levels of...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    I was responding to a different comment you made, not the comment on what you thought I said.
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    As I think I mentioned earlier in thread, in the very earliest days several of the states had electors directly appointed by the state legislature with no input by the general public; but those days are long past. What it comes down to in the modern day is that the state legislature has the...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    The Constitution specifies that for voting to appoint the President in the absence of a President-Elect, each state gets only one vote.
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    The application for injunctive relief also explicitly included a petition for certiorari and a petition that SCOTUS rule on the merits of the case at hand. Edit: My bad, I mistook part of respondent's brief for the SCOTUS decision. Nonetheless, the petition included all of the above, and SCOTUS...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Anderson v Celebrezze was under completely different circumstances, however, and the line you quote was establishing that there was *federal* jurisdiction over the matter, not *interstate standing*. There are no precedents for a state challenging the sovereign actions of another state with...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    State courts don't have the authority to grant the relief being petitioned for in the first place. A lot of the demands being shut down are simply that, not any ruling on the merits, up *or* down. Likewise, a lot of the things being lauded as wins for Trump are really only routine preliminary...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    The majority of the population on both sides of the political divide still can't be bothered to get up and vote, the idea that they'd go to war is laughable.
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    I agreed with you when you dismissed proofreading errors as pointless nickpicking given the rushed nature of the suit, but sourcing errors are much more substantiative than that. I don't think "official/unofficial" is a useful scorekeeping metric here; I'm pretty sure we'd all count...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Elections are under state purview, but the Constitution explicitly grants Congress the authority to pass regulations over how states carry out those elections. That authority has only rarely been used, but in my opinion, it's rather overdue to lay down consistent election rules on a nationwide...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    If you don't follow it either, then how exactly am I (supposedly) arguing in bad faith for not having that information? And since, again, it's *not even an official statement by a person officially involved in the matter*, I don't think it should be taken as absolute evidence anyway.
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Flynn isn't an official statement in the first place, and it's hardly dishonest of me to leave out information I wasn't aware of. I don't follow his Twitter.
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    You are entirely correct in pointing out that yes, an actual attorney would know that and surely has an actual plaintiff. However, it is legitimate to wonder who said actual plaintiff might be, since it is explicitly neither the Trump Administration, nor Mr. Donald J. Trump as a private...
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    I'm "peddling" exactly what the White House itself officially announced on the record. How the fuck is that "gaslighting"?
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    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Do you have a longer statement from Guliani and Ellis? I haven't seen anything about "pursuing different avenues of redress", simply disavowing her previous closeness by clarifying on the record that she is *neither* part of the official team *nor* privately representing Mr. Trump in parallel...
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