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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    The fundamental problem with such deals, which is why they were terrible and Trump terminated them, is that it is very hard to the other side to verify if Iran is actually keeping their part of the deal (Iran was clear it will not enable any real way to fix that which should be considered enough...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Nah, it was always shady political lobbying. What would be the point of giving Iran favors for a promise of not developing nukes... when you know they already developed them and have zero intention of giving them up? It would be even more ridiculous than giving them those favors for a promise...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Throwing away the legal deniability of harassing ships under flags of convenience, Iranians now screw with a ship officially under the flag of a NATO and EU country.
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    Again, a lot of people doesn't care. See, so there is a way. Because i agree with them. That's just pure propaganda, we had a fair share of socialists even then. No one really knows how many were genuine, but they existed still. Yup, they all are, so are other Arabs, Turks, Iranians etc...
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    "The land" in question spanning from Egypt to Iran. Obviously the difference is in national identity, culture and religion (which functionally is part of culture). So it is with many peoples in the world. Slavs are having a notable war now, Germanics had plenty, so did Celtic nations and so on...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Said sects have more members than there are people who agree with you. Why should i care about your opinion over theirs? North Korea's economy was about as dead as one could be, yet it's still there. Better than yours lol. Jews before 1950, just like many others, may have had delusions about...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Even literal shit would be bad at this amount. But it's apparently mostly ammonium phosphate sulfate.
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Where are the greens protesting this? I'm pretty damn sure 30 kilotons of fertilizer dissolving in a small sea will have environmental effects.
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Well as a Catholic he on the other hand should care what Vatican says. I also don't think major Orthodox churches write Evangelicals out of Christianity either. Either way, it's ridiculous that anyone cares what a Shia Muslim theocracy says about who's a real Christian.
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Who are you to decide they aren't? Even Vatican doesn't denounce them as not Christians.
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Both Iran and you are the opposite of people who have any right to decide what constitutes common sense. Again, you didn't address the point. Soviet Union fell, despite not being a democracy, yet China, NK and Cuba stand. Whatever, i reject your conspiracy theories and substitute my own...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    If you wanted to write satire on this, it would be indistinguishable from news.
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    And of course to the denial of some, all the "current things" are combining...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    In theory, sure. In practice, if the US admin was willing to ruin Iranian assets with B-2 runs willy nilly until they stop doing funny business, we would be seeing a lot more B-2 runs.
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Force splitting between shielding more routes than Red Sea. It's enough of an issue to get enough warships from western countries to take care of Red Sea, Aden, Persian Gulf, that region alone, and that's a relatively small area compared to the oceanic routes this may potentially threaten...
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    The problem is we don't know what they are planning to do with it. If it's merely having the base and breaking international treaties with its existence, it may be a waste of money (unless it's in cooperation with some other country Iran is friends with that wants a precedent or separate partner...
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    It will cost a lot of money, but only in the sense of a common person, not a lot-lot in the budget of a wannabe regional superpower with oil revenues based budget that's already backing several major paramilitary groups and doesn't care about its population living in third world squalor if...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    Not possibly. If they want to build a naval base, it's about as direct of a challenge to the treaty as there can be. https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/why-has-iran-claimed-antarctica-should-the-world-worry-13735262.html Any single major western surface warship or nuclear submarine is capable...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    https://maritime-executive.com/article/report-u-s-carried-out-covert-cyberattack-on-iranian-spy-ship It's a start...
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    Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread

    If Iran is going to judge who is normal Christian and who isn't and will bomb the latter i will spit on them. If you want to play Islamist's stupid games and be their good infidel who pays jizya go do it away from us. So what? Just because propaganda alone won't knock down commie governments...
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