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  1. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    ...At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if that's where Britain's future pivots. Even someone who was obviously a lunatic doing that, rather than just for symbolic reasons, might be able to overthrow the British government if he's actually willing to address the problems the gov't is actively...
  2. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    Okay, so the crux of your argument then, is that you don't think that bad decisions people should make should be allowed to affect others?
  3. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    Not really. Theological, philosophical, and moral failure of society is what brings dystopia.
  4. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    So your argument is basically "It's too hard to resist evil, so people don't have any responsibility to do so"?
  5. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    There is no perfect solution to this. It's the nature of living in a fallen world. An at least decent strategy for right now, is to move to/concentrate in states and cities that are more conservative.
  6. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    One does not need to be even above-average to develop the discernment to know a political bad actor when they see them. In 1930's Germany, it wasn't even subtle. The fascists were blaming 'the jews' for things which clearly were not their fault, pandering to people's egos by calling them the...
  7. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    First off, it is very hard to have done all that you could. To even begin to fully exert yourself is more than most do. Second off, if you actually have? Then you are a wiser and more mature man than I, and there's little advice I can give you. Third off, that advice that I can give you, is to...
  8. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    The German people elected the Weimar governments, and they ultimately elected the National Socialist Worker's Party. Those are the stages where it would have been easy and low-cost to stop the building evil. As they repeatedly failed to do so, the price became higher and higher. There were...
  9. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    And here you are again, blaming God for the evils mankind commits. And you still have not even attempted to explain away how those who were, who could, who had clear opportunities, refused to stop these evils when they did not have the massive costs that stopping them involved later. Europe is...
  10. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    ...Please clarify what you mean?
  11. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    Your entire argument here seems to sum to: 'People let themselves be duped, then refused to resist evil when they saw the cost would be too high. This is God's fault.' Am I reading it wrong?
  12. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    "And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for...
  13. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    No, it doesn't, and you straw-manning me does little to convince anyone of anything. Yes, who wanted nothing to do with it, and then actively enabled World War II. We know for a fact that it was the repeated cowardice and refusal of Allied leaders to act against Hitler that solidified his...
  14. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    No, it is not a disproof of 'omnibenevolence.' Half of the Old Testament is repeated demonstrations of how if people are determined to go their own way in sin, God will let them go down into destruction. If you had any familiarity at all with the meta-narrative of the Judeo-Christian worldview...
  15. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    A war started by an atheist, most bloodily fought by atheists, and then led into the Cold War, because a group of atheists established the Iron Curtain across eastern Europe... Yes, this is clearly what killed Christianity in Europe. Not, say, the fact that the elites of society had already...
  16. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    And WW1+WWII are rapidly fading from living memory. There's the advantage of actually being filmed and photographed extensively, but that only goes so far, especially as our cultures become more and more media saturated. As the cultural trauma of those wars fades, so will their effect on...
  17. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    And 300 years ago, something like 99% of 'westerners' were at least ostensibly Christian. How does 'lots of people believe this now' in any way mean that there will be a lot less that do so in the future? Atheism is not unique to the modern era, after all.
  18. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    Why not? What is supposed to make atheism and agnosticism any more resistant to being pushed out of cultural primacy than any other ideology?
  19. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    .............. They are part of the current governmental system. What did you mean by 'current system'?
  20. LordsFire

    Dystopian Europe

    City-run utilities are still delivering water and taking away sewage. That's probably the single most important one. It's not the most efficient, but the post office still works. The DMV is still testing people and giving driver's licenses. Notably in compared to outright failed states, you...
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