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  1. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    Do you have any, you know, proof that large centralized governments aren't prone to corruption and abuse of power?
  2. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    Are you that eager for mass bloodshed?
  3. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    Who do you think are going to be resorting to lynch mobs first and most frequently?
  4. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    Civil Asset Forfeiture should indeed be thrown out wholesale. It's been essentially nothing but a stack of perverse incentives.
  5. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    As Morphic Tide said, you're just going to end right back at the start of Qualified Immunity. It needs to be clearly delineated with what it does and does not cover laid out, but getting rid of it basically makes any cop that doesn't have the protection of the ruling class subject to having...
  6. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    I think Doom and Morphic Tide are both right. Qualified Immunity is essential to having a functional police force in the modern litigious society. If a cop is going to have his life ruined for daring to stop someone for speeding, he's not going to risk being a cop for long. At the same time...
  7. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    That's partly on the owner for not safing the gun when he holstered it. Partly.
  8. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    I'm trying to figure out what it is you're even trying to say. 'Fictional settings are different than the real world'? Sure, you can treat a game environment as though it were the real world for moral purposes. That isn't meaningfully useful to trying to understanding what is and is not...
  9. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    This is a very significant statement. Please elaborate.
  10. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    My uncle recently retired as a Minnesota State Trooper. According to him, the Minneapolis PD has a looong reputation as being rough during arrests. Who's been running the twin cities for the last 50+ years? Democrats. Why do these people keep voting for the politicians that cause so many of...
  11. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    Sheriffs are just as capable of being corrupt, the advantage is that they're usually easier to hold to account.
  12. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    While I agree that it is highly unlikely the circumstances justified pepper spray, you're over-simplifying. When someone goes completely nuts, even a half-grown child, you would be shocked by the amount of force they can throw around. People are entirely capable of injuring themselves, and...
  13. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    She was clearly throwing a wild tantrum; that doesn't justify pepper spray. If you have a 9-year-old girl in cuffs, you should have no difficulty manhandling her into whatever it is you are legally permitted/obligated to do with her. If her temper tantrum becomes so obnoxious that you really...
  14. LordsFire

    Protecting And Serving: Cop (mis)behavior and consequences general discussion

    Collectivism is dumb no matter which way it is pointed. We need police. They should be held accountable. Both of these statements are true.
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