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  1. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    So, your response to my last argument then?
  2. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    And purchasing my favorite foods instead of ones I am indifferent to or dislike makes gluttony more tempting. Spending time with people I find it hard to get along with tempts me more towards wrath. Being around attractive women brings more temptation towards lust. Living in the first world...
  3. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    You have in no way demonstrated that it is an inherently immoral practice, just that you personally find it to be extremely distasteful.
  4. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    At this point, what you're using various terms for is pretty opaque to me. I'm not sure I want to keep trying to debate the issue with you when it's not clear what position you're taking.
  5. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    Yeah, if you want to try to claim I'm not conservative, find a position I actually support. Because the whole of your argument for dismissing the upsides to allowing systems with usury, was that the gains were 'purely material.' I wasn't changing the topic at all. I was using the same...
  6. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    Defeating Polio and Malaria as endemic diseases was purely material. Being able to save lives through trauma medicine is purely material. Being able to talk to a loved one, live, on the far side of the world, with both audio and video, is purely material. The invention of anesthetic to be...
  7. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    Kindly don't strawman my position. I in no way pretended that money or usury cannot also be dangerous. I simply pointed out that Alathon was not demonstrating an understanding of the positives to both. And yes, I am quite well aware of how much corruption has worked through our institutions. I...
  8. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    You are showing that you clearly do not understand how investments and many (though not all) forms of loans work. Do you like railroads? Then you'd better be willing to let people charge usury on money they give to other people. Because it's investments and loans that allowed for the creation...
  9. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    King Arts is hardly 'right wing.' I don't know if I've seen him argue for a single conservative or right wing position, but given I don't keep highly detailed mental records of his positions, it's possible I'm forgetting a thing or two.
  10. LordsFire

    The Love of Money & Problems It Causes

    When you post this: You are failing to in any way specify who you mean, so it is logical for Christians on this thread to conclude you are talking about all of them, because you make no mention of 'non-zealot' Christians. So, are you strawmanning Christians, or are you just really bad at...
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