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  1. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    Here, let me Wikipedia that for you... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Pakistan_Army#Radars
  2. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    Just gonna go ahead and park that here. While the models the Chinese keep for themselves are probably better than their export hardware... ...US & allied gear is also definitely better than what Iran is using.
  3. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    Eh, that's taking it too far. I wouldn't be surprised if a few in-launcher detonations caused a few ships to damage or sink themselves, but if it was that bad, there'd already be a ton of incidents like this. More realistically, their ability to take hits will be seriously compromised by what...
  4. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    Yes, your ability to pay attention to sources that conform to your delusions, and only said sources, is quite well known. Have you seen the pessimists' predictions that were made before Desert Storm in 1991? Have you seen the similar predictions about Afghanistan? About the second Iraq War...
  5. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    And then the Yeerks reveal their master plan, through superior alien technology and political espionage, they conquer the human race!
  6. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    The most important factor for the F-35 in air-to-air, is its stealthed radar profile. Not zero-detection, but very much into 'I can fire missiles before you can,' and 'older crappier radar is practically useless against me.' The majority of the Chinese air fleet is crappy knockoffs of older...
  7. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    Yes, the same cycle of teething issues that basically every plane has. You saw similar talk about the F-teens, and they beat the crap out of everything they flew against. Which is a lot more than can be said of commie aircraft.
  8. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    The only thing that can compete with the F-35 right now, is the F-22. They have the highest combat capability of any fighter flying. The Chinese J-20 is, at least in theory, also a generation 5 fighter, but it's been plagued with issues, and given they've no actual combat experience, it's not...
  9. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    I mean, punching holes in the arguments you're putting forward is basically like shooting fish in a barrel at this point, but still, sometimes that's fun. https://archive.is/wtCa2 The US has some corruption problems in its military too, but those don't extend to fueling its rockets with...
  10. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    Yes, because 'harmless babies' sling cruise missiles, have Generation 4 and 5 combat aircraft, etc etc. Because I talk about specifically how certain threats need to be worked around when they come from 'harmless babies.' Because 'we don't know how dangerous this is or is not' is something you...
  11. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    I said 'I do not believe X.' You said 'You believe X.' That's as clear cut as it gets.
  12. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    No. When I explicitly clarify my position 'X that you said is not my position, here is my position,' and you say 'So you're saying X is your position,' you do not get to say this is 'minorly rude' or 'pretty mild.' This is you calling me a liar to my internet face, and being condescending...
  13. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    So yeah. You aren't even engaging in good faith; you're here to mock, deride, and strawman, not have a reasoned discussion. You're wasting my time and energy. I am incredibly disappointed; I thought you were one of the people on this forum who was above this kind of petty crap. It's ironic...
  14. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    You are arguing against a self-created straw man of me. I did not try to claim that the Vietnam war was a victory, yet you're acting like I'm playing silly games with what victory and loss mean. Bluntly put, I am getting incredibly sick of all the silly buggers you are playing with this...
  15. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    We are not talking about a ground war. If the USA inflicts 10:1, or even 3:1 losses on the Chinese air force, they will not have anything left to fight with. The US Air Force alone substantially outnumbers the PLAAF, and when you fold in the USN air corps, it gets even more lopsided. Aside...
  16. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    This is getting really, really tiring. If you're going to make an argument like this, then carry it through to the next stage to see if it really supports your position. Moving forward to the Vietnam war, and using Wikipedia to be consistent with you using it as a source (and because it's...
  17. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    Okay, seriously, are you not reading my posts? I have said repeatedly throughout them that the one thing that could ruin the US military fighting against China, was incompetent political meddling. I'm not some fantasizer that is unaware that this can be a real problem, I know just how much of a...
  18. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    This whole post reveals a massive swath of historical ignorance, but I'm going to focus on just this one element, to really drive the point home. 1. The US has never militarily lost to a communist nation. We have, in fact, utterly crushed them militarily every time we fought them on the field...
  19. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    I'm assuming a high degree of competence and professionalism from the US military... ...based on the fact that it has a track record of professionalism and being the most competent military in the world. It's declined somewhat due to leftist influence, but it's still one of the best in the...
  20. LordsFire

    Future War with (Red) China Hypotheticals/Theorycrafting

    And you're running into all kind of flawed assumptions right out of the gate here. First off, in order to win, the US does not need to invade China, or even control their coast. We just need to get control of the straits of Malacca, and the lower reaches of the South China Sea. Second off, you...
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