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  1. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    The wow just wowing is my favorite part in this. Meanwhile:
  2. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Thing you need to realize here is Marduk is a Chicken Hawk who wants Americans to do the fighting and dying that he and his country are too cowardly to do themselves.
  3. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    By the way, how are Pro-Ukraine Right Wingers holding up now that both Trump and DeSantis have come out against continuing to support Ukraine?
  4. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Is that why BASF is moving most of their operations to China?
  5. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Gotta save face somehow, given Russia just captured a $19 million dollar drone with advanced technologies onboard it with absolutely no response by the United States to this development. It's made further hilarious given the Pentagon objected to supplying Reapers to Ukraine because they didn't...
  6. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    They made this decision years ago, unless of course the people taking this tact seriously believe the Russians somehow have time travel capabilities: You notice they didn't give you an article and acted very passive aggressive about it when questioned? That's because it's fake; they were...
  7. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    I'm not sure how Lech could be referring to events after his death?
  8. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Given I cited his statements verbatim, I don't think you understand what axe grinding is, unfortunately. Both, given the gesture came in the context of a big effort, as you phrase it. Likewise, it also notes this: In Katyn, Putin placed the crime within the context of “Stalinist repressions”...
  9. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Because it was a big effort, as you note they only started holding these joint bilateral deals when the reconciliation started? Likewise, we know from his remarks your President at the time was going to say it was time to put Katyn behind them and begin moving forward with Russian relations...
  10. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    If you would read the articles I cite, you would know I already did: Nevertheless, Kaczyński had intended to respond to Putin’s gesture. The text of the speech that he was preparing to deliver says: “Let us finally heal the wound of Katyn. We have already started out on this road. We Poles...
  11. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    No, because Biden didn't go to Russia for a bilateral summit in which his speech was to say they forgave Russia and were ready to move on their relations. The U.S. were not deepening their ties with Russia either. Okay? And Poland went along with it.
  12. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    You've literally demonstrated they were doing joint meetings together, as have I. By what metrics would you like to see? The joint German-Polish-Russian group that allowed Kalingrad residents to enter the EU visa free? The deepening trade relations at the time? Etc.
  13. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Before or after the reconciliation attempt, yes, hence why in the second part of the post I linked to an article on the reconciliation debates in Polish society at the time that lasted for years. As I've said before multiple times, for someone that continues to harp on that I don't matter or...
  14. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Notice the date is 2007, i.e. when the reconciliation effort started.
  15. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    You don't, if you're actually Anti-Putin/Russian. Weird they never had to commemorate Katyn at the site of Katyn before or since. Here's one example from the time.
  16. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    You can commemorate Katyn without doing it jointly with Putin in an official ceremony that was wildly billed as being a symbol of reconciliation and friendship between Poland and Russia.
  17. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    So why did the President go to Russia then? He was from PiS. So why is PiS still in the European Union and accepting European Union funds then, eh? It wasn't part of the Sejm; almost as many as failed to show up as actually voted for it. Likewise, you seem to have forgot your initial...
  18. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    To cut through the entire post and get to the heart of the matter: Kaczyński was so Anti Russian that he died in Smolensk going to an event with the Russian government to jointly commemorate Katyn.
  19. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    Except that's not what you originally said: The party ruling at that time was PiS, not Tusk, as you yourself noted by saying here Tusk was in opposition and thus not President. Is that why almost 50% of the Sejm didn't vote on the resolution declaring Russia a state sponsor of terror?
  20. History Learner

    Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

    This is really funny given the President at the time was both a member of PiS and the literal twin brother of the current leader of PiS. Given your statements above, it seems the same Russian supporters are still in power, no?
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