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  1. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    Of course it could and it could very easily. You just had to not take it away. And they received no right because it was to the detriment of the private good of parliament and the king. They got no representation because it was to the detriment of that as well. Total nonsense. The French had...
  2. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    Sure. What is the betterment in denying representation or redress or listening to what the people in question want? And no, keeping troops in America has nothing to do with territory being taken. Americans and their militia were orders of magnitude more powerful than anyone else continent side...
  3. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    @The Name of Love I get it. You reject enlightenment philosophy, America is the greatest success and embrace of enlightenment philosophy. You therefore don’t want to say the war is justified, but come on man. The Catholic teachings here are pretty clear and it’s obvious who was in the right.
  4. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    How. How is it better to lose the way of life you cultivated and fought for basically on your own for roughly two hundred years? And escalated when Britain assisted Prussia in annexing Saxon territory. If it had remained a purely colonial conflict, Britain wouldn’t have occurred the debt it...
  5. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    Is ending benign neglect for the betterment of the people or for the private benefit of the rulers? The master does not get to do whatever the hell he wants. It has to be for the betterment of the people over his own private good. When it isn’t you are justified in sedition. It was happening on...
  6. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    Which is why I attached the article on sedition. And that is nonsense. It’s still a war of two distinct political entities at that point. That’s such a total cop out to ignore just war. A war is a war. Please by all means, show it as different. Is it in the common good to impose all the...
  7. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    What Aquinas had to say on sedition @The Name of Love .Think that describes Britain and King George III pretty accurately. Here is some more reading for you on Just War specifically from probably the greatest work of Catholic Theology. www.newadvent.org/summa/3040.htm I think the best thing...
  8. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    Well to end violence, but I guess apparently if you fire one bullet you are now justified in total war. That's, again, fucking retarded. The Americans were absolutely different because they hadn't been represented by parliament for the bulk of their history. They were left as autonomous, and...
  9. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    They did have the mercantilist policy prior to rebellion. You are fundamentally not represented by Parliament if the system allows for 100% of the vote to come from the mainland and zero to come from the colony. That just does not make for representation. Parliamentary seats are assigned to...
  10. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    That’s not the point. Unless you argument is that you can never justifiably rebel ever it isn’t relevant what the English constitution says. No taxation without representation isn’t a legalese argument, it’s an argument about how citizens should be treated. What you are missing here is that...
  11. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    total lack of political representation is a pretty just complaint. The war was also started by the British pushing to take the Ohio territory. The colonists did not benefit the way that the rest of Britain did and took the brunt of the hardships with nothing in return. It’s not a benefit to the...
  12. FriedCFour

    History The Morality of the American Revolution

    Fought and bled for a war Britain started in the colonies. Received absolutely nothing from said war. Forbidden from taking advantage of the territory won in said war. Had taxes imposed on them to pay for the war that had no benefit to the colonists. Had their economies restricted and forced to...
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